'It's barbaric,' says Austin woman denied care as pregnancy unraveled

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Amanda Zurawski was losing her baby. Nothing would change that.

Still, she had to wait three days to become sick enough, under Texas law, for doctors to intervene.

At that point, under anti-abortion laws championed by Texas politicians who call themselves pro-life, Zurawski faced the risk of dying.

“Having to sit with that knowledge that you're going to lose the baby that you had worked so hard for is difficult enough,” said Zurawski, who went public this week with the ordeal she and her husband experienced in August. “And then being told, ‘Oh, we can't do anything to help you until you're incredibly sick,’ I mean, it's barbaric.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/grumet-barbaric-says-austin-woman-120317697.html

[Biophilic]

1. And I wonder how she voted last time and how she'll vote this time.

[Hekate]

2. Is that relevant to her going public with this information now?

[Biophilic]

5. Because I've heard too many stories about individual woman being surprised by what is happening.

They didn’t think it actually pertained to THEM. Shocker. So, yes, I think it matters these days.

[LisaL]

7. Austin is a very blue part of TX.

Over 70 % of Travis county (Austin) voted for Biden. But that's neither here nor there.

[Hekate]

9. For some people...

…self-righteous revenge takes precedence. That poster knows zilch about the woman who was told to just go ahead and die.

[jaxexpat]

36. I get what you're saying. Still,

there's some point to the question in that the fact remains. To stop the madness those who voted for it will need to change in order to stop it.

[JustAnotherGen]

37. I'm not self-righteous - but I am asking the same question

I've been in that woman's shoes - and my husband was able to advocate for me.

We knocked on doors out of state Philly Exurb) on Sunday afternoon. He's a new American and voting in his first USA election. When he speaks right to body autonomy, and right to privacy - he goes directly in on decisions he had to make for me not once - but twice.

We are very close - and we are of one mind in this situation . . . I hope people vote science this election - because voting 'isms' last few elections - made America Suck.

[calimary]

17. I agree. Until/Unless it happens to them, they often don't give a damn.

YEAH, shocker.

Shouldn’t be. It’d been CRYSTAL clear, and for a LONG time.

[paleotn]

11. Absolutely.

One tends to reap what one sows. Not always, and I hope that's not the case here, but many times it is. Reminds me of Covid crashers.

[maxrandb]

29. We'd better hurry up and understand

that, with the threats our country faces from the GQP, how one votes, or voted is about all that is relevant these days.

[Dorian Gray]

28. Regardless

she's sounding the alarm now, which is a good thing. She's taking something awful that happened to her and is letting society know to warn them.

I wouldn't wish this on any woman.

[LisaM]

34. 35-year old tech workers in Austin probably are blue voters.

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What interests me is if this will affect a wider circle of their family and friends, especially those in Texas. I would hope no one related to her or her husband would vote for a Republican, at least this election.

[Dorian Gray]

39. sadly

as life has seemed to show us the last few years, only immediate family and friends will be moved by this. Everyone else will stick their heads in the sand.

It's really frustrating. People are so tribalistic that they'll just run with something that could potentially hurt themselves or a loved one immensely. They only care when it affects themselves.

(It's true of gun violence. And it'll be true with women's health care.)

[LisaM]

35. 35-year old tech workers in Austin probably are blue voters.

What interests me is if this will affect a wider circle of their family and friends, especially those in Texas. I would hope no one related to her or her husband would vote for a Republican, at least this election cycle. It's horrible, what happened to her, and I hope it creates a ripple effect of awareness.

[iemanja]

42. She lives in Austin

Chances are she's a Democrat. Is her life worth less if she voted Republican?

[Crunchy Frog]

43. She's in Austin which is a pretty blue area.

Not that it should matter.

[Walleye]

3. So the Republicans are now the Barbarian party

[MayReasonRule]

12. GOP Nat-C Party

Remember kids...

Don't be schtupid be a schmarty never join the Nat-C Pahrty!

[Walleye]

14. Excellent reference

[Grins]

4. "...it's barbaric." Welcome to Texas!

And not just Texas…

[LisaL]

6. Not just TX.

It's infuriating.

[Girard442]

8. The people who head up the anti-abortion movement knew damn well this would happen.

In their view,, the people who suffer and die are just cannon fodder for the cause.

