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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,253 posts)
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 05:48 PM Oct 2022

GOP plan to cut Social Security, Medicare in 2023 comes into view

If the GOP win control of either the House or the Seante, expect to see a good number of government shutdowns. The MAGA idiots are planning on shutting down the federal government to force cuts in social security and Medicare. GOP/MAGA control of the Houe will equal cuts to social security and Medicare




Democrats have spent much of the year warning voters that Republicans will seek cuts to Social Security and Medicare if put in power, and an amazing number of GOP officials and candidates have bolstered the claims. What’s new this week, however, is Republicans signaling how they intend to pursue their goal.....

Wrong. Bloomberg Government published a striking report yesterday sketching out GOP officials’ plans to work around a veto threat and force Biden to accept cuts to the popular social insurance programs.

Social Security and Medicare eligibility changes, spending caps, and safety-net work requirements are among the top priorities for key House Republicans who want to use next year’s debt-limit deadline to extract concessions from Democrats. The four Republicans interested in serving as House Budget Committee chairman in the next Congress said in interviews that next year’s deadline to raise or suspend the debt ceiling is a point of leverage if their party can win control of the House in the November midterm elections.


In theory, GOP lawmakers could pursue their goals through the American legislative process. They could propose cuts to Social Security and Medicare, move the bill through committee, hold a floor debate, try to make the case for their plan’s merits, hope to persuade stakeholders and the public, and make an effort to pass their bill.

In practice, Republicans assume — correctly — that the American legislative process wouldn’t help them achieve their goals, because their priorities are regressive and deeply unpopular. So they’re settling on a new plan: circumvent their country’s existing system and get what they want by creating a hostage crisis.

For those who remember what happened after the 2010 midterm elections, the rough sketch of the GOP strategy will seem familiar: Republicans will tell the White House that they’ll refuse to address the debt ceiling unless Biden agrees to cut Social Security and Medicare. If the Democratic president balks, Republicans will allow the United States to default on its obligations and crash the economy on purpose.

I remember the post 2010 shutdowns with the tea party. The MAGA idiots are even more extreme
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GOP plan to cut Social Security, Medicare in 2023 comes into view (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 OP
I can only hope that some GOP voters' guts clench... dchill Oct 2022 #1
Sorry Cosmocat Oct 2022 #14
Hara-kiri. dchill Oct 2022 #17
Except wo the honor Cosmocat Oct 2022 #18
McCarthy will destroy the economy to get cuts to Social Security and Medicare LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #25
Why Rebl2 Oct 2022 #2
+100 I totally agree with you. Dems should be hammering on this every chance they get. skylucy Oct 2022 #8
My Congressman is going directly after his opponent JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #12
Good Rebl2 Oct 2022 #13
Time to eliminate the ceiling IbogaProject Oct 2022 #3
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #4
Should have been Rebl2 Oct 2022 #10
I do not understand this vlyons Oct 2022 #5
More like they want the $ in these programs. no_hypocrisy Oct 2022 #6
They have no intention Mr.Bill Oct 2022 #15
By pay down the deficit, you mean fund tax cuts for the wealthy. tinrobot Oct 2022 #16
The MAGA nutcases do not care about their voters LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #7
Republican seniors don't believe any cuts would affect them. Mariana Oct 2022 #9
we should be hammering the ever-loving shit out of them on this... bahboo Oct 2022 #11
It's the one thing Dem candidates for both House and Senate should be shouting from the Liberal In Texas Oct 2022 #19
+1 n/t area51 Oct 2022 #21
GOP wants to push to extend Trump tax cuts after midterm elections LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #20
Thank God for Biden BlueIdaho Oct 2022 #22
GOP's new contract for America calls for raising age for Medicare eligibility to 75 LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #23
Social Security will be eliminated if the GOP take control in 2022 LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #24

dchill

(38,497 posts)
1. I can only hope that some GOP voters' guts clench...
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 05:52 PM
Oct 2022

...when they see this - like mine just did. I'm not too hopeful, though, because A.) They'd have to read it, and B.) They'd have to understand that it really does directly impact THEM.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
14. Sorry
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 11:12 PM
Oct 2022

They know full well what the gop is planning and they are clenching to hold back their overwhelming joy of having the libtards owned!

