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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums101st Airborne division deploys to Romania They say it's not for training.
Link to tweet
They are there to reassure allies and deter others.
Lovie777
(12,272 posts)PortTack
(32,771 posts)lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)and Constanta is 150km to the Ukraine border... yes it is on the Black Sea... a sort of summer tourist city for Romania and Eastern Europe.
People in Bucharest have been freaking out ever since the war next door started... worried that if there was a nuclear accident that the fallout would be carried by the prevailing winds to Moldova and Romania. Odessa is not far from the Romanian border (the Danube River delta).
At the start of the war some 200,000+ Ukrainians fled to Romania... including a large number of orphan children.
I've been providing financial support for these Ukrainian children (some of whom have returned to Ukraine) since I saw that report. I have a very close friend in Bucharest who forwards the money I send them to a couple of different orphanages near Bucharest.
majdrfrtim
(318 posts)and was based at Mihail Kogalniceanu, the former Soviet air base just to the north of Constanta. That base served as the home for the USMC Black Sea Rotational Forces; the US Army (Reserves/National Guard) basically kept the base running. The Romanians, by and large, were *very* grateful for the US military presence there, as our presence on Romanian soil was (to use the words of a Romanian friend) "two middle fingers to Putin."
I was actually afraid in 2017-2020 that TFG might find a way to end the USMC & Army missions there.
MaryMagdaline
(6,855 posts)all Over Romania and that the US had built a protective shield to ward off Russian missiles? Something I knew nothing about. We do stuff over there in Europe that is never covered here.
Would love to know what the shield is about if you know.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,385 posts)and aircraft.
MaryMagdaline
(6,855 posts)Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)Thank you for the correction. I grew up speaking Romanian...lost most of it since I no longer live with or around people who speak it.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)A slightly better-equipped looking bunch compared with Vlads crowd.
ShazzieB
(16,412 posts)Crowman2009
(2,497 posts)Caliman73
(11,738 posts)That we try to have respect for people from different life experiences is too much for right wingers. They need their world simple.
It IS simple to us though, just don't be a complete asshole to people who are different than you are... Simple.
EndlessWire
(6,536 posts)Romania invited more of us over. Moldova benefits, too, without actually participating. Next stop for Ukraine, Crimea.
Did we not have soldiers in Romania in June? Wouldn't that have been the first time in 80 years? But, certainly the most in 80 years...4,700? Highly trained troops. Two days ago...Putin can't be liking this...
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)A little dated, but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_presence_in_Transnistria
EndlessWire
(6,536 posts)their own little breakaway region, where about 1,500 Russians are occupying that edge area.
But, the rest of Moldova is not keen to become Russian. Moldova has provisions in its constitution to remain neutral...or something like that. But, that hasn't stopped them from applying for EU membership, something that Russia can't be happy about. So, having thousands of US troops, along with Romanians, can't be all bad for Moldova. We won't be looking to annex anybody...
blue-wave
(4,356 posts)response to this?.....
UK says Russian aircraft fired missile near British spy plane over Black Sea
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-defence-minister-wallace-russian-aircraft-fired-missile-near-british-plane-2022-10-20/
EndlessWire
(6,536 posts)Russia sank and damaged NATO shipping, and we did nothing. I don't think that we will have WW3 over this.
But, Ukraine is fast approaching the moment when it fights for Crimea. I think it is more because Romania asked for more troops to be present rather than any other provocation. It seems like a good bet in view of the pace of the Ukraine war and what's coming up.
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Hekate
(90,708 posts)IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)dude should just skip to the bunker suicide and get it over with.
Evolve Dammit
(16,736 posts)but millions hate his dark, sadistic ass all around him. Navalny (twice poisoned) could lead Russia out of this.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Very competent folks; they're stationed at Fort Campbell.
Glad they'll be. They'll be a deterrent Putin.
Enter stage left
(3,396 posts)Death from above!
demosincebirth
(12,537 posts)Enter stage left
(3,396 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,385 posts)Ooh Rah.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,627 posts)WarGamer
(12,445 posts)Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)orangecrush
(19,570 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)sir pball
(4,742 posts)They're the major operator of F-22s, if we start moving those to Europe I'll start to sketch out.
Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)sir pball
(4,742 posts)That's not posturing, even a mere 12 Raptors (plus AWACS) are a serious threat to air control over Ukraine. For all their cost overruns and technical issues, those jets are the finest old-fashioned "if it's flying and it's not friendly shoot it down" air superiority fighters ever built, no question. The absolute best Russia can respond with, Mig-29s and Su-30s, are simply incapable of countering them.
Is it bad to say "me likey"?
Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)It's a Good Thing
Methinks those are mostly for show, and I can believe the rest of the gaggle is not far behind.
sir pball
(4,742 posts)So, if we have 12 there and almost 100 more to follow
we can theoretically take out the entirety of Russia's air force.
Call me a warmonger but I have always liked having the best weaponry.
Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)I'd sure love to see Ukraine acquire a herd of A-10 Warthogs with an inexhaustible supply of ammunition.