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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy do we allow candidates who won't accept election results to even run?
It seems that, like age and other requirements, an acceptance of election results should be requisite for all candidates.
If you can't lose, you can't play!
Simple as that.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,923 posts)More can't be added without an amendment. Most(if not all) state constitutions list the requirements for state offices and would also need to be amended.
skip fox
(19,359 posts)when we sit down to play a board game, we all tacitly agree to follow the rules.
Why would we let someone run if they said they cannot lose? They have to agree to follow certain finance campaign rules, don't they? Aren't there other such rules about buying votes, etc.
Shouldn't they have to agree to the rules of democracy if they are going to run in a democracy?
Maybe the answer is judicial not constitutional.
iemanja
(53,032 posts)Your honor, I believe my rules should determine eligibility?
skip fox
(19,359 posts)iemanja
(53,032 posts)and each state would have to pass one, and then it would have to pass judicial review.
Campaign finance law doesn't stop someone from running. It fines them if they violate federal or state law.
Sympthsical
(9,073 posts)And say what you will, but the courts set fire to almost all of Trump's claims after the election.
That's what they're there for, to referee based on the rules agreed upon in the Constitution.
RainCaster
(10,877 posts)Just make note of that, when you vote.
Ocelot II
(115,705 posts)but anybody who wants to run for office can do so if they meet the minimum constitutional requirements.
Irish_Dem
(47,095 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,382 posts)skip fox
(19,359 posts)you are endorsed by on the the political parties or you have gotten so many signatures.
Your name can't go on the ballot if it's not your real name.
Your name can't go on the ballot unless you are registered to vote in that state.
Etc., etc.
These are state laws.
Why can't states enact this very sensible law as well? Wouldn't it pass in an election? What election board would object?
If you refuse to lose from the outset, then you can't play. What's the sense of even having an election if someone claims they won't accept a loss?
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,382 posts)but that doesn't mean that it will hold any water with the courts.
The bottom line is that there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits someone who denies the outcome from running and the Constitution trumps state law.
treestar
(82,383 posts)and nobody would vote for someone who says something that crazy.
The Electoral College really did us a tough one by electing TFG. It causes us to lose confidence in our Constitution, and reveals a number of people are willing to think crazily for things to go their way.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Non-acceptance creates trouble, yes, but that is after the fact.
Further, what would you advise if a deep Red county actively stuffed ballot boxes with bogus "votes"?
Would you advise just rolling over and accepting it?
There are cases where non-acceptance of a loss is a good thing but they are extremely rare.
And more: not accepting a loss is a person's right to free speech and THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T INTERFERE WITH THAT RIGHT.
That's why. Answered your question three (3) ways, but you won't like any of it.
Now, non-acceptance is very different from telling a vast Twitter audience in December about J6 "Be there! It will be wild!!" and then on J6 telling the crowd "You have to fight to take back your country" and "I will march with you to the Capitol!".
lindysalsagal
(20,686 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Xoan
(25,321 posts)That's their game.
Kaleva
(36,304 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,032 posts)should refuse to play in any state where political candidates refuse to concede their own losses in legitimate elections. Play by the rules, or else.
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)Agreed with those candidates.
GreenWave
(6,756 posts)That will make us precursors to when they lose by a lot and pretend they won.