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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPaul Ryan makes bold prediction about Trump and MAGA lovers won't like it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/paul-ryan-makes-bold-prediction-121409517.html"I think Trumps unelectability will be palpable by then," Ryan said. "We all know that he will lose. We all know that he is so much more likely to lose the White House than anybody else running for president on our side of the aisle, so why would we want to go with that?"
Ryan said Trump would try to intimidate other Republicans from joining the race, but predicted the strategy will ultimately fail.
"The only reason he stays where he is is because everybodys afraid of him," Ryan said. "Theyre afraid of him going after them, hurting their own ambition. But as soon as you sort of get the herd mentality going, its unstoppable."
"Whether he runs or not, I dont really know if it matters," Ryan added. "Hes not going to be the nominee, I dont think."
OnDoutside
(19,960 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)I do think he will ultimately bring down the GOP, but I'm no longer taking a position as to when that happens.
malaise
(269,025 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 16, 2022, 02:34 PM - Edit history (1)
The Slobfather will be a pariah by then
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)The 30th century.
malaise
(269,025 posts)Fixed
ProfessorGAC
(65,058 posts)Cannot compare then to now.
Then he was an unknown, politically. The illusion that he was a big business titan still existed.
Much of the middle of the road were in "let's try something different" mode. A "what's the harm" mindset.
Now, much of America knows he's not a business genius, he's rotten as president, the "harm" was manifested, and the unknown is gone.
Remember that in '20, he got more votes, but lost the PV by 5 million more votes than in '16.
In '16, there was little motivation to vote AGAINST him. That motivation, especially among the middle, is greater than ever.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in 2016, and 100M people didn't vote at all. In 2020, 20M of them did vote -- some for, but most against.
Mopar151
(9,983 posts)Die! Seriously, his quiet death would be a gift to any "non-undead" Republican.
Lonestarblue
(10,007 posts)His cult would find twenty different stories about how it wasnt natural.
Frasier Balzov
(2,654 posts)Through some Herculean effort waged in the court system of every state?
Will be quite a shtruggle.
live love laugh
(13,114 posts)2naSalit
(86,643 posts)He's been upstaged by the orange pariah. Remember how HE was the worst thing in the planet until that orange menace showed up?
Skittles
(153,164 posts)yes INDEED
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)I know the media and everyone started to say he was "elected president"
But he was not, he was, is and should always be referred to as a LOOPHOLE PRESIDENT and that's the only way he should ever be referred to.
This nonsense that he has any type of electability whatsoever is absolutely stupid.
He lost the popular vote by 3 million in 2016
He lost the popular vote by 7 million in 2020
Do they honestly believe the American people won't show up and stump that Orange monkey back into the ground where he belongs in 2024? He would lose the popular vote by 10 million.
In fact there is no measurable metric that will give republicans the way if republicans the White House ever again unless they cheat it and completely stole their votes away.
Forgive my frustration but I don't believe it's even a conversation worth having and Paul Ryan just needs to go back to the gym put his hat on backwards and keep making goofy photographs because that's all he was ever good for
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Paul Ryan on his own people. And some on the left too of course.
Herd mentalities follow charismatic goats.
No big opinion of Ryan's judgement for sure. A libertarian extremist too whacked for even the Freedom Caucus! (probably the real thing, libertarian by personality) But I'd be interested in what he's really thinking about all the possible "whos" the MAGA herd might fasten on this time.
Emile
(22,780 posts)is unheard of!
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)There is no way for Republicans to cut Trump loose without him sinking the whole party. If they try to he will destroy them by starting a MAGA party.