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hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 06:33 AM Oct 2022

Don't lecture me about not being realistic this morning because Steve Kornacki reveling over

"his take" on how things are turning for R's has me wanting to unscrew his head like a toy doll. (and no, that isn't a real violent image--unless you tell me his head does, indeed, screw on).

Waaaay too early in the morning for Kornacki, period. But Kornacki "high" on bad news for the Dems is too damned much. So maybe I only want to trip him up, enjoying him tripping on his "infamous" brown pants and won't unscrew his head? Better?


For those not following, google Steve Kornacki, MSNBC, Morning Joe (and PUTZ)

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Don't lecture me about not being realistic this morning because Steve Kornacki reveling over (Original Post) hlthe2b Oct 2022 OP
Driving to work I had to turn it off... PCIntern Oct 2022 #1
Why watch him, why watch anyone on cable news other than, gab13by13 Oct 2022 #2
This is always the response, but at 4AM in Colorado, my choices waking up are limited... hlthe2b Oct 2022 #7
Unlimited choices with . . . AverageOldGuy Oct 2022 #11
Yeah, but I'm a news junkie through and through; podcasts & audio books come out on the commute. hlthe2b Oct 2022 #12
I feel for you, gab13by13 Oct 2022 #19
Music. Crossword NewHendoLib Oct 2022 #35
It TOTALLY matters what the oligarchs are saying about the polls. BComplex Oct 2022 #39
Turned him off snowybirdie Oct 2022 #3
'a toy doll' Celerity Oct 2022 #4
He's too much for me. What's his track record? Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #5
One poll vercetti2021 Oct 2022 #6
The INSTANT I saw he was on, I switched channels Siwsan Oct 2022 #8
I just so happen to share your observations about kornaki. Ridiculous and pathetic. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #43
Kornacki is a channel-changer for me, too XanaDUer2 Oct 2022 #54
Completely agree! mountain grammy Oct 2022 #55
Kornacki is a Log Cabin Republican. Always has been. Funtatlaguy Oct 2022 #9
Is he gay? moose65 Oct 2022 #26
Yes. PCIntern Oct 2022 #30
He discussed it on air long ago when he hosted a weekend show. Funtatlaguy Oct 2022 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author AverageOldGuy Oct 2022 #10
Exactly what I was just thinking... Redleg Oct 2022 #13
I think it's a message to get out and vote! Emile Oct 2022 #14
Gotta love positive spin! On this one, I'm with you. KPN Oct 2022 #32
Just vote Democratic, and forget what the talking heads are saying. Better yet, why waste JohnSJ Oct 2022 #15
I saw that, too, and it's totally driving me nuts. Polling is driving me nuts. How on Vinca Oct 2022 #16
Why does this have anything to do with whether you're realistic? FBaggins Oct 2022 #17
There is a certain member that likes to accuse all of us of being unable to accept and be realistic hlthe2b Oct 2022 #18
i thought this op was from that poster at first obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #24
...who didn't opine on this post. brooklynite Oct 2022 #31
LOL hlthe2b Oct 2022 #44
I know my fans. brooklynite Oct 2022 #46
Kornacki is like a caricature of a dad-nerd bucolic_frolic Oct 2022 #20
So his clothes annoy you?? LOL USALiberal Oct 2022 #22
Does that mean that because of something Steve Kornaci says that we may find disagreeable, JohnSJ Oct 2022 #21
I know that question isn't being asked of me. But rhetorically, I'd sure as hell think not. hlthe2b Oct 2022 #45
Exactly JohnSJ Oct 2022 #51
I don't care for Kornscki dlk Oct 2022 #23
He is just reporting the polls for what they are worth. I just find him annoying doc03 Oct 2022 #25
The media reallyreally want you to believe this... but I don't. ananda Oct 2022 #27
The media loves a good "horse race" Klondike Kat Oct 2022 #28
Isn't that pretty much SOP... 3catwoman3 Oct 2022 #29
Encouraging Republican GOTV... dlk Oct 2022 #33
The OP just below this one on "trending now" was about how unreliable polls niyad Oct 2022 #34
These news people want some tax cuts IronLionZion Oct 2022 #36
This is one of the biggest reasons my tv stays on sports most of the time... Ferrets are Cool Oct 2022 #37
If gqp takes midterm will they use their '20 platform? Captain Zero Oct 2022 #38
"It's the economy stupid". This will decide the election. Abortion?? Might influence some a kennedy Oct 2022 #40
He is Emblematic McKim Oct 2022 #41
Don't underestimate women mnhtnbb Oct 2022 #42
If we're behind, it just means we have to work twice as hard. Wednesdays Oct 2022 #47
It is all BS. By the time the show was 3/4's over the new polls show Bev54 Oct 2022 #48
Aren't we better than hating someone who says something we might not agree with? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2022 #49
Stop putting words in other's mouths. I never said I hated him. hlthe2b Oct 2022 #50
OK, dislike. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2022 #52
I directed no such thing at HIM. I said YOUR accusing everyone else here of Hating on him is hlthe2b Oct 2022 #53
You were angry, no? 867-5309. Oct 2022 #57

PCIntern

(25,550 posts)
1. Driving to work I had to turn it off...
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 06:40 AM
Oct 2022

It was positively nauseating and I found myself getting angry to the point of distraction and exited my TuneIn radio app.

gab13by13

(21,348 posts)
2. Why watch him, why watch anyone on cable news other than,
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 06:43 AM
Oct 2022

Nicolle Wallace, Chris Hayes, or Mehdi Hasan?

