MAGA Encounter. Typical.

[kairos12]

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At the gym I couldn't resist the guy shaking his image as Biden was on the TV. Keep in mind this was an old white guy, I look like a fellow traveler. I asked what's up? Cue the music, the firehose of lies began: inflation it's all Biden, 6 January was the FBI, we need to get out of Ukraine, that MAGA who was shot by Capitol police was a hero, it went on.

I listened and said you know Chump is the most corrupt person on the face of the earth. I left him with his traitorous mouth on the floor. Old white guys, with military haircuts, not all the same.

[MLAA]

1. Good for you! Give 'em hell.

[Warpy]

20. Harry Truman put it best

“I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell.” --Harry Truman

[MLAA]

21. Perfect!

[RKP5637]

2. Yep, and in their minds great American patriots because they support Trump and Putin! n/t

[SoCalDavidS]

10. Fucking Traitors

They're the reason I Hate America, and am even thinking of leaving someday.

[RKP5637]

12. They are absolutely deranged disgusting POS. And they won't accept facts, just

the crap Trump feeds them and the disgusting media.

[TheProle]

26. Wait. Let me make sure I have this right:

You condemn traitors but hate America and want to leave? That’s some tortured ideology there…

[ShazzieB]

36. Well stated!

If someone hates America that much, I for one will be happy to show them the door. They need to get out of the way, because some of us here have work to do!

[SoCalDavidS]

42. So You're Insinuating That I'm A Traitor For Wanting To Leave?

Excuse me if I don't want to go down with a sinking Fascist ship. That's the way things are headed.

Between all the MAGA Morons, Gun Violence, Abortion Restrictions, and the ones yet to come like Prayer In Schools, I really am disgusted with the path America is on.

Most people couldn't care less about how things are falling apart all around them. I shouldn't have to fight to maintain a decent existence. And if you think that it's our patriotic duty to sacrifice our very existence to salvage decent values, while others constantly put up road blocks, then go right ahead.

I'd like to enjoy my final years alive, and not be stressed out every single day.

[TheProle]

44. Not insinuating anything of the sort.

It’s just odd for someone to be outraged at treason against a country they hate and hope to leave.

[SoCalDavidS]

45. I Hate The Rights Being Taken Away, And What's Yet To Come

The proliferation of guns and the daily gun violence is enough reason to want out. I don't see that changing in my lifetime.

I feel ashamed and embarrassed, and the way people dealt with Covid was pathetic. So yeah, I'd rather live in a Progressive country like Denmark, New Zealand, Australia, among others, where belligerent Pieces Of Shit like MTG, Gaetz, Jordan, DeSatan, Cruz, Abbott, aren't wielding power and making things worse on a daily basis.

[Joinfortmill]

52. I hear you...

Just one old gal here.

When Trump won in 2016, I went to bed, pulled the covers over my head and cried. The next day I began to plan for the day I might need to leave the U.S.A. My grown kids thought I was crazy. By the time Biden was running against Trump, they didn't think I was so crazy. Biden won and I began to be more hopeful. But, people, we are still in a very dangerous place.

The thing is that when fascism begins to take hold you need to pay attention and make a decision about what you are going to do, and when you are going to do it. Never forget what happened in Germany. People waited too long to leave or, sadly, had no means to leave. The result was horrific. Others decided to stay and fight. Most died heroes. Neither decision was easy.

As for loving or hating the U.S.A., sometimes our emotions of the moment or the times take over. This is a great country in many ways, especially for the principles it was founded on, but it's history is not all rosy. We've had our dark moments, quite a few of them, in fact. I don't always like what my country is up to. Other times, I'm very proud of the U.S.A. I guess, in the case of our country, we are always working toward that more perfect union.

Countries are not inherently evil, people are evil. Well, evil has risen in the U.S.A. and we all must make our own personal decisions of what we will do: leave or stay and fight for that more perfect union. God bless us all and God bless America.

[flying_wahini]

53. They called Jewish Families hysterical for wanting to leave Germany, too.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

3. TFG supporters are idiots

[Hugh_Lebowski]

4. I'd say mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, gullible, hypocritical, evil fucking morons

If I may

Oops I forgot gaslighting ...

[jaxexpat]

19. That pretty well sums it up, but they've been rehearsing for decades.

From time-to-time facts are irrefutable but when they contradict the neo-con, nee MAGA bloviation they are and have always been quickly ignored due to some shiny new object to fascinate over. Whether it is the latest conspiracy, the newest both-siderism or a new group of "inner-circle" knowledge bearers to join, throwing in so that the facts can never quite make it all the way into the brain where it would stand, incorruptible and lasting because it's........true.

