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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWomen aren't still so mad going into the election...WHAT?
They've "gotten over it," according to the MSM. Like we're going to accept Dobbs and that's the end of it.
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?
Please tell me, again, how I, lifelong Dem, militantly pro-choice, who always votes, has in any way whatsoever, gotten over this affront to humanity? Who says my vote now and always will have Dobbs front of mind in any election, national, state or local.
I am so proud of our governor, Ned Lamont, along with our state lege, is doing what we can do as a state to help women seeking abortion care in CT.
spanone
(135,882 posts)MOMFUDSKI
(5,673 posts)your Bullshit works just fine.
spanone
(135,882 posts)dchill
(38,541 posts)airplaneman
(1,240 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)Even here I've been told, in the scheme of things it's not such a big deal....not like gas prices. Turnout in Georgia doesn't say yes to that.
Warpy
(111,352 posts)You know the type, they stand around in smoky, beery groups and ask each other what women really want. It never seems to occur to the poor dears that they might get better answers if they asked women.
I imagine much the same process is going on in the newsrooms.
WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,143 posts)WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,143 posts)a more pressing issue than gas.
onecaliberal
(32,899 posts)lapfog_1
(29,226 posts)wants a close race and a divided country.
If the race wasn't close... there is no drama... no "news" to cover with 24x7 election coverage.
This is why I can't stand Steve Kornacki... he has to roll up his sleeves and bring out the precinct map and do this whole "breaking news" bullshit to make it look like the election is going this way or that way.
Whichever side is ahead... then the news has to be "the other side is gaining ground... their arguments are winning" with focus groups of complete idiots and polling numbers, blah blah blah.
Never mind that MAGA only makes up maybe... just maybe 20 percent of the adults here... and the broader GOP of another 20 percent goes along with this bullshit... they hold their nose and vote for the fascists because of culture war issues or the price of gasoline wasn't what it was when demand was next to zero.
The MSM wants this to be a close race... and in the world of self-fulling prophecies... it will be close because hearing that Dems will lose makes some Democrats think that it is a lost cause and why bother.
dchill
(38,541 posts)...country to obey their corporate GOP masters. So now, when Democrats actually WIN, well, obviously, the fix was in because POLLS! (Fucking cherry picked low-headcount polls that "prove" their points.)
central scrutinizer
(11,662 posts)Women are emotional and subject to wild swings.
ananda
(28,877 posts)Women care.
Biophilic
(3,696 posts)intheflow
(28,504 posts)MSM have nothing to do but manufacture drama for the ratings. 51% of the population has lost our right to bodily autonomy, and we know full-well where that leads, if for no other reason than the popularity of Hulus The Handmaids Tale. We are NOT fucking going back!
ashredux
(2,609 posts)maxrandb
(15,359 posts)It's a GQP hope and a wish, with a push from the media to try to make it reality.
It's the idea that "America loves a winner", so get onboard with the winner.
I have no scientific proof, but I would be willing to bet that his "the sky is falling" shit adds 2-3% to Retrumplican electoral performance.
liberalla
(9,264 posts)Men may forget, but not women!!
carpetbagger
(4,392 posts)Polling seems to bear that out. Over 50 it's not as motivating. Whether or not it has to actually do with fertility of the voter, those are the numbers.
catrose
(5,073 posts)carpetbagger
(4,392 posts)So you are correct.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)We remember what things were lik pre-Roe.
Efilroft Sul
(3,582 posts)Any woman who had reproductive freedom but votes to have it denied to her younger sisters, daughters, granddaughters, and nieces deserves her place in hell.
Marthe48
(17,031 posts)and I hope all of my friends feel the same way
Sky Jewels
(7,143 posts)The big early Dem turnout is a good indication of this. We are finally getting real data, not just delusional crap that pundits pull out of their own asses.
We are still angry about this, to the MSM its an old story. Sorry LMSM, we have loooong memories and we are still ANGRY!!!
Joinfortmill
(14,465 posts)MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)Kinda mansplaining if you ask me. Once more reason not to watch these tools.
Sky Jewels
(7,143 posts)It's definitely mansplaining. These assholes don't quite get that abortion access is a forever issue for women, unlike inflation and gas prices.
