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kentuck

(112,300 posts)
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 07:50 PM Oct 2022

What happens if Trump is indicted and there are marches and violence in several cities?

Should mayors be prepared to call for the National Guard if there is violence in their streets?

Should the Governors put their National Guard units on alert?

It really shouldn't matter that much. Justice is much more important.

Or as Baretta used to say, "Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time."

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What happens if Trump is indicted and there are marches and violence in several cities? (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2022 OP
Biden should declare martial law and send them to Gitmo. LakeArenal Oct 2022 #1
HAHA DemocraticPatriot Oct 2022 #33
Yes. If they meet any resistance the gravy seals will go home. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #2
Ummmm StormKing Oct 2022 #14
Though the few Capitol Police who were there fought as hard as they could, Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #21
Are you factoring... StormKing Oct 2022 #22
I'm not underestimating anyone. And there's this: as I said, I think the correct action Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #24
You were completely wrong on a basic fact StormKing Oct 2022 #43
There was, intentionally, almost no resistance. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #48
Goal post moving StormKing Oct 2022 #49
I never said LOL. You must be confusing me with someone else you are having a senseless fight with. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #51
treat them Timewas Oct 2022 #3
Yep cilla4progress Oct 2022 #17
We will wake up the next morning pwb Oct 2022 #4
Deploy the Jewish Space Lasers. grumpyduck Oct 2022 #5
I love those damn things. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #7
They're gonna call out the National Guard Turbineguy Oct 2022 #6
ONLY repug governors would do that. elleng Oct 2022 #8
What?....wear the T-shirts? A HERETIC I AM Oct 2022 #10
call out guard on 'them!' elleng Oct 2022 #15
::wheeze:: GenThePerservering Oct 2022 #25
That would be Meal Team 6. GoCubsGo Oct 2022 #46
I think it wil be a big fizzle bucolic_frolic Oct 2022 #9
Agree. It's kind of like the boy who cried wolf. They may want to do something but they saw Quixote1818 Oct 2022 #13
this is what I predict will happen if Trump is indicted agingdem Oct 2022 #11
I think so, too! cilla4progress Oct 2022 #18
Treat them like terrorists vercetti2021 Oct 2022 #12
STOP UNDERESTIMATING THEM StormKing Oct 2022 #16
Yes, this will happen. cilla4progress Oct 2022 #20
You seem very excited! dpibel Oct 2022 #30
In large numbers! LOL Kaleva Oct 2022 #36
Give your stupid "LOL" StormKing Oct 2022 #42
Nothing you said supports your claim of "large numbers" Kaleva Oct 2022 #44
The cities largely hate Тяцмр. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2022 #19
75% of the vote TFG got in MI came from counties classified as urban or mostly urban Kaleva Oct 2022 #37
The instigators drive in from rural areas and gather in the cities tinrobot Oct 2022 #40
Seriously? The numbers will be underwhelming Maeve Oct 2022 #23
Call out the National Guard Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #26
Won't even compare to the size of the celebrations! Sogo Oct 2022 #27
It'll fizzle like those stupid convoys GenThePerservering Oct 2022 #28
Half the kooks have already been locked up after Jan. 6 Blue Owl Oct 2022 #29
keep in mind several states have legalized driving your car through masses of violent protestors ZonkerHarris Oct 2022 #31
It will be the biggest "Fizzle" in history. Baked Potato Oct 2022 #32
I think that they are 'mostly talk'.... internet warriors... DemocraticPatriot Oct 2022 #34
. struggle4progress Oct 2022 #35
I'm not super worried about violence jmowreader Oct 2022 #38
I can't see any situation where there are widespread protests. WarGamer Oct 2022 #39
at least violent ones that some are thinking, those will come later if things go truly pear shaped Celerity Oct 2022 #45
Well, we could all use a good clown parade. Chakaconcarne Oct 2022 #41
Militia standhero Oct 2022 #47
There won't be enough people to fill 10 porta-potties tenderfoot Oct 2022 #50

LakeArenal

(29,549 posts)
1. Biden should declare martial law and send them to Gitmo.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 07:52 PM
Oct 2022

Then stay in power for life…… (just kidding)

Scrivener7

(52,110 posts)
21. Though the few Capitol Police who were there fought as hard as they could,
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:26 PM
Oct 2022

their paltry numbers were ridiculous and their unarmed state was inappropriate for the battle they were tasked with.

Forces appropriately equipped and of sufficient numbers would easily have sent them packing.

StormKing

(243 posts)
22. Are you factoring...
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:29 PM
Oct 2022

... in maga police officers and police captains who will deliberately hamstring efforts as well as potentially join the other side and arm them?

We passed the point of being able to underestimate these people a long time ago. Doing so now is folly.

