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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMost Americans don't answer cell phone calls from unknown numbers.
This is from 2020, but with all the spam going on, I doubt that has changed much
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/12/14/most-americans-dont-answer-cellphone-calls-from-unknown-numbers/
Americans just arent picking up the phone much anymore. Eight-in-ten Americans say they dont generally answer their cellphone when an unknown number calls, according to newly released findings from a Pew Research Center web survey of U.S. adults conducted July 13-19, 2020.
It also says, those that do answer those calls are mostly men.
I wonder how this poll was conducted?
Polling is a business, and pollsters get money from conducting polls
https://www.pbs.org/publiceditor/blogs/pbs-public-editor/the-problem-with-polls/
Theres a dirty little secret that we pollsters need to own up to, wrote polling expert David Hill, president of Hill Research Consultants and a 2020 fellow at the University of Southern Californias Dornsife Center for the Political Future, in The Washington Post in 2020. People dont talk to us anymore, and its making polling less reliable.
Now, that is a strong statement.
The PBS Public Editors office caught up with Hill to discuss the email wed received from Stevens.
Theres a whole class of Americans who dont answer calls with caller IDs that they dont know, Hill said. If were honest
this is all a complete mess today because we cant really have a true random sample anymore because we cant get a random sample or anything close to that to cooperate.
This partially mirrored what Stevens told us. My opinion is that polling data is generally useful, Stevens wrote in a followup message to PBS. I just have concerns about who answers phone calls in 2022. Poll data does not account that most people do not do not pick up the phone anymore, he added. Who does? And, why do these people get to represent the sum of American sentiment?
hlthe2b
(102,282 posts)Those big surveys that recruit from a large body of those who sign up to complete their surveys for occasional $$ rewards, like YouGov, are able to randomly sample within while likewise being able to oversample on demographic variables when needed, but whether or not they are truly representative given the original self-selection of the population remains questionable.
And no, I haven't answered unknown numbers on my cell for years. Now AT&T antispammer auto blocks a lot of them anyway and I have yet to figure out if some of those blocked numbers are actually those I might have WANTED to answer.
JohnSJ
(92,197 posts)https://www.pbs.org/publiceditor/blogs/pbs-public-editor/the-problem-with-polls/
Theres a dirty little secret that we pollsters need to own up to, wrote polling expert David Hill, president of Hill Research Consultants and a 2020 fellow at the University of Southern Californias Dornsife Center for the Political Future, in The Washington Post in 2020. People dont talk to us anymore, and its making polling less reliable.
Now, that is a strong statement.
The PBS Public Editors office caught up with Hill to discuss the email wed received from Stevens.
Theres a whole class of Americans who dont answer calls with caller IDs that they dont know, Hill said. If were honest this is all a complete mess today because we cant really have a true random sample anymore because we cant get a random sample or anything close to that to cooperate.
This partially mirrored what Stevens told us. My opinion is that polling data is generally useful, Stevens wrote in a followup message to PBS. I just have concerns about who answers phone calls in 2022. Poll data does not account that most people do not do not pick up the phone anymore, he added. Who does? And, why do these people get to represent the sum of American sentiment?
triron
(22,006 posts)Obvious85
(259 posts)Is heading our way, it's already happened
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I just delete all the numbers regularly.
Auggie
(31,172 posts)it's inviting trouble. And more spam.
JohnSJ
(92,197 posts)dalton99a
(81,512 posts)JohnSJ
(92,197 posts)rurallib
(62,416 posts)I started out trying to block numbers and that turned out to be a giant waste of time. And obviously the spammers were spoofing numbers. So plan B is you leave a message and I will decide if I want to return your call.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,368 posts)Because they sure as hell do mine!
I continue to get calls identifying as coming from Sanibel Island, even 2 days after Ian!
I know god damned well there isnt any call centers on Sanibel, much less any that were operational 48 hours after being devastated by a Cat 4 Hurricane!
It also kills me that the person will have a distinctly heavy Indian accent, yet tell me his name is James or something. No, your name isnt James, it might be Jaipal, but you arent James!
rurallib
(62,416 posts)One came up one day from a former boss who I wouldn't talk to in 3 lifetimes.
I did piss off a friend just last week, but he never told me he got a cell phone.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)Probably one reason you get those "mailbox is full" messages.
2naSalit
(86,634 posts)Never bothered. I have pre-pay phone and when I had to stay within a minutes budget I hated checking messages - if the call went to voicemail the caller's # was not revealed forcing me to spend minutes just to find out who called. Not answering revealed the caller # and name if in contacts file. Now I have unlimited minutes but don't bother with voice mail because anyone who knows me will send a text instead, knowing that I don't have voice mail.
Liberal In Texas
(13,553 posts)They never leave a message and the caller ID is just an odd phone number. 2 of them the phone flagged as (spam). If one of them was a pollster I'd never know.
