What Would You Think If The Secret Service Just Happened To Shred All Their Notes From 11/22/63?

[TrollBuster9090]

What would you think if the Secret Service just happened to shred and burn all of their notes, photographs, and tape recordings from November 22nd, 1963, as part of a 'routine document purge' to save space in the filing cabinets? "Gosh, it just never occurred to us that somebody might want to listen to the tapes of the communications between agents on the day JFK was assassinated. If you really wanted that stuff, you should have said so earlier."

Well, the 1/6 insurrection is the most significant Secret Service event since the JFK assassination, and I'm having a really hard time believing they all just happened to purge their phones, because they didn't realize they were important.

This is HUGE.

[madinmaryland]

1. There is only ONE reason why they would purge their phones...

We all know why.

[blm]

2. What would Repubs say if SS purged comms of day Reagan was shot?

[electric_blue68]

7. As I started to read the OP that was what came to mind.

[BumRushDaShow]

26. Or Gerald Ford

and Squeaky Fromme.

[electric_blue68]

27. Oh, I forgot about that

[Hekate]

3. As Malcolm Nance says: Coincidences take a lot of planning

Our intelligence services need a scouring-out

[ancianita]

13. +100

[Diraven]

4. Only if someone can find them

Unless someone can find some of the missing stuff and it's incriminating then this is still a huge nothing.

[Chainfire]

5. Well, you would certainly think that the SS is capable of getting rid of incriminating evidence

in such a way that it can not be retrieved...

It is so blatantly crooked that it is shocking. Biden needs to do some house cleaning, starting at the top and going to the bottom. But, then again, there is always the danger of what may have happened to Kennedy after he threatened to "Splinter the CIA into a Thousand Pieces and Scatter It to the Winds." Of course, I know that that was just coincidence...

[electric_blue68]

11. I'm not 100% re The Warren Commission. But I'm glad I didn't go down the whole...

rabbit hole. Lingered near the entrance watching, and listening to various conspiracy theorists go by. I was 10 when it happened, 7 when JFK was elected. It would be later on that I'd understand more of what we lost, and it became more tragic other than you just don't do that sort of horrific thing!

Otoh the fact that there were several more bullets found in the Ambassador Hotel's Kitchen pantry, and hallway walls than were in Sirhan's gun; now that gets me.

Probably because I was now 15, had started to follow politics when i was 12-13. My dad dragged me around w him putting local candidate races flyers under our neighbors doors, 😄 around when I 12, or 13. I happen to see then Rep (future Mayor) John V Lindsey get out of a car right by our local park when first ran in ? '65. There was no one around. I became Anti - Vietnam War sometime in '67. Wasn't allowed to go to the Big March in DC, but went to our local NYC ones.

I listened to JFK's advisors etc on a local late night radio show who were often on in later '67. They talked about JFK, and Robert. RFK became my candidate when announced.

Back to JFK. Not sure I heard the "splinter the CIA..." at the time. I know it heard later because it sounds familiar.
The speech that (again) I heard/read later that perked my ears up was the one his gave at American University.

[DENVERPOPS]

14. Seems to me

JFK was taken out because he was going to shut down the Vietnam war which would have greatly distressed the military industrial complex Corporations and their creation of a phony war to make money.

RFK was taken out because he had already broken up U.S. Steel, and was planning on taking out other monopolies. The massive Corporations wouldn't have liked that.......

The Republicans have been hell bent ever since on establishing a Corporate Fascist Tyranny, and they almost succeeded in 2020.

In 2022 they are going all out, by hook or crook, using any and all tactics, to throw out Democracy and install this new authoritarian government, run by the corporations.

[Lonestarblue]

15. JFK and RFK both were also not on the side of white supremacy.

That may have been enough to trigger the events that led to their deaths and that of MLK. We will likely never know the real story, though I do not believe we know all the facts. The sad thing is that someone did know the facts but has already taken them to the grave with him or her or will do so soon. I doubt that we mere mortals know the extent of how our government and our media are manipulated.

[electric_blue68]

22. I am Sure that Aspect of Both Men angered certain people greatly.

The was a one time dramatic show that showed RFK while AG meeting up with some of the leading Black Activists of the day. They confronted him about his brother The President about not doing enough about Civil Rights.