Scrivener7

(52,110 posts)
24. I'm not underestimating anyone. And there's this: as I said, I think the correct action
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:34 PM
Oct 2022

is to call out well armed forces in sufficient numbers to thwart violent protestors.

You, apparently, disagree that this is the correct action.

What, then, do you propose, if not armed resistance to violent protestors? Cake, perhaps?

StormKing

(243 posts)
43. You were completely wrong on a basic fact
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 12:09 PM
Oct 2022

That basic fact was your assertion that they will run if there's resistance. There was resistance.

THEY DID NOT RUN.

Everything else is word salad to get away from that fact.

Scrivener7

(52,110 posts)
48. There was, intentionally, almost no resistance.
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 01:32 PM
Oct 2022

But you seem to be more interested in making shit up so you can tell people they're wrong, here and elsewhere.

You're not really making any arguments. Speaking of word salad.

Like where you castigated everyone on DU for not "fighting" but then quickly went silent when you were asked what YOUR fight consisted of.

StormKing

(243 posts)
49. Goal post moving
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 02:59 PM
Oct 2022

Seriously. Oh sure it's not "real" resistance. Right. Uh huh.

Keep your LOL.

Put it on your forehead.

Scrivener7

(52,110 posts)
51. I never said LOL. You must be confusing me with someone else you are having a senseless fight with.
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 03:19 PM
Oct 2022

Or perhaps it is your habit to imagine people are laughing at you.

But, again, this interchange and the only other I have had with you have consisted of nothing more than your need to pick senseless fights and tell others that you are superior to them. When someone needs to do that, it means they aren't. But your psychology is not of interest to me and I have no wish to waste any more time one it.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Timewas

(2,260 posts)
3. treat them
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 07:55 PM
Oct 2022

Just like any other law breakers and arrest them there is no reason whatsoever to coddle them... Fuck their feelings.

pwb

(12,074 posts)
4. We will wake up the next morning
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:02 PM
Oct 2022

still in the United States of America. Having crushed any traitors in our streets?

Turbineguy

(38,098 posts)
6. They're gonna call out the National Guard
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:04 PM
Oct 2022

on 6 fat and stupid people wearing "I fuck on the First Date" Tee shirts?

GenThePerservering

(2,313 posts)
25. ::wheeze::
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:42 PM
Oct 2022

I just inhaled my coffee lol!

Not worried and I refuse to let threats intimidate me. They want a fight? That's how they'll get a fight.

OOPS! I misposted - I was laughing at the T-shirt slogan.

bucolic_frolic

(45,843 posts)
9. I think it wil be a big fizzle
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:13 PM
Oct 2022

MAGA has lost its mojo. They see their compatriots in court and some in jail. They know the damage it does to one's wallet and career. They are realizing the cult was little benefit to them. It was a place to build their vague anger and incubate hate. These people have families and livelihoods and assets. I just don't think they'll go there again, or at least not so soon.

Quixote1818

(29,916 posts)
13. Agree. It's kind of like the boy who cried wolf. They may want to do something but they saw
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:18 PM
Oct 2022

it didn't pay off before for those who did follow Trump the first time. Deep down they see MAGA's chance to take over the country is fizzing out and it's not going to be worth taking a chance this time. However, there could be some isolated domestic terrorist stuff that happens from some true believers.

agingdem

(8,423 posts)
11. this is what I predict will happen if Trump is indicted
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:16 PM
Oct 2022

there will be millions of people taking to the streets..think Biden's 2020 victory except this time no masks and lots of hugging...and I have no doubt local law enforcement will anticipate some pushback from Trump's brain-dead lowlife weekend warriors and they will be ready..

the proud boys/oath keepers had their big moment (January 6) and they paid the price...and they're pissed off at Trump for not saving their asses

StormKing

(243 posts)
16. STOP UNDERESTIMATING THEM
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:20 PM
Oct 2022

Good God some of the replies here are horrid. January 6th showed that these people will commit violence in large numbers. Whether or not they will succeed and their rights is moot compared to the property damage and actual violence inflicted on other human beings that they cause. And don't be stupid and think it's only going to be law enforcement that's going to catch their fists. They are going to attack innocent people in the streets and people will get hurt and killed. There will be corpses in the street because there were corpses in the capitol. (Babbitt lol)

cilla4progress

(25,443 posts)
20. Yes, this will happen.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:24 PM
Oct 2022

It already is.

Die on your feet or on your back. I take my courage from the brave Ukrainians.

dpibel

(3,111 posts)
30. You seem very excited!
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 09:48 PM
Oct 2022

I think maybe even a little bit over.

But this is, for sure, how real Democrats talk amongst themselves.

Kaleva

(37,623 posts)
36. In large numbers! LOL
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:45 PM
Oct 2022

Out of over 70 million that voted for TFG, only about 30 k bothered to go to D.C. for the 1/6 protest and out of that, about 800 attacked the Capitol.