That is the secret behind the idiocy. These idiots are so Pavlovianal* (harshly self-trained/auto-hypnotized to refuse contradiction of their OCD impulsive thought processes) they never give facts a nano-second to dwell in their minds. It could be a side effect of the ingredients in craft beer or Starbucks but it's probably that they don't have much success with the opposite sex and idolize those that appear to.

*term I invented today and you're among the first to see it.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

37. Pavlovianalism -- the deliberate inFOXication of multitudes to manipulate social policies

[jaxexpat]

46. We've come a long way since Thomas Paine's pamphlets.

But, so long as there are suffixes, we shall persist.

"Arrested for public inFOXication", has a nice ring to it.

[DFW]

48. A new definition for road rage

Driving while infoxicated!

[czarjak]

5. The truth will not sway them.

[Meadowoak]

25. the truth, around here will get your tires slashed in the middle of the night.

[FakeNoose]

6. Good answer - and you're absolutely right

Chump really is the most corrupt person on earth. Good job my friend!

[cutroot]

7. Been there done that

They just come back with something even stupider.
Probably best not to strength their resolve to go even deeper

[homegirl]

31. The MAGA

supporters do not really care what is published-they only want coverage of their outrageous, uninformed statements. They follow their leader in the unquenchable thirst for above the fold coverage.

[cyclonefence]

8. Yup

it's up to us older middle-class white folks to be present in the lives of MAGGOTS. That's why I make sure to fly my big American flag every day, to emphasize my Shapiro for Governor signs (PA).

One of our MAGGOT friends who is totally poisoned by Fox abruptly started paying attention to what my husband was telling him about propaganda when he visited my husband's office and saw all the certificates on the walls. I guess he decided that someone who'd graduated from so many places and won so many professional awards might know something he didn't.

[Evolve Dammit]

9. x1000!

[Pepsidog]

11. Old white Magats are scum. I know many of them and they are all immoral scum.

[live love laugh]

40. Today in Subway MAGAt behind me muttered about "them" not speaking English

as the Indian employee waited on the customer before us.

I never looked around.

[Skittles]

13. I will never understand how a military person can admire someone as dishonorable as Trump

disgusting

[niyad]

38. I think that military haircut thing was our poster.

But yeah, I do not see how any military person can support that draft-dodging TRAITOR**.

[Aristus]

15. Good for you!

From a fellow old white guy with short military haircut.

[dchill]

16. Most of them have always been MAGATS.

We just spelled it differently.

[ProfessorGAC]

17. I Don't Get Away With That

9" ponytail, well-trimmed goatee, always wear black dress slacks. They're pretty sure I'm not on their team.
I did have one nutjob around here that I've known almost as long as we've been in this town.
He's got 5 big TFG flags, another with an Ar-15 on it, campaign signs for all the fascists running thus year.
He saw me at the Minute Mart a couple days ago. Said hi.
I told him I don't talk to traitors to our country.
He looked shocked. I didn't give him time to reply. Just walked out to the car.

[Boomerproud]

27. I applaud your courage. Sincerely.

[FoxNewsSucks]

32. Good for you.

Best way to respond to them.

A few times, I've seen a MAGAt coming, either wearing a tRump shirt or one of those stupid hats. I just make sure they see me look and as I pass by quietly say "he LOST, get over it" and keep walking. No point in standing around arguing with them. Once, I really enjoyed it because it happened as I was walking out the door of a QuikTrip. I kept walking, but that apparently set the MAGAt off, because he started yelling crap about "tRump won he's gonna save us". No one else heard what I said, but when others turned to look, there was a nutbag yelling about tRump for no apparent reason.

I still laugh about it, and hope I can provoke more of them to make fools of themselves in public.

[ProfessorGAC]

33. Good Move!

The crazy guy now known as a crazy guy! Perfect.

[Hortensis]

18. Great. That's how to make a statement. And not an argument.

[calimary]

22. THANK YOU for seizing the moment! And leaving a mark.

Hopefully, your story will inspire others of like mind.

You never know if there's a sympathetic, or open, ear within earshot. Remember all the Republican legislators who, when pressed, concede that trump was wrong and horrible and reprehensible and all that, but they support them BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID NOT TO.