Rebl2

(13,510 posts)
2. Why
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 06:05 PM
Oct 2022

don’t I hear more democrats talking about the plans that republicans have to damage social security and Medicare. Talk about how republicans plan to do it in great detail. Even republicans don’t want their social security and Medicare cut. They may not admit it out loud though.

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
3. Time to eliminate the ceiling
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 06:06 PM
Oct 2022

I hope our seat count increases but if not then we have to go lame duck on that.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
5. I do not understand this
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 06:08 PM
Oct 2022

Surely there are millions of Republican seniors, who rely on SocSec and medicare. How in the world do these MAGAts think that cutting these programs are a good thing. They must truly hate old people.

no_hypocrisy

(46,114 posts)
6. More like they want the $ in these programs.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 06:13 PM
Oct 2022

End the programs and use the $ to pay down the deficit they created. You didn't think that they'd send individual's their share of savings over the years, did you?

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,253 posts)
7. The MAGA nutcases do not care about their voters
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 06:14 PM
Oct 2022

These assholes want to destroy Social Security and Medicare

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
9. Republican seniors don't believe any cuts would affect them.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 07:57 PM
Oct 2022

They figure any benefit cuts will be laid only on younger people, sometime in the future. They're probably right. That's how SS benefit cuts have been implemented before, when they raised the retirement age. That didn't affect anyone who was receiving SS benefits at the time.

Liberal In Texas

(13,553 posts)
19. It's the one thing Dem candidates for both House and Senate should be shouting from the
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 09:27 AM
Oct 2022

rooftops. "Voting for repubs will mean your Social Security and Medicare WILL be cut!"

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,253 posts)
20. GOP wants to push to extend Trump tax cuts after midterm elections
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 10:48 AM
Oct 2022

The GOP want to cut Social Security and Medicare in order to be able to expend The TFG tax cuts. A vote for a republican is a vote to cut social security and to extend the TFG tax cuts



https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/10/17/republicans-tax-trump-biden/

Republicans plan to push to extend key parts of President Donald Trump’s tax cuts if they take control of Congress in this fall’s elections, aiming to force President Biden to codify trillions of dollars worth of lower taxes touted by his predecessor.

With Democrats likely to lose control of the House of Representatives and possibly the Senate, Republicans are preparing to advance legislation that would make permanent the GOP’s 2017 changes to the tax rates paid by individuals. Republican officials will also push for scrapping some of the law’s specific tax increases on corporations that were designed to offset the cost of their enormous overall cut to the corporate tax rate.

Many economists say the GOP’s plans to expand the tax cuts flies against their promises to fight inflation and reduce the federal deficit, which have emerged as central themes of their 2022 midterm campaign rhetoric. Tax cuts boost inflation just like new spending, because they increase economic demand and throw it out of balance with supply. But Republicans say they believe these efforts would put Biden in a political bind, requiring him to choose between vetoing the tax cuts — giving the GOP an attack line in the 2024 presidential election — or allowing Republicans to win on one of their central legislative agenda items.,,,,

“While President Biden and congressional Democrats are fighting to make middle class families the heart of our economy. … Republicans want to sell those families out to rich special interests and by doubling down on their 2017 tax giveaway to the ultrawealthy and corporations,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates said.

The fight over Trump’s tax cuts could become a key feature of divided government should Republicans take control of one or both branches of Congress. Congressional lawmakers and the White House will have to come to agreements over funding the government, averting a breach of the debt ceiling and other spending bills — negotiations that will give the GOP an opportunity to press their policy demands. Democrats used control of the House after the 2018 midterm elections to push Trump into accepting many of their priorities, such as expanded domestic spending and paid leave for federal workers......

But Republicans say they are committed to extending the cuts. “The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act has been providing real, substantial relief to families and businesses,” said Rep. Jason T. Smith (R-Mo.), the ranking member of the House Budget Committee, in a statement. “We need to build on that success by making permanent those policies that are supporting families and workers while looking at what more needs to be done to the tax code.”


BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
22. Thank God for Biden
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 11:13 AM
Oct 2022

I’m still holding out hope for a Blue Wave big enough to hold our majorities. If not… the GQP won’t end up with a veto proof majority so this shit will die on the President’s desk. Still, we need to pound the hell out of this issue NOW!

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