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kentuck

(111,098 posts)
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 10:28 AM Oct 2022

Evan McMullin is the key to a Democratic majority.

The Democrats in Utah made the decision not to field a candidate for Senate this time around. Instead, they are supporting Evan McMullin, a former Republican, against Senator Mike Lee, an election denier.

This could possibly be the biggest upset in the upcoming election? Unless Chuck Grassley finally gets his due reward?

There could be surprises that the MSM is over-looking. Their focus has been limited to a few battleground states and they may be over-looking the votes of many average Americans that are simply fed up with the lies and the hatred of the Republican Party?

Evan McMullin could be who we are talking about the day after the election?

If so, it could be an earthquake across the American political scene. Especially if he is the tie-breaking vote in an otherwise grid-locked Senate.

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Evan McMullin is the key to a Democratic majority. (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2022 OP
He has said he won't organize with either party iemanja Oct 2022 #1
But if the Democrats vote for him in huge numbers... kentuck Oct 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Claustrum Oct 2022 #10
He SAYS he won't Jilly_in_VA Oct 2022 #3
On bills, sure iemanja Oct 2022 #4
I can't see him voting for McCarthy or Marge. MLAA Oct 2022 #11
He is running for Senate GreenWave Oct 2022 #12
Brain crashed, you are so right. 🙂 MLAA Oct 2022 #16
He's running for Senate iemanja Oct 2022 #15
Brain crashed, you are so right. MLAA Oct 2022 #17
I can relate iemanja Oct 2022 #18
That's the best we can get from Utah and we should hope he wins JI7 Oct 2022 #6
Removing one deep-red vote in favor of Mitch McConnell as Majority Leader is a huge deal. Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #5
It's going to really suck if he is the deciding vote for majority and refuses, as promised. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2022 #7
Ew no ColinC Oct 2022 #8
Not if he won't vote for a Dem dsc Oct 2022 #9
He is not for me AntivaxHunters Oct 2022 #13
So you would prefer Mike Lee? kentuck Oct 2022 #20
Evan McMullin Rips Sen. Mike Lee Apart In Brutal Senate Debate ffr Oct 2022 #14
The best Dems could do in UT. McMullin at least seems like a rational adult. maxsolomon Oct 2022 #19
If he votes for neither, the Republicans get the majority. 50 to 49. karynnj Oct 2022 #25
He won't break ties in our favor. tblue37 Oct 2022 #21
If he doesn't vote for McConnell... kentuck Oct 2022 #22
He won't caucus with us...but we are winning the Senate. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #23
I do not think so. He said he will not caucus with either side karynnj Oct 2022 #24

iemanja

(53,034 posts)
1. He has said he won't organize with either party
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 10:29 AM
Oct 2022

So all he can do is deprive the Republicans of a vote for majority.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
2. But if the Democrats vote for him in huge numbers...
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 10:31 AM
Oct 2022

..it would be difficult to ignore the Democratic Party.

Response to kentuck (Reply #2)

Jilly_in_VA

(9,979 posts)
3. He SAYS he won't
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 10:32 AM
Oct 2022

I seem to recall that Angus King may have said the same thing once or twice. Evan may find himself caucusing with the Democrats on occasion, on bills that matter to him. I respect the guy. He is honest and a patriot, sonething that can't be said about any Repugs other than the two lame ducks on the Jan. 6 committee.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
7. It's going to really suck if he is the deciding vote for majority and refuses, as promised.
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 10:50 AM
Oct 2022

Especially since we made a deal and didn’t run a candidate.

But I see some of the “strategery”. Had we run a candidate, we probably wouldn’t be within striking distance.

Or would we?


Is he really going to allow Mitch to become Majority Leader if he can help it?

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ColinC

(8,300 posts)
8. Ew no
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 11:00 AM
Oct 2022

He would be the key to showing McConnell the finger but if we depend on him for the majority, Democrats are not doing well.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
9. Not if he won't vote for a Dem
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 11:04 AM
Oct 2022

If we win 50 seats, then it will be 50D 49R 1 no party, then he negates the need for Harris but that is it. If we win 49, then the Senate will be 50 R, 49D, 1 no party. GOP would be in majority.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
14. Evan McMullin Rips Sen. Mike Lee Apart In Brutal Senate Debate
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 12:21 PM
Oct 2022

Lee is not on Putin's blacklist




Takes Lee to task for helping to try to overturn the election.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
19. The best Dems could do in UT. McMullin at least seems like a rational adult.
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 01:14 PM
Oct 2022

Let's say the senate is 50 D, 49 R, and McMullin. Dems control. McMullin is irrelevant.

Let's say the senate is 49 D, 50 R, and McMullin. Then what.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
24. I do not think so. He said he will not caucus with either side
Tue Oct 18, 2022, 02:52 PM
Oct 2022

Let's say he wins and the Republicans get 50 seats. They STILL get the majority because with the Republicans at 50 and the Democrats at 49, there is not a tie for Harris to break. It is the same as if Lee won.

Note that if he wins and the Republicans have 49 without him. The only difference is that again there is no tie for Harris to break. We win 50 to 49.

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