The MSM is owned and managed by right wing domestic oligarchs, they push right wing talking points. It doesn't matter if cable news anchors put a left spin on the talking point, it's what is being talked about that matters.

It was totally predictable that the MSM was going to push the narrative that Magats are gaining in the polls.

Does it matter what Kornacki says? Vote like our democracy depends on it.

hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
7. This is always the response, but at 4AM in Colorado, my choices waking up are limited...
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 06:44 AM
Oct 2022

and sadly, don't include Nicole Wallace, Chris Hayes, or anyone else. So, I watch the first hour of MSNBC and wait for NPR Morning Edition.

hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
12. Yeah, but I'm a news junkie through and through; podcasts & audio books come out on the commute.
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 06:55 AM
Oct 2022

still, I'm a fan...

gab13by13

(21,348 posts)
19. I feel for you,
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:30 AM
Oct 2022

having to get up a 5AM in LA and drive the freeway 45 minutes to work, go to work for 12 hours and then have to drive the freeway for an hour and a half to get back to my hotel, that was when I was still working.

I listen to Zerlina Maxwell, Stephanie Miller, and Thom Hartmann when I'm driving but I don't think they are available at 4AM.

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
39. It TOTALLY matters what the oligarchs are saying about the polls.
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 08:50 AM
Oct 2022

Because when a huge wave of pro-choice, anti-nazi, terrified Americans hit the polls and cast their votes AGAINST the republicans, all this lead-up is going to give fuel to their fire that the "election was stolen".

There's no fucking way that all the people who actually know how bad things are are going to stay home.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
6. One poll
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 06:43 AM
Oct 2022

Is all it took for the MSM to once again pounce. I DO NOT believe that all of sudden women are pro GOP. That's a load of horseshit and these are the same idiot who claimed Newsom was gonna get blown out, Kansas would lose their abortion rights, Palin would win, we would lose NY house seat. Yet we won them all by huge margins.

FUCK THE MEDIA AND FUCK POLLS. VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
8. The INSTANT I saw he was on, I switched channels
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 06:48 AM
Oct 2022

I can not stand to watch him. His shtick is ridiculous and childish. IMHO, of course.

moose65

(3,167 posts)
26. Is he gay?
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 08:01 AM
Oct 2022

Somehow I missed that. I don't get much of a vibe from him, and I have well-tuned gaydar

Funtatlaguy

(10,877 posts)
56. He discussed it on air long ago when he hosted a weekend show.
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 05:10 PM
Oct 2022

He gave off lots of Republican vibes, not gay ones.
He is log cabin member.
Not a Trumper though.

Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Redleg

(5,814 posts)
13. Exactly what I was just thinking...
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 06:58 AM
Oct 2022

... it is way too early in the morning for me to handle Steve Kornacki's earnest joy with polling and prognostication.

JohnSJ

(92,192 posts)
15. Just vote Democratic, and forget what the talking heads are saying. Better yet, why waste
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:03 AM
Oct 2022

time watching or listening to these people if it upsets you?

The only thing that matters is that people get out and vote.

The reality is it is a 50-50 election, and women and young people will make up all the difference in the world.

I don’t know about others, but I will not answer my phone from numbers I do not recognize.

I am not sure how many people actually do the same thing, but whatever the percentage is, those people are excluded from polls

The issues are pretty damn clear.

Weren’t these same polls saying that around 60% of Americans believe in choice, and a much higher believe in exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the Mother.

Are those young people burdened by student debt that have an opportunity to have 10-20K student loans forgiven, understand who is for this and who is against this?

Are older Americans, though younger Americans should be concerned, understand that the republicans want to dismantle social security and Medicare, and get rid of the ACA?

What the SC has done because of the results of the 2016 election, should have made abundantly clear what is at stake.

The choices are pretty clear, aren’t they?





Vinca

(50,273 posts)
16. I saw that, too, and it's totally driving me nuts. Polling is driving me nuts. How on
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:04 AM
Oct 2022

earth can so many Republicans be ahead????? All I can figure is people with better things to do than take polls don't bother answering when they call. I know I don't. Let's hope there's a nationwide, under-the-radar vote for the sane candidates like there was on that abortion referendum a few months ago. I have to believe there will be. It's impossible to think women would not bother to vote when control of their bodies is at stake.

