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Nevilledog

(51,112 posts)
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 12:15 AM Oct 2022

This is Not a Drill





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🧵1. A post on FB…

“I am 14 and I’m struggling in algebra class. When I ask for help, the male teacher says, ‘I’m not surprised girls aren’t that good at algebra’.

I am 18 and go to my first fraternity party with girlfriends…

2. … we don’t ever say it out loud but it’s understood that we need to stick together at these parties and not get separated, for our own safety.

I’m 20 and I’m working as a hostess at the Red Lion Inn in San Jose, near the airport. …

3. Men in suits come in to eat after their meetings during the day and I see them takeoff their wedding rings before heading into the bar next to the restaurant. Every girl who works there learns quickly not to bend too far over because of the short skirts of our uniforms.

4. I’m 22 and it’s my first day on a new job. My male supervisor gets me into a room alone and I think he’s going to tell me about the job but instead he tells me about how much he likes sex and how he needs to have it every day. I get up and walk out of the room…

5. … and avoid him after that, but I don’t tell anyone because I’m one of the only women there and I don’t know what to do.

Im 24 and I’m watching Anita Hill on TV, testifying about a man who wants to be on the Supreme Court.

6. I don’t understand everything I’m watching but I understand that she’s a black woman facing down a panel of white men and she is going to lose because, at 24, I do understand who has power and who does not.

7. I’m any age in my 20s and I’m walking on the street, in a park, in a city, in a suburb, anywhere. Men tell me to smile, to wait a minute, to slow down what’s my hurry, can I ask you a question, can I stand too close to you, can I demand your space,…

8. …your time, your attention, hey where you going bitch?

I’m 25. I’m buying my first car and the salesman offers a price I know is way too high. I bring my stepdad to the showroom and the same car is now $3000 less. I smile and buy the car but inside I’m seething.

9. I am any age in my 30s and I think about where I park, where I go, whether I should get in that elevator that only has one man in it and how I should be sure not to make eye contact with men in the streets. All of this is normal to me and I don’t question any of it.

10. I’m 35. I’m buying my second car and the salesman said we should wait for my husband to get there before talking about the price but would I like to see the makeup mirror? I tell him I’m a lesbian and if he’s waiting for my husband, he’s gonna be waiting a long time…

11. … I leave, because I’m learning.

I’m 40 and a woman, Hillary Clinton, is taking a serious run at the Democratic Presidential Nomination . She’s smart, tough and qualified but she endures endless anger, viciousness and misogyny and she eventually loses in the primary…

12. Male friends tell me it’s probably for the best because there’s just something they don’t like about her, you know?

I’m 49 and a man who said he grabs women by the pussy is elected as the 45th President of the United States. The night of the election, I feel physically ill..

13. … and my 1st conscious thought is, ‘my god, the Supreme Court’. The next morning, I overhear two men laughing and congratulating each other about the election and I feel unsafe in my own country.

I am 51 and another man who stands credibly accused of sexual assault…

14. … has just been confirmed to serve on the Supreme Court. I see women on television sobbing, screaming, protesting, crying out in their anguish and their fear. I am so angry. I think of every woman I know and I am so angry.

15. I am any age, every age. I am a woman. I am a daughter. I am discounted. I am underrepresented. I am underestimated. But I am a voter. Today, that has to be enough”

