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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:14 PM Oct 2022

Women aren't still so mad going into the election...WHAT?

They've "gotten over it," according to the MSM. Like we're going to accept Dobbs and that's the end of it.

DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?

Please tell me, again, how I, lifelong Dem, militantly pro-choice, who always votes, has in any way whatsoever, gotten over this affront to humanity? Who says my vote now and always will have Dobbs front of mind in any election, national, state or local.

I am so proud of our governor, Ned Lamont, along with our state lege, is doing what we can do as a state to help women seeking abortion care in CT.

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Women aren't still so mad going into the election...WHAT? (Original Post) CTyankee Oct 2022 OP
Bullshit. spanone Oct 2022 #1
I was going 'Horseshit" but MOMFUDSKI Oct 2022 #7
I'll second your Horseshit....!!! spanone Oct 2022 #8
Or ligershit, for a change. dchill Oct 2022 #23
Chickenshit airplaneman Oct 2022 #24
Thomson's Gazelle Shit Effete Snob Oct 2022 #38
Spew from some man? WhiteTara Oct 2022 #2
Definitely spew from a bunch of men Warpy Oct 2022 #13
Women there are are definitely in a minority group WhiteTara Oct 2022 #26
Not just Georgia ... NC, MI, PA, etc. Sky Jewels Oct 2022 #16
Do you think men are different in any of those states? WhiteTara Oct 2022 #27
I mean that turnout in those states suggests Roe/Dobbs is Sky Jewels Oct 2022 #30
Only a fucking moron believes this. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #3
never forget... the MSM lapfog_1 Oct 2022 #4
100% right! All these talking heads are doing is sacrificing our... dchill Oct 2022 #28
Mansplaining central scrutinizer Oct 2022 #5
No. I don't believe it at all. ananda Oct 2022 #6
No, not true. Not what my friends are saying. F'ing liars. Biophilic Oct 2022 #9
Fuck yeah, I'm with you, Sister! intheflow Oct 2022 #10
It's a GOP hope and wish....not reality ashredux Oct 2022 #11
I would just add maxrandb Oct 2022 #17
And as an earlier meme/graphic said... Women are reminded every month of what is as stake! liberalla Oct 2022 #12
at least women under 50. carpetbagger Oct 2022 #44
They don't think of daughters, granddaughters. Incredible. catrose Oct 2022 #48
They enjoy denying global warming when they know it's true. carpetbagger Oct 2022 #51
It's sure motivating to this 73 year old wryter2000 Oct 2022 #49
I said it once, and I'll say it again. Efilroft Sul Oct 2022 #60
hold my GD F***N beer Marthe48 Oct 2022 #14
NO. That is wishful thinking on their part. Sky Jewels Oct 2022 #15
NO! Rebl2 Oct 2022 #18
MSM ssems to be in bordeline collusion with GOP. Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #19
MSM telling us what's important to women and what's not... MontanaMama Oct 2022 #20
I would take out the "Kinda" in your post. Sky Jewels Oct 2022 #36
You're 200% correct. n/t MontanaMama Oct 2022 #47
MSM is focusing on one very flawed poll mcar Oct 2022 #21
Sounds like a bunch of guys trying to wag the dog NullTuples Oct 2022 #22
"One poll can't show that the 'Dobbs Effect' is gone" mcar Oct 2022 #25
As a man, a father, a husband, a son, and a brother, I'm not over it. Pepsidog Oct 2022 #29
Give me a fucking break. we can do it Oct 2022 #31
i will never get over it , never . never. AllaN01Bear Oct 2022 #32
I was going to post some epic eye roll gifs. ShazzieB Oct 2022 #33
The question is whether enough people will make abortion a voting issue. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2022 #34
The MSM media is peddling utter bullshit on this issue! Texin Oct 2022 #35
Same. Sky Jewels Oct 2022 #37
❤️👍❤️👍❤️👍 Karma13612 Oct 2022 #55
❤️🤬❤️🤬❤️🤬❤️ Karma13612 Oct 2022 #54
sounds like they are telling us how we SHOULD feel Skittles Oct 2022 #39
Amen, sister Hekate Oct 2022 #40
thank you, sister! CTyankee Oct 2022 #41
Well do remember... StormKing Oct 2022 #42
I read about an AARP poll that said women over 50 were undecided. WTELF! What's to decide? catrose Oct 2022 #43
My sister... StormKing Oct 2022 #52
Well, I say BULLSHIT to that! Any woman younger by a few months than I Texin Oct 2022 #59
I think that talking point came from a man Qutzupalotl Oct 2022 #45
It's the more moderate Rs not the Ds. Needed to be constantly reminded. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2022 #46
I do but then they respond "Abortion's not the only issue..." CTyankee Oct 2022 #50
Can't win haha. I was really talking about my republican Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2022 #53
A " lifelong Dem, militantly pro-choice, who always votes," isn't the average voter... brooklynite Oct 2022 #56
Exactly. My mental model of the behavior of many voters is not a pretty picture Silent3 Oct 2022 #57
I really think a Republican leaked the decision TheFarseer Oct 2022 #58

WhiteTara

(29,722 posts)
2. Spew from some man?
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:18 PM
Oct 2022

Even here I've been told, in the scheme of things it's not such a big deal....not like gas prices. Turnout in Georgia doesn't say yes to that.