FBaggins

(26,740 posts)
17. Why does this have anything to do with whether you're realistic?
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:14 AM
Oct 2022

I think the question is whether or not they are.

hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
18. There is a certain member that likes to accuse all of us of being unable to accept and be realistic
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:16 AM
Oct 2022

when bad polls come out. Just heading him/her (and the condescension) off at the pass.

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
46. I know my fans.
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 09:21 AM
Oct 2022

That said, I watched the segment, and no, I didn't see Kornacki being gleeful about the prospective outcome.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
20. Kornacki is like a caricature of a dad-nerd
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:35 AM
Oct 2022

The baggy pants, the rolled up sleeves, the tie a bit loose, the cropped hair.

JohnSJ

(92,192 posts)
21. Does that mean that because of something Steve Kornaci says that we may find disagreeable,
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:37 AM
Oct 2022

because of that we won’t vote?

According to “polls”.8 in 10 Americans do not answer phone calls from unknown numbers.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/12/14/most-americans-dont-answer-cellphone-calls-from-unknown-numbers/



doc03

(35,338 posts)
25. He is just reporting the polls for what they are worth. I just find him annoying
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 07:58 AM
Oct 2022

the way he seems to delight when the polls are against the Dems. If I hear Kornaki is coming up after the break I change channels.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
33. Encouraging Republican GOTV...
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 08:26 AM
Oct 2022

Remember, this is the same mainstream media that gave us Trump to begin with.

niyad

(113,315 posts)
34. The OP just below this one on "trending now" was about how unreliable polls
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 08:31 AM
Oct 2022

are, since so many people do not answer their phones.

IronLionZion

(45,445 posts)
36. These news people want some tax cuts
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 08:38 AM
Oct 2022

and like to claim things are more exciting than they are to get ratings and viewership.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
37. This is one of the biggest reasons my tv stays on sports most of the time...
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 08:40 AM
Oct 2022

I get my news from DU and don't listen to the SHIT coming out of their mouths.

Captain Zero

(6,806 posts)
38. If gqp takes midterm will they use their '20 platform?
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 08:50 AM
Oct 2022
To correct the economy?
No, because they DID NOT HAVE A PLATFORM IN 2020. And they have no viable plan of any kind now.

a kennedy

(29,663 posts)
40. "It's the economy stupid". This will decide the election. Abortion?? Might influence some
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 08:53 AM
Oct 2022

but the economy, with raising prices will be the deciding factor. JMHO.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
41. He is Emblematic
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 09:02 AM
Oct 2022

He is emblematic of the election horse race excitement school of “journalism”. The focus is all on the race like its some kind of football game. But truth to tell, people’s lives and futures are on the line with the policies they choose with their vote. Steve never talks about real policy consequences of the elections or the policies of the candidates. It is disgusting and infantile coverage. No mention of the Pink Wave of women voters that is coming. This is all designed to suppress the Democratic vote. By their fruits you shall know them!

mnhtnbb

(31,389 posts)
42. Don't underestimate women
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 09:02 AM
Oct 2022

We have half a million more women registered voters than men in NC. It wouldn't surprise me to see them vote differently in this election than they have in the past and surprise all the pollsters who don't get how angry women are about Dobbs.

Bev54

(10,052 posts)
48. It is all BS. By the time the show was 3/4's over the new polls show
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 09:31 AM
Oct 2022

the dems in the lead again. It depends on who they are talking to. I no longer listen to any news of the polls, the media will take one poll and try to make a horse race.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
49. Aren't we better than hating someone who says something we might not agree with?
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 09:42 AM
Oct 2022

It's not like he said Dems were horrible. He was looking at the poll numbers and trying to explain them to people that, frankly, don't understand poll numbers. I could go back and search for other elections where Kornacki was praised on here because he was saying Dems would win.

How about we not be like the RW nutjobs and hate anyone who dares to say that there might be a problem? Or not, YMMV.

hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
50. Stop putting words in other's mouths. I never said I hated him.
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 09:44 AM
Oct 2022

Accusing others of HATE is an RW projection tactic. Most on this thread are annoyed by his mannerisms and apparent glee when the tides shift toward the R's.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
52. OK, dislike.
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 10:42 AM
Oct 2022

But there have been a lot of statements in this thread about stopping watching someone and not liking them, so, I don't think I'm far off.

And he's a numbers guy. Numbers and trends make him excited. I don't think he has any more glee for a shift to Rs than he does to Ds. He likes seeing trends and talking about them. How about you don't project your thoughts that he's a RWer on him?

hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
53. I directed no such thing at HIM. I said YOUR accusing everyone else here of Hating on him is
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 10:45 AM
Oct 2022

a very RW Hate projection tactic towards us on the Left. So don't assume their tactics. And no I'm not accusing you of BEING a RWer. Don't act like one.

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