~Author Unknown
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This is Not a Drill (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2022 OP
This is the story of too many women in America. Shudder. nt TigressDem Oct 2022 #1
I'm a few years younger than this writer but Unwind Your Mind Oct 2022 #24
Not only in Rebl2 Oct 2022 #43
This is the story of EVERY woman Cozmo Oct 2022 #57
.. question everything Oct 2022 #2
Thank you MoonlightHillFarm Oct 2022 #3
... Nevilledog Oct 2022 #4
I'm almost there myself, and I'm demanding to know WHEN DOES THIS END??? calimary Oct 2022 #37
Too true cate94 Oct 2022 #5
K&R betsuni Oct 2022 #6
powerful. well done. -(nt)- stopdiggin Oct 2022 #7
I relate to every single word of this. Sky Jewels Oct 2022 #8
As a gay man, I've had the same experiences as the poster. Meadowoak Oct 2022 #41
... Sky Jewels Oct 2022 #48
Wow, great! Perfect! frogmarch Oct 2022 #9
How WUNNNNNNNNNNNderful! calimary Oct 2022 #38
and it was 1956! frogmarch Oct 2022 #44
Powerful - So Well Said DET Oct 2022 #10
No. Indeed, it's not. Thank you for this post. ancianita Oct 2022 #11
... Nevilledog Oct 2022 #19
Yes! Today it is enough. I mailed my midterm ballot yesterday Deuxcents Oct 2022 #12
Universal peggysue2 Oct 2022 #13
Yes. We've lived it. It is our sister song. It's me. It's you. It's all of us. So well said. nt crickets Oct 2022 #33
I am 72, and I pull into a parking space to eat a sandwich I just bought at the drive-thru. ShazzieB Oct 2022 #14
A friend of mine posted this on Facebook, Ms. Toad Oct 2022 #15
Now the Extreme Court sanctions further terrorism against women and girls. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2022 #16
I am 75 & this brings tears to my eyes. Starting with gutting the Voting Rights Act, this SCOTUS... Hekate Oct 2022 #17
K&R brer cat Oct 2022 #18
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2022 #20
I'm 70 and I know their games. Delmette2.0 Oct 2022 #21
K&R Talitha Oct 2022 #22
Women, This November You Know What To Do Tommymac Oct 2022 #23
that blue wave with the dancer is just gorgeous! yellowdogintexas Oct 2022 #50
And the really sad thing is that millions of women buy into the misogyny. Lonestarblue Oct 2022 #25
I know. Delphinus Oct 2022 #29
Not really. They're groomed into it from childhood. ancianita Oct 2022 #39
"Grooming" sop Oct 2022 #47
Nonsense that today voting is all we can do. Women have never been Hortensis Oct 2022 #26
OOOOOOOhhhh, I LOVE that! "Summon your inner Pelosi"!!! calimary Oct 2022 #40
You're right BonnieJW Oct 2022 #52
Thanks Nevilledog.. Permanut Oct 2022 #27
I'm a 69 year old man Mr.Bill Oct 2022 #28
I am a senior citizen Ruby Zee Oct 2022 #30
I had a horrible math teacher SouthernLiberal Oct 2022 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author SouthernLiberal Oct 2022 #32
Wow MLAA Oct 2022 #34
+1000 llmart Oct 2022 #35
This makes me angry and sad at the same time. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2022 #36
Such a great posting!! As a woman in the tech field i've felt discounted, underrepresented and onetexan Oct 2022 #42
Ugh why did I learn this stuff so late IbogaProject Oct 2022 #45
I was 18, and my college advisor told me to "go home and have babies "!!!- love_katz Oct 2022 #46
I AM A VOTER! WVreaper Oct 2022 #49
I hope many parents are reading this thread FakeNoose Oct 2022 #51
K n R ! Thanks for posting! JoeOtterbein Oct 2022 #53
#14.5: Lost the right to control her own reproductive system NickB79 Oct 2022 #54
Enraged KNR. I hoped that it would get bettter, at least for our younger sisters. niyad Oct 2022 #55
This is too close, and it makes my heart hurt. Thank you for posting it. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #56
Bad men wreck the curve DemocraticPatriot Oct 2022 #58

calimary

(81,299 posts)
37. I'm almost there myself, and I'm demanding to know WHEN DOES THIS END???
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 04:51 PM
Oct 2022

When are we finally OVER this shit?

WHEN does this stop happening?

WHEN?


I can only do so much, as one person. But women are now make up the undeniable majority of the population of the United States of America. If WE bond together and demand action, the 150+ million of us might be able to move the mountain.

The ONE thing that keeps me going is the knowledge (hell, the GUARANTEE!) that what the other side wants more than anything is for somebody like me to get discouraged and give up. And shut up already. And stop bothering them about this "annoying nuisance issue".

Which is why I will NEVER give them that satisfaction. NEVER. NOT EVER.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
9. Wow, great! Perfect!
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 01:20 AM
Oct 2022

I'm lucky because ...I am 13 and after Sunday dinner at home with our invited guests, my mom stands up from the table and starts clearing dishes while giving my sister and me a "Come on, girls" look, and my dad says, "Come join us in a visit, lasses. Later, we men can do the dishes."