Warpy

(111,352 posts)
13. Definitely spew from a bunch of men
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:14 PM
Oct 2022

You know the type, they stand around in smoky, beery groups and ask each other what women really want. It never seems to occur to the poor dears that they might get better answers if they asked women.

I imagine much the same process is going on in the newsrooms.

lapfog_1

(29,226 posts)
4. never forget... the MSM
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:26 PM
Oct 2022

wants a close race and a divided country.

If the race wasn't close... there is no drama... no "news" to cover with 24x7 election coverage.

This is why I can't stand Steve Kornacki... he has to roll up his sleeves and bring out the precinct map and do this whole "breaking news" bullshit to make it look like the election is going this way or that way.

Whichever side is ahead... then the news has to be "the other side is gaining ground... their arguments are winning" with focus groups of complete idiots and polling numbers, blah blah blah.

Never mind that MAGA only makes up maybe... just maybe 20 percent of the adults here... and the broader GOP of another 20 percent goes along with this bullshit... they hold their nose and vote for the fascists because of culture war issues or the price of gasoline wasn't what it was when demand was next to zero.

The MSM wants this to be a close race... and in the world of self-fulling prophecies... it will be close because hearing that Dems will lose makes some Democrats think that it is a lost cause and why bother.

dchill

(38,541 posts)
28. 100% right! All these talking heads are doing is sacrificing our...
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:43 PM
Oct 2022

...country to obey their corporate GOP masters. So now, when Democrats actually WIN, well, obviously, the fix was in because POLLS! (Fucking cherry picked low-headcount polls that "prove" their points.)

intheflow

(28,504 posts)
10. Fuck yeah, I'm with you, Sister!
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 03:58 PM
Oct 2022

MSM have nothing to do but manufacture drama for the ratings. 51% of the population has lost our right to bodily autonomy, and we know full-well where that leads, if for no other reason than the popularity of Hulu’s The Handmaid’s Tale. We are NOT fucking going back!

maxrandb

(15,359 posts)
17. I would just add
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:19 PM
Oct 2022

It's a GQP hope and a wish, with a push from the media to try to make it reality.

It's the idea that "America loves a winner", so get onboard with the winner.

I have no scientific proof, but I would be willing to bet that his "the sky is falling" shit adds 2-3% to Retrumplican electoral performance.

liberalla

(9,264 posts)
12. And as an earlier meme/graphic said... Women are reminded every month of what is as stake!
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:11 PM
Oct 2022

Men may forget, but not women!!

carpetbagger

(4,392 posts)
44. at least women under 50.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 06:04 PM
Oct 2022

Polling seems to bear that out. Over 50 it's not as motivating. Whether or not it has to actually do with fertility of the voter, those are the numbers.

Efilroft Sul

(3,582 posts)
60. I said it once, and I'll say it again.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 11:26 AM
Oct 2022

Any woman who had reproductive freedom but votes to have it denied to her younger sisters, daughters, granddaughters, and nieces deserves her place in hell.

Sky Jewels

(7,143 posts)
15. NO. That is wishful thinking on their part.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:16 PM
Oct 2022

The big early Dem turnout is a good indication of this. We are finally getting real data, not just delusional crap that pundits pull out of their own asses.

Rebl2

(13,561 posts)
18. NO!
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:25 PM
Oct 2022

We are still angry about this, to the MSM it’s an old story. Sorry LMSM, we have loooong memories and we are still ANGRY!!!

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
20. MSM telling us what's important to women and what's not...
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:31 PM
Oct 2022

Kinda mansplaining if you ask me. Once more reason not to watch these tools.

Sky Jewels

(7,143 posts)
36. I would take out the "Kinda" in your post.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 05:03 PM
Oct 2022

It's definitely mansplaining. These assholes don't quite get that abortion access is a forever issue for women, unlike inflation and gas prices.

ShazzieB

(16,529 posts)
33. I was going to post some epic eye roll gifs.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:53 PM
Oct 2022

But I decided to go with this instead.



Because, really, this is hilarious. And this is how I am going to laugh when the election results are in and the pundits on every cable news network except MSNBC* are scratching their heads and trying to figure out wtf just happened.