That mob made a big impression on January 6th. A powerful impression that would not be ignored. Hell, we're STILL seeing video clips of the melee at the Capital, and they're still having a real, and current, impact. And these weasels want only to be reelected. All they want is to keep their jobs. Because those jobs mean power that they wouldn't have, as an average person back home. So principles and good government be damned.

I'm not sure what to do except to keep backing the good guys and keep their backbones well-supplemented.

What I AM sure we should NOT do - is give up.

[paleotn]

23. Funny how they feel they can open up to us since we appear to fit the stereotype....

Until they find out we most certainly don't. I know the look you're talking about. It's priceless.

My answer to their ranting about trans issues drives them nuts. It's simple. Why...do...you...care? Why do you care? What is it to you? How on god's green earth does that affect YOU and YOURS in any way, shape or form? That's usually followed by stammering, a red face and then something about god, abomination, two sexes or something along those lines. Ignoring the biology of it, my retort is, then let your god deal with it. What? He's not big enough to handle some trans folks on his own? Well, supposedly he did say "do unto others as you'd have done unto you" ...and DIDN'T qualify it. Equivalent to my "treat everyone equally." They're happy so leave them alone. Go get all pissed off about something that actually DOES impact you, or at least could, like the price of insulin for instance. Ugh.

[ohtransplant]

24. "Old white guys, with military haircuts, not all the same." :-D

I'm one of them too! They always assume I'm with them and then...I'm not!

Great job!

[IronLionZion]

28. More MAGA heroes should die for the cause

Since they're totally not terrorists.

[FoxNewsSucks]

29. That seems to be the best way to deal with them.

I hate letting them get by unchallenged, but it's impossible to have a rational discussion with them. So I've taken to a one to two sentence comment then keep moving. Make the point, they can realize not everyone agrees with them, maybe piss them off.

I consider it a civic duty whenever MAGAt crap is spewed.

[Liberal In Texas]

30. I'm glad I don't run into these people.

I wouldn't be so polite.

[egduj]

34. You do describe the typical gym encounter.

Me waiting to use a machine while two people stand around it bullshitting.

[Tikki]

35. Something I've noticed. Some people will sit in their vehicles in a parking lot with

all the windows rolled down and Right Wing radio blasting from their radios.

My family may listen to Public Radio as we move around in our car, but we would never
intrude into someone's space.

The Tikkis

[Initech]

39. That awkward moment when you realize that you've been brainwashed by Fox News.

[Sympthsical]

41. Don't talk to me at the gym

Why are politics acceptable as a form of, "Let's get into it with people in public in an extremely weird and inappropriate way."

Seriously. Do not talk to me at the gym. Unless the barbell fell and someone's actively dying. Then, ok. I respond to gurgles.

So glad my parents socialized me.

[Aussie105]

43. Best response from me, anyway: Trump? Who that?

Sorry, don't follow any sports, what team does he play for?

I can out-ignorant them any day!

But yeah, don't judge us older white guys by our looks, who we are goes deeper than that.

Anyway, other people are insulted if you lump them into a group by their appearance, and respond to the stereotype rather than the person.
(People wearing white pointy hats and white sheets and carrying flaming torches are the exception of course. And people randomly shooting up a crowd. It's safe to make some assumptions about who they are.)

[Buckeye_Democrat]

47. I must resemble a MAGAt because of...

... my "clean cut" appearance, trying to avoid standing out in the crowd.

Several of my coworkers, past and present, have openly discussed their right-wing authoritarian bullshit with me... as if I'm guaranteed to agree with them. They later act especially angry with me when they discover otherwise, as if my appearance was an effort to deceive them.

They should instead look at facial expressions. Since I'm rarely angry-looking, that should be their main clue that I'm not one of them.

EDIT: In recent years, though, many of them seem to like the "biker" look. Lol!

[Woodwizard]

49. I doubt it did anything he was just shocked that his assumtion of you was off

I get right wingers thinking I am on their side all the time I have a crew cut prior military and work with my hands and 58.

I let them know I am not, but that wont change their opinion one bit, the few that pursue an argument I tell them where to go in short order it just not worth the debate.

[Wonder Why]

50. I hope you took a long shower afterwards with strong soap to

get the MAGA smell out and reduce your chances of catching Maggot Fever - more dangerous and widespread than Covid!

Make sure you contact the gym staff so they call in a disinfection unit and file a form with the EPA to declare the gym a Toxic Waste Site.

[Joinfortmill]

51. You go!