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
44. and it was 1956!
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 05:47 PM
Oct 2022

My dad was a champion of women's rights. He was ahead of his time in many ways, and he was kind. I miss him.

Deuxcents

(16,234 posts)
12. Yes! Today it is enough. I mailed my midterm ballot yesterday
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 01:53 AM
Oct 2022

And I expect to make a difference. Really good post..thank you w/ my jaw tight ✊

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
13. Universal
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 02:14 AM
Oct 2022

If you're a woman and if you're honest with yourself, you completely identify with this. Because it's our sister song. We've lived it. We wince, we nod our heads, sometimes we shout and wail. We know it's true. Because it's us, our experience, our lives in 15 stanzas.

And yes, I too am a voter. My choice, my voice, my anger.

The Unknown Author? It's me. It's you. It's all of us.

VOTE!


ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
14. I am 72, and I pull into a parking space to eat a sandwich I just bought at the drive-thru.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 02:30 AM
Oct 2022

I make sure the windows are up and the doors are all locked before I push my seat back and start eating. Even though it is broad daylight, and I'm in an area near my home where mugging and assaults are virtually unheard of, decades of living female have conditioned me to feel that I should never get too relaxed in a public place without a locked door between me and the rest of the world.

Old habits die hard.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
15. A friend of mine posted this on Facebook,
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 02:36 AM
Oct 2022

And two random men responded by asking to become her friends. One said he was posting on the thread because she had blocked his friend request.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
17. I am 75 & this brings tears to my eyes. Starting with gutting the Voting Rights Act, this SCOTUS...
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 02:56 AM
Oct 2022

… has been undoing every single thing I have ever worked for in my life, and they are not done yet.

They must be stopped — and the only conceivable way is by electing Democrats up and down the ballot.



Delmette2.0

(4,165 posts)
21. I'm 70 and I know their games.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:40 AM
Oct 2022

I sent my son to get quotes on a new set of tires. He came back with three. I know I would have gotten only one, the most expensive.

I don't have time for their shit and my son wants the right kind of tires for me.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
23. Women, This November You Know What To Do
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 02:50 PM
Oct 2022



Women, This November you know what to do [Cartoon of woman kicking a republican man in the testicle.]




#GOTV2022
#ROEVEMBER2022
#BLUEWAVE2022
#VOTEBLUE2022






Lonestarblue

(10,003 posts)
25. And the really sad thing is that millions of women buy into the misogyny.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 02:59 PM
Oct 2022

They believe that men are just smarter than women, that their husbands know more about business and politics and will tell them how to vote, that a woman’s “natural” place is as a mother raising children, that men are the domestic rulers. Socially, politically, and economically (with severe income inequality), we are regressing as a nation. I don’t know what the catalyst is to stop that regression.

ancianita

(36,060 posts)
39. Not really. They're groomed into it from childhood.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 04:55 PM
Oct 2022

The grooming of free will comes with adapting to misogynist systems (other groomed women, girls, moms, and exposure to male run religion, families, law, medicine, social and economic inequity, etc), and so they live thinking they have free will when it's really been groomed out of them.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Nonsense that today voting is all we can do. Women have never been
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 03:02 PM
Oct 2022

as empowered, in spite of the repeal of Roe. Refusing to acknowledge power because indulgence of grievance feels better, and requires no action or courage, is to abandon power and invite abuse -- for self and others.

But of course vote, like your life could depend on it. Because it really could. The Republican pandemic showed how the RW powers really "value" life, and especially of those no longer producing profits.

And summon your inner Pelosi and say no to abuse when it shows up because by FAR-FAR the biggest part of the job can only be done by people living their principles.

calimary

(81,299 posts)
40. OOOOOOOhhhh, I LOVE that! "Summon your inner Pelosi"!!!
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 04:56 PM
Oct 2022

Holy Cannoli you're good, Hortensis!

"Summon your inner Pelosi"!

I am going to find a way to use that in our weekly Call to Action email, in one way or other.

BonnieJW

(2,265 posts)
52. You're right
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:57 PM
Oct 2022

I'm 73. In 1970, I was newly married and living in an apartment building in Richmond, Virginia. My neighbors had just had a baby and we became friends.