*The folks on MSNBC will be nodding their heads and saying, "Told you so."

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
34. The question is whether enough people will make abortion a voting issue.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 04:55 PM
Oct 2022

Obviously it hasn't been that big a factor in past elections. Will things change? Or will enough people think, well, I won't need an abortion myself, or I can always travel, and end up voting for Republicans for some other reason?

Texin

(2,599 posts)
35. The MSM media is peddling utter bullshit on this issue!
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 05:02 PM
Oct 2022

I'm a 68 year old woman long past menopause, and when I heard about SCOTUS overturning Roe, I became apoplectic. I'm still infuriated by this decision and it doesn't even effect me any longer. The outrage isn't just about the abortion issue. It's MORE - and a whole lot more about a handful of so-called conservative men all over the place taking this decision away from women. It's about the loss of every woman's autonomy, bodily-wise and beyond. It's about a bunch of male (primarily) legislators in Washington and throughout the 50 states deciding that it's time to put the "little woman" back where she belongs: chattel who need to be supervised by her father, her uncle, her grandfather, her brother her cousin or her husband or male guardian in her decision making and her personal affairs, including her purchasing ability and choices.

I'm still so fucking furious I get worked up even at the mention of this. God damn it! When men can get pregnant and deliver septuplets out the end of their penises, then I might (begrudgingly) give them the right to weigh in on this matter. But since the second a man could actually get pregnant and face going through nine months of uncertainty and delivery hasn't happened, they can all sit down and shut the fuck up! Because, doesn't everyone here know with no uncertainty that if a man could get pregnant and face the ordeal, they'd codify pro-choice in a New York second?

Sky Jewels

(7,143 posts)
37. Same.
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 05:06 PM
Oct 2022

I'm post-menopausal and I wake up every morning and Dobbs is just about the first thing that pops into my head. And the anger washes over me again. And again. Every. Damn. Day.

Karma13612

(4,554 posts)
54. ❤️🤬❤️🤬❤️🤬❤️
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 11:31 PM
Oct 2022

I feel your anger because it lives within me as well. I’m the same age and am just as pissed and devastated as I was the day that Roe fell.

StormKing

(243 posts)
42. Well do remember...
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 05:21 PM
Oct 2022

That White Women swung pretty hard for Trump in 2016.

There's always the expectation that people will do what is good for them but history shows that people will often do what is not good for them. 🤷

I would like to hope they're wrong but bragging about sexual didn't stop him from winning.

StormKing

(243 posts)
52. My sister...
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 05:01 PM
Oct 2022

... was raised by my mother who marched with Dr King and was a liberal. She's married to a Donald Trump supporter and she isn't talking to me because I am not a conservative.

She's over 50.

🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷

Texin

(2,599 posts)
59. Well, I say BULLSHIT to that! Any woman younger by a few months than I
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 11:18 AM
Oct 2022

remembers the day when Roe was decided and it allowed women to be able to make a choice if necessary to end a pregnancy if a pregnancy wasn't tenable. Women have always been used like farm stock to satisfy some man (or boy's) *needs*, then have to worry about the possible consequences of that interaction, whether consensual or not. Men got to blithely waltz away from the consequences of their *needs*, but the women were stuck with with the result. Modern women had to basically audition for the part of becoming a man's wife through sexual competition and by male manipulation (and it still continues). At least back in the good old days - post Roe - women didn't have to face the worry about getting pregnant but losing the part of the bride to another "sexier", prettier or richer woman.

This will infuriate me forever.

Qutzupalotl

(14,331 posts)
45. I think that talking point came from a man
Fri Oct 21, 2022, 09:00 PM
Oct 2022

because only men have the luxury of forgetting about Dobbs.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
53. Can't win haha. I was really talking about my republican
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 09:12 PM
Oct 2022

SILs who say they would vote against Abbott cuz of Roe. People like them need to be reminded. Why to we have to apologize - it's like the schtick subconsciously erodes us

brooklynite

(94,740 posts)
56. A " lifelong Dem, militantly pro-choice, who always votes," isn't the average voter...
Sat Oct 22, 2022, 11:35 PM
Oct 2022

…and not the average woman voter.

Silent3

(15,278 posts)
57. Exactly. My mental model of the behavior of many voters is not a pretty picture
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 12:06 AM
Oct 2022

I'd make a terrible political candidate myself, because frankly I don't respect the electorate. I prefer living in a democracy only because the alternatives are worse, not because I love being at the mercy of the idiots around me.

TheFarseer

(9,326 posts)
58. I really think a Republican leaked the decision
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 12:13 AM
Oct 2022

They knew, and it should have been obvious, if people have a few months to digest the news, most people will totally forget about it because no one has ANY attention span anymore. If the news came out when the decision actually came out, it would be fresh enough to make a big difference.

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