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)mcar
(42,376 posts)This is pure BS.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)mcar
(42,376 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)we can do it
(12,196 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,432 posts)ShazzieB
(16,529 posts)But I decided to go with this instead.
Because, really, this is hilarious. And this is how I am going to laugh when the election results are in and the pundits on every cable news network except MSNBC* are scratching their heads and trying to figure out wtf just happened.
*The folks on MSNBC will be nodding their heads and saying, "Told you so."
BlueCheeseAgain
(1,654 posts)Obviously it hasn't been that big a factor in past elections. Will things change? Or will enough people think, well, I won't need an abortion myself, or I can always travel, and end up voting for Republicans for some other reason?
Texin
(2,599 posts)I'm a 68 year old woman long past menopause, and when I heard about SCOTUS overturning Roe, I became apoplectic. I'm still infuriated by this decision and it doesn't even effect me any longer. The outrage isn't just about the abortion issue. It's MORE - and a whole lot more about a handful of so-called conservative men all over the place taking this decision away from women. It's about the loss of every woman's autonomy, bodily-wise and beyond. It's about a bunch of male (primarily) legislators in Washington and throughout the 50 states deciding that it's time to put the "little woman" back where she belongs: chattel who need to be supervised by her father, her uncle, her grandfather, her brother her cousin or her husband or male guardian in her decision making and her personal affairs, including her purchasing ability and choices.
I'm still so fucking furious I get worked up even at the mention of this. God damn it! When men can get pregnant and deliver septuplets out the end of their penises, then I might (begrudgingly) give them the right to weigh in on this matter. But since the second a man could actually get pregnant and face going through nine months of uncertainty and delivery hasn't happened, they can all sit down and shut the fuck up! Because, doesn't everyone here know with no uncertainty that if a man could get pregnant and face the ordeal, they'd codify pro-choice in a New York second?
I'm post-menopausal and I wake up every morning and Dobbs is just about the first thing that pops into my head. And the anger washes over me again. And again. Every. Damn. Day.
Karma13612
(4,554 posts)Karma13612
(4,554 posts)I feel your anger because it lives within me as well. Im the same age and am just as pissed and devastated as I was the day that Roe fell.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)classic mansplaining
Hekate
(90,828 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)StormKing
(243 posts)That White Women swung pretty hard for Trump in 2016.
There's always the expectation that people will do what is good for them but history shows that people will often do what is not good for them. 🤷
I would like to hope they're wrong but bragging about sexual didn't stop him from winning.
catrose
(5,073 posts)StormKing
(243 posts)... was raised by my mother who marched with Dr King and was a liberal. She's married to a Donald Trump supporter and she isn't talking to me because I am not a conservative.
She's over 50.
🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷
Texin
(2,599 posts)remembers the day when Roe was decided and it allowed women to be able to make a choice if necessary to end a pregnancy if a pregnancy wasn't tenable. Women have always been used like farm stock to satisfy some man (or boy's) *needs*, then have to worry about the possible consequences of that interaction, whether consensual or not. Men got to blithely waltz away from the consequences of their *needs*, but the women were stuck with with the result. Modern women had to basically audition for the part of becoming a man's wife through sexual competition and by male manipulation (and it still continues). At least back in the good old days - post Roe - women didn't have to face the worry about getting pregnant but losing the part of the bride to another "sexier", prettier or richer woman.
This will infuriate me forever.
Qutzupalotl
(14,331 posts)because only men have the luxury of forgetting about Dobbs.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)what does that tell you?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)SILs who say they would vote against Abbott cuz of Roe. People like them need to be reminded. Why to we have to apologize - it's like the schtick subconsciously erodes us
brooklynite
(94,740 posts)and not the average woman voter.
Silent3
(15,278 posts)I'd make a terrible political candidate myself, because frankly I don't respect the electorate. I prefer living in a democracy only because the alternatives are worse, not because I love being at the mercy of the idiots around me.
TheFarseer
(9,326 posts)They knew, and it should have been obvious, if people have a few months to digest the news, most people will totally forget about it because no one has ANY attention span anymore. If the news came out when the decision actually came out, it would be fresh enough to make a big difference.