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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWill you be disappointed if Trump is not indicted?
How much so?
What will you do if he is not indicted?
Will you work doubly hard to make sure Republicans do not win?
What will be your reaction?
Have you thought of this possibility?
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)I doubt anything happens to him. Shit floats to the top
Justice matters.
(6,943 posts)WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Democracy, as in government of, by and for the people, never did exist and never can if it depends on the will of the majority AND justice together infallibly prevailing. Ridiculous to even imagine.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)'exonerated'...does he deserve to be indicted? Oh yes, he does...I think Georgia or the classified documents are the best bets for winning a conviction. I doubt you will ever prove beyond a reasonable doubt insurrection or sedition.
doc03
(35,382 posts)debm55
(25,453 posts)Response to doc03 (Reply #4)
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Deuxcents
(16,351 posts)Bluethroughu
(5,201 posts)Completely.
Go on living in this short lived unequal Democracy.
If the Republicans are able to aid an insurrection with
impunity, what kind of Country of laws do we even have? It will prove to no longer be a nation of laws and they've made it quite clear election law need not be part of their dictatorship.
Disgust.
Yes.
Happy Hoosier
(7,395 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,286 posts)walkingman
(7,669 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)Give the devil no place and let him flee from us. If only FOX talks about him and his antics it will be like he is in jail. out of sight, out of mind.
debm55
(25,453 posts)Am so sick of him and Maggie H,
sprinkleeninow
(20,267 posts)edhopper
(33,625 posts)what little faith I have in this country.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Seriously. It's not as if all the problems that torment those who long to have something to believe in won't still exist. We have years of anxiety and battle ahead before we can stabilize to what we once had, and how much faith were you able to have in that?
It's fall. Great time to take up growing and breeding tulips.
edhopper
(33,625 posts)about the fate of our country. It's not that we shouldn't fight for the good, it's that I don't know who will win between the light and the darkness. And way too many Americans are supporting the dark side.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I've lost trust in, but a signficant portion of its people. Who knew so many nice people would become almost nihilistically destructive, jettisoning decency, honesty and even basic common sense? I'd read about authoritarianism but thought the culture we all grew up in would provide stronger protection, the many blessings of an advanced liberal democracy something to believe in.
According to some research, good times tend to produce inferior subsequent generations. Maybe that's it? If worse comes to worst, maybe we can decide to have faith that some seriously bad times will stimulate nature to up our game.
In any case, we're not the first ones to become amazed that, in spite of so much sorry human material, some have managed to keep democracies going. Our turn up.
edhopper
(33,625 posts)but that those in charge of that system will follow any of it's tenets. By in charge I mean the GOP. For the Dems not to do what they can to stop it now falls under the heading of "The best lack all conviction"
But in the end it falls on not enough people choosing to save our democracy.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)edhopper
(33,625 posts)that Justice is dead and that , as I said above, show that America is turning to the dark.
RockRaven
(15,013 posts)I would not call my thoughts on TFG possibly being indicted either "hopes" or "expectations"...
So, disappointed? Nah. That does capture it.
I would consider it a flagrant injustice. Those are rather expected, and I have little hope for their absence.
I just want him to go away. Revenge is not going to help me. I want he and his followers gone. I don't think putting him in jail necessarily does that.
Joinfortmill
(14,467 posts)I will be angry
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)Mz Pip
(27,453 posts)But not surprised
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,902 posts)I have long complained that Richard Nixon should have died in jail. Instead, he lived free, and somehow, bizarrely, became an elder statesman. That should not have happened.
And think about this: when Trump dies, he'll get a state funeral. How awful is that? My cat is more deserving of a state funeral.
J_William_Ryan
(1,758 posts)No.
After 2016 my capacity and ability for disappointment was extinguished.
One of the benefits of being an eternal pessimist is to never experience disappointment.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,676 posts)that man did so much damage.
The next person who tries the crap TFG did, will be smarter and less scared when breaking the law.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)I doubt there will be one before the elections. And if they go badly even less chance after if any.
How I feel about it, one thing I think is that not having him and others have true accountability will destroy what is left of the country.
patricia92243
(12,603 posts)sickening.
GoodRaisin
(8,929 posts)a dictatorship.
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)I think the only way Merrick Garland will NOT indict Trump on criminal charges is if he sincerely doubts prosecutors can win the case(s) in court.
What disappoints and discourages me more than anything is that Trump is still regarded as a hero and great leader by tens of millions of American voters.
While it is extremely important that justice is served and the rule of law upheld, what happens to Trump personally is less important.
The real danger is in the hearts and minds of Americans who eagerly support a creature like Donald Trump.
msfiddlestix
(7,286 posts)to accept that ultimate reality of no serious consequences. A bone will be thrown, minor charge(s) with light financial costs perhaps.
Emile
(22,945 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)If he is not indicted?
Emile
(22,945 posts)before the next election following it could hurt democrats gotv effort. Hope not, but it is a big possibility.
Johonny
(20,890 posts)I mean seriously the dude has acted like a mob boss his whole life. He's guilty, just indict him already.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)I dont believe he will be. I also believe that when history looks back on this time frame, it will be the real turning point where America became a dictatorship instead of having freedoms.
I believe that Trump is deranged and I believe he is a clear and present danger to our way life.
Im not sure that I believe that the majority of Dems have taken this threat as seriously as I think they should have taken it, and when they realize it, it will be too late. I dont want apologies after the fact. I want action to keep Trump from causing more damage.
And to anyone who wishes to reply about the doom and gloom of my response, I would pre-emptively say, dont bother. I see nothing right happening right now to keep the scenario I fear from materializing. If it does not materialize, I still have the ability to say I was wrong and be happy that a disaster is averted. But we dont know yet what is actually going to happen.
JCMach1
(27,574 posts)Sadly, that closer to where we are headed if we lose the midterms.