3Hotdogs
(12,382 posts)If it's Ed McMahon with some good news, I don't wanna miss it.
Liberal In Texas
(13,553 posts)ShazzieB
(16,403 posts)I picked up, because I'm cool with those. It turned out to be somebody trying to sell Medicare Advantage plans, so I immediately hung up. I thought that would be the end of it, but they kept calling. And calling!
I didn't answer, but they kept on, and it was really annoying. Finally I picked up and sternly snapped at them "I am NOT interested, I hung up on you the first time you called! DO. NOT. CALL. ME. AGAIN! That time they hung up. They have not called back, so I guess they got the message.
But yeah. 99 times out of 100, I don't pick up if I don't know who it is.
Hugin
(33,148 posts)agingdem
(7,850 posts)pre-planned burial/cremation, life insurance ("it's never too late to buy whole life" , dating after 65, senior citizen "active" retirement communities, buy*sell gold/land/diamonds, Social Security glitch (no glitch!), hearing aids/walkers/oxygen/scooters/walk-in tubs, credit card interest rates...and, of course, never-ending polls skewed toward Republicans...
I take calls from my children/grandchildren/doctors/lawyer/accountant....the rest are "scam likely" and blocked
Hugin
(33,148 posts)"I'm keeping this line open for a very important call from a Nigerian prince."
I don't even bother with that anymore.
It's not like I don't buy a lot of junk. However, don't call me, I'll call you.
doc03
(35,340 posts)that number. Another thing is e-mail I no longer click on e-mails if they are political. They suck you in on some issue
and ask your opinion then you are directed to a page for a donation. I got so fed up with it in 2020 I unsubscribed to all
political e-mails. It got to 40 to 50 e-mails every day; I just automatically delete all such e-mails. I don't want on the sucker list
again.
ShazzieB
(16,403 posts)They're so manipulative! Dude, asking me my opinion on important issues and then using it to try to guilt me into giving? Is not cool!
Like you, I don't click on them anymore.
wnylib
(21,468 posts)I look up the number online. Sometimes I only get the location of the number, but often I can get the name of the business or person from a free look up site. That's especially true if it's a number with a lot of complaints about it.
bucolic_frolic
(43,172 posts)So don't talk to me about polling.
That said, Republicans may have a strong turnout on economic issues, and they will reactivate the obscure ethnic/business/smalltown/church networks that grapevine them to the polls. But so many of them have died from covid.
Democrats must rely on turnout. I think we're door-to-dooring better than the opposition.
Despite the momentum and the polls, I likes our chances.
JohnSJ
(92,197 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)Leave a voicemail, so I can ignore that too.
BumRushDaShow
(129,047 posts)(glad I wasn't sipping my water or you'd owe me a keyboard )
treestar
(82,383 posts)there is no reason to interrupt people with calls - it's plain rude outside your family circle.
The bad connections, the "hello?" "Hello?" and people who talk so fast and you can't even make out what they are saying, on the phone or in a voice message. It takes more time, maybe in seconds, but enough for one's patience to be tried and it adds up over time.
PuraVidaDreamin
(4,101 posts)What is upsetting is that corporate media overlords have their
dirty secrets too and have the power to control the journos-
And the conversation.
Lovie777
(12,266 posts)plus my phone automatically blocks unlisted phone numbers.
ananda
(28,862 posts)And I have blocked a lot of numbers.
The block feature is a fave.
Emile
(22,770 posts)caller doesn't leave a message, they are without a doubt spammers.
bucolic_frolic
(43,172 posts)but they still have to estimate how many actually vote, and that sampling still requires answering a phone even if there are paid participants.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)I even told the pollster, just leave a message and a number to let me call you back and you'll have better responses. Otherwise, I don't know if it's spam/scam or legit.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)If it's someone important, they'll leave a voicemail and I can call them back. Otherwise, I've missed nothing and not wasted time.
mackdaddy
(1,527 posts)I stopped answering my home phone and it always goes to my answering machine. I turned 65 this year, and I was getting over 40 hang up calls a week trying to get me to buy an (dis)Advantage plan. Or the car warranty or the IRS was going to arrest me, or was it Homeland security...
But, most of the last phone calls about "polls" were push polls with the who are you voting for, and then giving some damaging statement about a candidate and asking if that changed my mind.
The only real poll that counts is when you ballot goes into the scanner.
And I have already voted early here in Ohio. The BOE office is actually closer than where they moved my election "day" polling place to. I think we should make much more of Election MONTH since we can vote in person or by mail or drop box for most of an entire MONTH before election day.
dlk
(11,566 posts)This would skew the numbers
brooklynite
(94,581 posts)dlk
(11,566 posts)ToxMarz
(2,168 posts)and am instantly reminded why I never do that!
dembotoz
(16,806 posts)its like nobody is home
former9thward
(32,012 posts)I think it is totally useless. Busy work to occupy volunteers.
niyad
(113,318 posts)I mighht answer is if the number has a local government prefix.
