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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAsking lawyers in the house: by my count, Trump broke 17 federal laws -- am I off?
1.18 U.S. Code 371 conspiracy to defraud the United States/commit federal crime
18 U.S. Code 2384 seditious conspiracy
18 U.S. Code 2383 rebellion or insurrection
18 U.S. Code 1505 obstruction of proceedings
18 U.S. Code 1341, 1343, 1346, 1349 wire fraud
18 U.S. Code 2071 concealment, removal or mutilation of government documents
18 U.S. Code 1519 obstruction of justice; destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations and bankruptcy
18 U.S. Chapter 37 Espionage Act
-- Code 793 gathering, transmitting, losing defense information
-- Code 798 disclosure of classified information
18 U.S. Code 1001 lying about status of government documents
18 U.S. Code 1512 tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant
18 U.S. Code 872 extortion by officers or employees
44 U.S. Code Chapter 22 removal of presidential records
2 U.S. Code 192 refusal of witness to testify or produce papers
2.
Only by the court filings will we know under what laws the DOJ will make its cases.
The breadth of evidence is not yet known, so we have to trust AG Garlands DOJ to lay out the beyond a reasonable doubt level evidence for each. Even one piece of evidence, however, is sufficient to indict.
Im no lawyer, but I'd still guess that given any evidence reported so far, the number charging counts number from a few to the hundreds.
It might or might not just be arduous for a jury to decide the defendant's guilt or innocence of these charges.
It might be that putting a jury together will be an unprecedented difficulty.
Once Trump is charged, at least 30 more people who the Jan 6 Committee said have taken the 5th, can either be charged with these, or with 'aiding and abetting' or accessories after the fact under these laws.
Beyond those 30, elected congress people can be charged if there is evidence that they attempted, conspired, or aided and abetted any of these federal crimes.
3.
We know why there will be indictments. Because
-- No one is above the law.
-- A failed coup without consequences becomes a training exercise.
Finally, IMPO, those Republicans who have testified ( Barr, Meadows, the Trump family, etc), and provided evidentiary witness and documents,
and those Republicans who have trashed, threatened, or destroyed those sworn testifiers' reputations
-- they will ALL still vote Republican.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)So YUGE he is still roaming free because of it and generating more evidence.
Thanks for the great summary, I won't be surprised if he is arrested at any second in the future.
Tick tock.
ancianita
(36,060 posts)Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)TICK TOCK!
ancianita
(36,060 posts)I can appreciate your sense of humor but imo, we're in the serious zone for at least the next two years. Just sayin'.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Out of business.
6 years of headlines and $ick $tupidity fueled B$ later, yeah enough of his intru$ion.
Metaphorical
(1,603 posts)I do see house arrest, and curtailment of any business or political activities, massive fines, and limits on who he can speak to. I can also see exile, especially if he skips out of the country before hand. At that point he becomes someone else's problem.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,291 posts)I suspect that TFG will be bankrupted before he is convicted and that he may be forced to cut a deal. If TFG is convicted, the many lawsuits based on the KKK ACT would almost guarantee that TFG would be bankrupted. I suspect that a deal would be reached for home confinement with monitoring for internet and other communications and a ban on serving in public office.