Susan told us that she was an elementary school teacher but was fired when she became pregnant. She was told it was policy in Virginia that teachers could not work when pregnant. She sued the state and it went all the way to the Supreme Court. It took 10 years but she won. By that time, she'd had a second baby.

Yes, you can do more than vote.

Permanut

(5,610 posts)
27. Thanks Nevilledog..
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 03:08 PM
Oct 2022

Powerful post. This 74 year old male would like to send all of these jerks, harassers, misogynists and sexists to an island. And I have another idea for those men who assault and rape; I told my wife I'd like to have my own "re-education" camp for them.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
28. I'm a 69 year old man
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 03:08 PM
Oct 2022

And I never treated a woman that way or put her in that position.

But I saw other men do it and usually did nothing about it and I'm feeling terrible about that.

Ruby Zee

(170 posts)
30. I am a senior citizen
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 03:57 PM
Oct 2022

I identify with and have experienced all of this. Vote like your life depends on it!

SouthernLiberal

(407 posts)
31. I had a horrible math teacher
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 04:00 PM
Oct 2022

As far as I could tell, he didn't think that girls should take advanced math. If he asked a question, and the whole class raised hands, he picked a boy. If a boy gave a wrong answer, he just asked the question again.

He only called on girls when we did not raise our hands, or if any girl did not raise her hand. We got no credit for a correct answer, but if we gave a wrong answer, it was because girls were not good at math.

That was my junior year, and I ended up with an A in the class. As usual, only the guys who ended up going to the military academy's did better. I was looking forward to calculus, until I found out that the calculus teacher had left, and the "girls aren't good at math" guy. So I didn't take calculus.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

llmart

(15,540 posts)
35. +1000
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 04:28 PM
Oct 2022

For every episode of my life where I dealt with some jerk of a guy who thought I was less than because I was female. Change the specifics of each of the 15 points and I can relate to all of them and then some. I'm 73. I've lived with that crap for far too long. It needs to stop for my daughter and my granddaughter.

I'm a lifelong voter - Democratic every.single.time. I was involved in the second wave of the feminist movement from the time I was 16. I can't believe this shit still goes on.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
42. Such a great posting!! As a woman in the tech field i've felt discounted, underrepresented and
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 05:29 PM
Oct 2022

underestimated all my career. For most of my career i was the only female techie on a team of males. I've experienced varying forms of backhanded compliments, demeaning subtle remarks, sarcastic comments, belittling, disrespect, arrogance... from men who either lack EQ or are chauvanistic jerks. Us women have to be twice as good to even be considered equals. We're in the 21st century & it's still a man's world.

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
45. Ugh why did I learn this stuff so late
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 05:50 PM
Oct 2022

Last edited Sun Oct 16, 2022, 09:21 PM - Edit history (1)

My co-ed fraternity had such a strong and consistent rep as safe for single woman once when an actual false claim was made it was doubted w cause. We had none of those issues and we did have to protect inebriated women from shady guys on occasion. I've only picked up on the depth of these issues reading the xxchromisome reddit. I hope we can continue to reduce the frequency of those bad acts and increase the consequences.

love_katz

(2,579 posts)
46. I was 18, and my college advisor told me to "go home and have babies "!!!-
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 06:27 PM
Oct 2022
I can remember the cat calling when I had to walk alone on the street, even in broad daylight. I began voting about 50 years ago, and I have NEVER voted republican. I will remember in Roevember and I fervently hope that the majority of us do exactly that. Vote the repukes out of office everywhere, every last one of them. Deliver the kick to their genitals that they so richly deserve!!!

WVreaper

(621 posts)
49. I AM A VOTER!
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:28 PM
Oct 2022

To all of the females out there, do not forget that, and do not let anyone take that away from you.

FakeNoose

(32,641 posts)
51. I hope many parents are reading this thread
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:40 PM
Oct 2022

And I mean parents of BOYS as well as GIRLS.

How we raise and teach our children has more effect on the next generation than any other single thing.

niyad

(113,323 posts)
55. Enraged KNR. I hoped that it would get bettter, at least for our younger sisters.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:18 PM
Oct 2022

But I knew we were only one vote away from "The Handmaid's Tale". Only, we are NOT going quietly.

This nasty old persistent woman is ANGRY, OUTRAGED, DISGUSTED, and VOTING.

And channeling my inner Pelosi.

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