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BlueSky3
(514 posts)and is really interesting. Thanks for posting. I hope the Dems turn the Repubs winning narrative around and that our votes are fairly counted.
barbtries
(28,795 posts)on my landline are "spam risk."
I block numbers on my cell but when you do that they can still leave a message.
I don't answer numbers unless i know who's on the other end as a rule. My landline does not have voicemail so I never have to endure listening to spam messages for that one.
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)The miracle of cell phones is now limited by capitalist parasites using cell phones for commercial sales calls.
Just so you know, unsolicited sales calls have been illegal in many European countries for almost 50 years now.
But, yeah, go business!
Farmer-Rick
(10,175 posts)Though most people now have unlimited calls but not everyone.
I have to keep a landline because the mountains sometimes block my cell phone. And there no charges when someone else calls you on a landline. The spam calls are twice as bad on that landline then on my cell.
smb
(3,471 posts)They'd rather sell services to a few lucrative high-call-volume spammers than serve the bulk of their customers.
The real dead giveaway is text-message spam. I get multiple junk messages every day, every single one of which has an attached link (no doubt leading to a site designed to trick suckers into giving access to their bank accounts or credit cards). I have received maybe one legitimate text message with a link per month (mostly an Instacart shopper sending a pic with a "can't find what you ordered; see any acceptable substitutes here?" query), each of which was a unique message sent to my number and nowhere else. This suggests that it would be absolutely trivial to block text spam (messages with attached links sent to multiple recipients are strictly curated* if permitted at all), and yet nobody does it.
*A delay of a few seconds before sending to the next recipient, with a cutoff after receiving three spam-complaint "strikes" for the message, could do the trick without the need for human monitoring.
brooklynite
(94,581 posts)Every candidate you're supporting is doing polling as well, regardless of what the blogosphere thinks.
JohnSJ
(92,197 posts)numbers?
If the survey is right that 80% do not answer calls from unknown numbers, it would be nice to know how that is factored in
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)... are sufficiently demographically identical to the 80% who don't, that they would be equally representative of their views. Big assumption there.
smb
(3,471 posts)And, since people who don't mind being scammed are more likely to vote for the Scammer Party (aka GQP), that skews the results.
ShazzieB
(16,403 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)That maybe the Ds are not going to lose, even with the POTUS being a D.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)my phone identifies the call as "likely scam". I don't answer unknown numbers either. If they don't leave a message, no great loss.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Then a month later the Medicaid calls started. Now as soon as I hear the click I know it's a robocall and hang up.
multigraincracker
(32,685 posts)I have the number I had in another state and never answer calls from that code. I pass out business cards, so I answer calls from those areas.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)mtngirl47
(989 posts)Or your loved one locked their phone in the car. Or your parents neighbor with concerns.
I answer ALL calls and can easily hang up.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)My phone will identify likely scam on most numbers I dont recognize.
Also, if someone lost their phone, I dont have faith they would know my number to call it. Everyone just stores contacts and hardly anyone memorizes numbers anymore.
If its a local number I dont know and my phone doesnt say scam, I sometimes answer it.
Id say I get fifty or sixty spam calls a month.
oldsoftie
(12,548 posts)its happened to me
drray23
(7,633 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)moonscape
(4,673 posts)number is live and the calls then can increase as the spammer propagates the number.
I check VM and if its legit can call back.
PXR-5
(522 posts)will leave a VM, I check VM once a week.
Then all spam is reported as SPAM and blocked.
oldsoftie
(12,548 posts)But it looks like the "car warranty expiring" is going away
Sometimes I HAVE to answer unknown numbers but usually they're ignored.
Pinback
(12,155 posts)I think they keep checking back in hopes that Ive had an expensive medical emergency that would force me to sell to one of these fucking vultures. Not gonna happen.
Augiedog
(2,548 posts)they have so few friends that they will talk to anybody. Lets face it right wingers just seem totally friendless. Who would be friends with people like that?
ecstatic
(32,705 posts)I've taken part in 3 polls within the past few weeks, and I'm actually avoiding their calls now. They've all been on my cell phone, but here's the thing: I had only been polled once or twice before this year, and it was this year that I just so happened to crossover to the rethug primary. I felt really icky about it, especially once I saw their ballot choices and questions, but at the end of the day I was trying to muddy the waters so that my ballot wouldn't be tossed in the general election (moot point now, since I'm probably going to vote in person). I think my goal was accomplished and I am officially a swing voter in their eyes. I doubt any of these pollsters would be calling me if I had requested the Democratic ballot like I usually do.
I'm also wondering, did Georgia's qOP party sell my info?? Wtf?
mwb970
(11,360 posts)If they leave me a voicemail I can find out what they want and text them back when I decide how to take care of it.