Sigh, you could definitely be right that certain knowledge has been, or might soon be taken to the grave.

To have lived while not prefect but these extriodinary men (in this case) were alive and doing good things for our country and the world (RFK's speech to South African students) is/was a blessing while enduring the horrific ends brought to them.

And Dr King, too.
The footage of RFK telling a mostly African-American crowd in ? Indianapolis that evening of MLK's assassination. Intense.

[DENVERPOPS]

24. Jackie Onassis

wrote her memoirs, but insisted they couldn't be released until both her children were dead..........

I can only think of one reason she would do that.....for their safety when she told who did it.......

I figure Onassis married her for her own protection. His Security people were far more competent and loyal than the Secret Service or any other U.S. Agency......

[electric_blue68]

32. Wow. I never knew that!

[electric_blue68]

21. Maybe something to do with the monopolies, but I think there were other reasons too.

Like he was the last well known politcian who could bring both the white working class, and many African-Americans together at that time.

He had true empathy that he started to hide from his father because his father hated his compassion and became a tough guy. After JFK's assassination it began to reemerge. Why he could and listen to all the various groups of different people.

That scared certain people, too.

[Genki Hikari]

29. You seem to be mixing up the JFK and RFK shootings

JFK was shot in Dallas, in the open as he was going past Dealey Plaza. There was no Ambassador Hotel. That was RFK, in Los Angeles.

[electric_blue68]

30. Maybe my Writing very, Very Late at Night sounds Mixed Up bc I was Tired. (I'll check what I wrote)

But I KNOW Exactly ...where each of them was assassinated. I would Never mix those up!

(Ok, I rechecked)

In my post I pivoted from JFK: I not totally believing the WC, but not going all the way down the rabbit hole re conspiracy theories; to RFK, and my different feeling of way more uneasiness about Sirhan being the only shooter because they found more bullets in the walls than Sirhan had in his gun.

That's concrete evidence of something off!

[Boomerproud]

6. They don't seem to care that their reputation is in tatters.

How they get away with truly criminal behavior is a total mystery to me. There is obviously no oversight whatsoever. President Joe Biden yes you, have to answer some very tough questions.

[electric_blue68]

8. I'd guess some, maybe most still do have honor. But they may have to be more quiet after...

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4 years of drumphf!

[Evolve Dammit]

9. Big time COVER-UP. They were privy to 1/6 planning and forgot their little oaths they swore. n/t

[NBachers]

10. The SS is an entity unto themselves; beyond accountability. Read "Zero Fail- The Rise and Fall of

the Secret Service" by Carol Leoning. She details attempts to reform or shake up the Secret Service, and how they stymie any attempt at reshaping the organization. I believe the shorthand SS for Secret Service is appropriate.

[electric_blue68]

23. Thanks for the reminder - on my "to read" list

[raccoon]

25. Do you mean, beacause it brings to mind "Schutzstaffel"?

That’s what I keep thinking of.

[NBachers]

28. Yes, that's what I keep thinking of too.

[jaxexpat]

12. The SS presumes they are the executive branch.

Perhaps they're not entirely wrong. Their role has evolved into that of ambassadors for micro-control of presidents who step too far out of line. My question is, who do these guys take direction from? I'm guessing they're not elected in the typical way.

[KPN]

16. That is an excellent way to pose the question of

what was the Secret Service thinking when they wiped cell phone records? Why would they delete that data?

[LT Barclay]

17. Or a former fighter pilot, CIA agent who "can't remember" where he was that day?

[Heather MC]

18. Of course they're lying. All they have to have is plausible deniability to stay out of trouble

Because our government wasn't designed to put white men of authority in prison, and Make them Slaves as per the 13th Amendment
So every single one of those agents will not have to suffer any consequences whatsoever.

And to be perfectly honest they probably figured their crime was so big there's no way the United States government can put all of them in prison.

Unless of course some really smart president of the United States emptied the fed prisons of simple marijuana violators. I bet you that would open up a lot of beds for the feds lol

[barbtries]

19. heads should have already rolled

over this. it was sabotage, obstruction of justice, a crime.

[Ligyron]

20. Obviously they're less worried about the blowback than what's in them.

I’m sure it’s some horrifically incriminating stuff.

[Joinfortmill]

31. Yup