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kentuck

(111,100 posts)
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 06:57 AM Oct 2022

The answer cannot be found between Democrat and Republican.

The problems our country is confronting will not be resolved by either the Democratic or the Republican Party.

This is a battle between America and the Fascists that aim to take over the soul of America.

We can only resolve this problem as Americans. We cannot resolve it as Democrats or Republicans, as much as we would like, or as much as we believe. We cannot desert our Constitution.

In my opinion, we must form the largest coalition possible of all political Parties, Democrats, Republicans, and Independents, if we are to defeat this scourge of lies and deceptions.

I do not believe we are beyond the point where we can save our democracy. But I do believe it is up to the American people as a whole if we are to survive this crisis.

The political Parties are not our salvation.

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The answer cannot be found between Democrat and Republican. (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2022 OP
The coalition you're describing sounds a lot to me like the big-tent Democratic party. Mister Ed Oct 2022 #1
I have been saying True Blue American Oct 2022 #4
Has anybody run across these stopdiggin Oct 2022 #11
There are far too few of them. Mister Ed Oct 2022 #13
when I see the MTG stopdiggin Oct 2022 #14
Yes. In a democracy, it is up to the people. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #2
I don't understand this. betsuni Oct 2022 #3
I wish we had a love button. True Blue American Oct 2022 #5
This is a rescue operation bucolic_frolic Oct 2022 #6
No truer words samplegirl Oct 2022 #7
That's what happens in "It can't happen here". Yes it can. JanMichael Oct 2022 #8
anybody that is voting for ANYONE stopdiggin Oct 2022 #9
This is assuredly not an "us vs. them" proposition Mr. Ected Oct 2022 #10
What would something like this look like practically? Prairie_Seagull Oct 2022 #12

Mister Ed

(5,938 posts)
1. The coalition you're describing sounds a lot to me like the big-tent Democratic party.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 07:00 AM
Oct 2022

Which, by and large, already exists.

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
4. I have been saying
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 07:14 AM
Oct 2022

This for ages.

A new friend of mine at the Y pool said something as we found we think alike.” Why can’t we all just be people?” I agree with her whole heartedly. We have to begin with ourselves and make sure we have the right attitude.

We disagree on some things, discuss them, but the basic theme is there. We rally like each other, discuss what we can do to make us better.

I want law breakers punished but am not going to waste my time hating I am going to live, enjoy.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
11. Has anybody run across these
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 10:41 AM
Oct 2022

Republicans that identify a fascist tilt in their corner of the room?

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then .. ----------- --------

Mister Ed

(5,938 posts)
13. There are far too few of them.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 11:43 AM
Oct 2022

This morning, though, on ABC's "This Week" Sunday morning talk show, it seemed to me that Jonathan Karl did a very good job reporting on the power struggle going on within the Arizona GOP between reality-based Republicans and the crazies and liars who, admittedly, have taken over and gained the upper hand.

Irish_Dem

(47,121 posts)
2. Yes. In a democracy, it is up to the people.
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 07:03 AM
Oct 2022

It is time for We The People to decide if they wish to remain free and keep their democracy.

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
6. This is a rescue operation
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 07:21 AM
Oct 2022

As unpalatable as it is, we need to engage maga miscreants and gaslight them back to reality.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
9. anybody that is voting for ANYONE
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 10:36 AM
Oct 2022

that doesn't have a D behind their name - at this juncture in our political history - is a misguided (and one must add dangerous) fabulist. If this fact wasn't thoroughly known and understood previously - it most certainly should have illustrated (and writ large) - by the events of the recent past.

I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't engage with your neighbors ... Community building, engagement, and yada, yada ... And you might even find a handful of so called 'moderate' Rs in their ranks (although if these 'mods' have any, even slightest, sympathies toward 45 - or lingering election doubts - you can immediately discard the notion that they are in fact moderate, or rational)

But, when entering the voting booth be absolutely assured - that any R (or non-D) vote - means just exactly as much 'cooperation' and reaching across the aisle, as you have seen from McCarthy, McConnell, two impeachments, and the Republican party over the past decade. If in fact there is such a thing as a moderate in the opposition party - they have absolutely no voice or control in what is going on within their ranks. And at this point it is dangerous (as well as fancifully) to imagine otherwise.

Why would you need it spelled out any more clearly?

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
10. This is assuredly not an "us vs. them" proposition
Sun Oct 23, 2022, 10:38 AM
Oct 2022

When it comes to democracy, there is no "them". It's just us. The Democrats and a loose consortium of anti-fascists derived from disgruntled Republicans, conservatives and independents.

We're not fighting on a level playing field. The rules have been vacated by those who wish to render the peoples' voices moot. The only power we have is the power of numbers. There are more of us than them. We either overwhelm them with our magnitude, or remain divided and ultimately lose the battle.

If I'd read something like this 20 years ago, I would have dismissed it as hyperbole. But the endgame is upon us and we either stand united or lose it all. It's that simple.

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