PS. I also don't answer the doorbell if I have not scheduled a visitor. What's the point?
Pinback
(12,155 posts)I used to leave him fairly detailed voicemails. Then a couple of hours (or days) later Id get a call back or text saying, I saw you called. Whats up?
Ive learned my lesson! Everybody and every generation has their own communication preferences. Ive grown to appreciate the benefits of asynchronous communication over the years.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)have rendered the phone almost useless. We get about ten a day. When the phone rings I start swearing. These calls are an intrusion and harassment.
Pinback
(12,155 posts)is a consultant with a doctorate in an unrelated field. Not saying hes wrong, I just wanted to share that tidbit of information so people have the full picture.
Im glad this Stevens guy spurred them to investigate and do a story about this topic. Whether it gets their reporters and hosts to stop quoting polls as though they were weather forecasts based on actual science remains to be seen.
I never answer calls from unknown numbers, and I have blocked so many unknown and spam/scam callers, I lost track long ago. I also delete text messages from senders who arent in my list of Contacts, without opening them.
Even texts (purporting to be) from politicians I like and want to support go unopened and unresponded.
So any survey you see is guaranteed not to have my input, and this is obviously true of many more people. That said, I pay attention to polls, mostly out of habit. But nothing in a poll should be taken too seriously.
It irks me no end to see posts and articles spiking the ball or bemoaning defeat prematurely because some poll says somebody or other is ahead, or behind, or polling within the margin of error, when we all need to just take a breath, roll up our sleeves, and get back to work.
Early voting has started in many places. November 8th is three weeks from today.
LakeArenal
(28,819 posts)If you are a Dem and say the country is going in the wrong direction, it means the opposite of why a ReP would say the country is going in the wrong direction.
Then you have a number like 75% of US think the country is going in the wrong direction.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)multigraincracker
(32,685 posts)One of my favorites is, this is detective Jones. What do have for me. If I get a little silence, I say out of the side of my mouth, "trace this one Bob".
getagrip_already
(14,754 posts)Polls are not what most people think they are anyway. Polls you see in the media are largely marketing tools. They are currency to the MSM. And no, most don't really try to get an accurate result;; it would be far too expensive.
The polls that are valuable are the ones run by the campaigns that have resources. They can do foot polling, and generally can get to the people they want to hear from. Then they can take steps to change the sentiments they don't like. But you largely will never see them.
At best, polls only give a snapshot at a point in time. From that moment forwards, a campaign is working to change people opinions. But that is only if they have meaningful results.
Media polls are only meant to be sold back to the public. They want eyeballs looking their way.
That is what the toxic squirrel steve does. He takes a pointlessly designed poll and runs around the stage with it. He is trying to get people to react. That is his job as an entertainer. His props are polls.
Pollster have been running a scam for decades. But it is a requirement for horserace journalism.
Handler
(336 posts)JonAndKatePlusABird
(312 posts)This is from my phone; Im sure theres a similar feature on Android
LiberalFighter
(50,938 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,938 posts)They have the capability.
Sympthsical
(9,073 posts)Because the cell phone conversation suddenly becomes ubiquitous and clamorous.
You rarely see them when polls are good. But if a poll or two is displeasing in some way, man oh man, we need to talk about cell phones, you guys.
I feel like I've been having this same conversation for like 15 years now.
Dysfunctional
(452 posts)They usually answer that they are not Bob and tell me their name. I say, "I'm sorry, I must have called the wrong number." and hang up. We did that a lot in college.
lark
(23,102 posts)I do always answer any call from a Research Organization, the Dem party or Repug party. I love to give my opinions to the rw asses and see how fast they drop me.
DFW
(54,387 posts)It's usually spam or requests for money, if I'm bored or curious enough to answer. That's why I usually don't answer if I don't know the number. Or else I answer in Dutch or Swedish, or some language a spammer is not likely to know.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)The robo-dialers are all computers now and most of them know how to "spoof" the CallerID and make it look like a local call. But it's really from India or god-knows-where. Why do they even bother with this shit? What do they think they can sell me, to make all these calls worth the trouble?
Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)I still have a landline too. I use NOMOROBO on the landline and if doesn't reject an unknown caller, then I let it go to voice mail. On my cell, I sometimes use Google screening for calls but usually just let voice mail answer.
Maybe one out of twenty calls I do actually answer out of curiosity. Have yet to answer one that wasn't robot, scam, or donation request.
GoodRaisin
(8,923 posts)having to talk to assholes that want to rip me off.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)to you and it is at the border, call this number if you don't want to be arrested. Next one was about owing the IRS, its the CRA here and the best one was that I will be arrested by the RCMP if I don't return the call. They are so hilarious but unfortunately, a lot of older people have been scammed out of their savings.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)the call".
Life is good.