When the FBI raided Mar-A-Lago, only a few hundred TFG supporters in FL out of over 5 1/2 million who voted for him in that state showed up there in a show of support for their leader.

There's a reason TFG holds his rallies in smaller venues.

StormKing

(243 posts)
42. Give your stupid "LOL"
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 12:05 PM
Oct 2022

Take your "LOL" to former officer Daniel Hodges and see if he laughs with you.

Pelosi couldn't trust the secret service for Pence.

But "LOL" lets not take them seriously "LOL."

Kaleva

(37,623 posts)
44. Nothing you said supports your claim of "large numbers"
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 12:41 PM
Oct 2022

DUers generally pride themselves on making statements supported by verifiable facts but that's not always the case .

BlueTsunami2018

(3,786 posts)
19. The cities largely hate Тяцмр.
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:23 PM
Oct 2022

There aren’t going to be any marches or violence for him in the cities. In Philly, we chase those bastards out if they show up.

His support is mainly in rural areas. I can’t imagine people driving in from Bumblefuck to gather in the nearest cities. There might be some kind of march in Washington but even that seems unlikely.

These threats are way overblown in my opinion.

Kaleva

(37,623 posts)
37. 75% of the vote TFG got in MI came from counties classified as urban or mostly urban
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:51 PM
Oct 2022

Trump got as many votes in the metro Detroit area, Wayne County, as he did in all of Upper Michigan and much of the northern part of Lower Michigan combined.

Clearly, at least in Michigan, the great bulk of TFGs support is in the urban areas. Not in the counties classified as mostly rural or rural where he only got 25% of his total vote from in that state.

tinrobot

(11,360 posts)
40. The instigators drive in from rural areas and gather in the cities
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:55 AM
Oct 2022

We've seen that happen in LA. They drive in from places like Bakersfield to cause mayhem in the city.

Portland OR, also saw a lot come from the surrounding conservative areas.

Maeve

(42,766 posts)
23. Seriously? The numbers will be underwhelming
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:30 PM
Oct 2022

There will be trouble, but more "lone wolf" than wolf pack. A few crowds, but more like the DC convoy than a Million Man march.

GenThePerservering

(2,313 posts)
28. It'll fizzle like those stupid convoys
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 08:49 PM
Oct 2022

Bunch of chuds going round and round in their rigs, lost on some interchange.

ZonkerHarris

(25,039 posts)
31. keep in mind several states have legalized driving your car through masses of violent protestors
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 09:49 PM
Oct 2022

in self defense

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
34. I think that they are 'mostly talk'.... internet warriors...
Sun Oct 16, 2022, 10:37 PM
Oct 2022

Local law enforcement should be enough to handle any actual violence. Yes, there may be a very few nut-jobs who will pick up their guns and kill a few people-- horrible, of course--- but no more than we have sadly become accustomed to from those who act with no reason, or their own twisted disturbed reasonings...

Remember, there was only ONE gunman who reacted to the document search, in Ohio, and everyone knows what happened to him.


Of course, if there is any real mass violence, public officials may have to request assistance where needed--

however, self-preservation is a strong need. Lots of overweight middle-aged and older internet warriors will stop to think,
"if I do this, I won't be able to drink beer and watch NASCAR on Sunday, will I?"


What most of these deplorable Trumptard internet warriors want,
is for SOMEONE ELSE to do their dirty work, while they hide safely at home!


I'm sick of their noise. Shit or get off the pot.
But if you decide to shit, law enforcement is very capable of settling your issues.


jmowreader

(51,149 posts)
38. I'm not super worried about violence
Mon Oct 17, 2022, 12:46 AM
Oct 2022

I don’t think that many of them will be willing to forfeit their firearms for Donald Trump.

Celerity

(46,154 posts)
45. at least violent ones that some are thinking, those will come later if things go truly pear shaped
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 12:47 PM
Oct 2022

down the road

standhero

(12 posts)
47. Militia
Thu Oct 20, 2022, 12:53 PM
Oct 2022

One thing that seems to be constantly overlooked these late summer days...is the stark difference in the landscape here in the US...post J6 and the criminal referrals that have come down to large numbers of those arrested and at least notified regarding their impending day of justice. The militia groups, including Qanon, the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers ...and probably 50 more less known groups...have been put on notice that their ideology and modus operandi are under fairly intense scrutiny. These folks are smart- evil for sure...but smart... and their tactics will change dramatically. I'm not sure what that might look like but the 'approach of the haters' or the 'right' will take on a new 'look' and they are staying up late at night figuring all that out. They will not 'storm the barricades again' folks...because that is all on camera and once identified...social media tracking... uncovers their every thought and threat. Standby

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