[TexasBushwhacker]

16. God's will!

[ENO in 2024]

10. Thanks Yo Mama

I adore you. Anyhow I posted earlier and got my ass handed to me for being wrong and deluded. Thanks for being part of the supporting community here. Love to all, MM

[colorado_ufo]

13. Time to move.

There are better places to live.

[SoCalDavidS]

38. Like Denmark, New Zealand, Australia....

[patphil]

15. Actually, I doubt that barbarians treated their woman this way.

Children represented the next generation, and women have to stay healthy to, not only give birth, but raise their children.
Demonic would be a better descriptive word.

[Warpy]

18. Savage Christian hatred of women did this, not barbarism.

Letting someone go septic when it could have been prevented isn't medicine, it's attempted murder.

She got treatment within the window of opportunity, but even when that happens, sepsis is 50% fatal. And they did that to her in full knowledge of the high odds that she would die.

Livestock get better treatment than she did. Livestock are important. Women aren't.

[MuseRider]

19. Exactly!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

33. Gangsters Of Putin merged with the U.S. Taliban, directed by Fascist Oligarch eXtremists.

God works in misogynistic ways.

Roe, Roe, Roe your vote
against theocracy!
Republicans revoke your rights
and kill democracy!

THESE are the races that will determine control of the House of Representatives:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217272559

Got post-its?
Stick 'em up for a blue wave: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217078977

[summer_in_TX]

20. Doctor said that a woman can go from okay to dead in 30 minutes

from sepsis. In Texas they can be charged with a felony AND face a steep fine if they provide care and it wasn't a medical emergency.

The article says that the couple is voting Dem all the way and gave permission to use their info and confirm it with their medical providers because they don't want it to happen to others and want others to know before they vote.

The wife has had to have further surgery to remove scar tissue and there's no guarantee they'll ever be able to conceive. They were already going through in vitro fertilization.

[CTyankee]

21. Well, it seems that facing sepsis and almost certain death, the doc has no real choice.

He or she could be sued for NOT providing life saving care.

[EnergizedLib]

22. Dobbs continues to be a disaster

SCOTUS legalized torture. That’s the way I put it. Women are at risk of death and we need to vote blue.

People who don’t care about abortion, this is on them.

[Phoenix61]

23. If a veterinarian did that to a race horse they'd never practice again.

Unfuckingbelievable! It’s long past time for us to pack those dirt bags back into the holes they crawled out of.

[Evolve Dammit]

24. Barbaric. Indeed. FU Abbott and all your Repuke cabinet

[calimary]

25. Dare I ask - did she vote last time?

Regardless of whether she did or didn't last time, is she planning to vote THIS time?

That's all I care about, at this point. Didn't canvass this weekend. Was WAY busy at a BIG affair here yesterday that I worked, as a volunteer. Special guest speaker: Elizabeth Warren.
And our local "stars" and hopefuls: Senator Jeff Merkley, Rep. Earl Blumenauer, Congressional hopeful Andrea Salinas (for Oregon's new 6th Congressional district), the local Democratic Party chair, and other local dignitaries. Picked up two "VOTE" masks for husband and myself, and enjoyed the general stuff, the people, the conversation, the "celeb-spotting".

HAH! I just realized something about "celeb-spotting": I STILL do this! Always did. When I was a kid and we moved to L.A., we lived in an area where there were lots of celebrities to be seen and noticed in the grocery store or local restaurant, I went to school with some of their kids, saw them in church, and it just was something I was good at. I grew up to cover L.A. and Hollywood for various media outlets, and most of what I covered was celeb-related, and I ending up specifically as the Hollywood correspondent for A.P. Broadcast, thereby continuing to do "celeb-spotting" til I retired. Just couldn't get away with it and couldn't help jumping in with both feet. By contrast, these "celebs" up here are mainly local or state politicians. Nobody's retired up here that I'm aware of, as far as Hollywood types, but many of them do seem to want to retreat northward when they're not working or need time to themselves.

Btw: I think I once mentioned that the BIG story I covered for the AP while their Hollywood reporter was the Zsa Zsa Gabor cop-slapping trial, and Holy Cannoli was THAT a crazy scene! I fed lots of recorded reports and tape in, every day. Even went live a few times from the field. A little bit later on, I had to go to the AP headquarters in Washington for a few days, and worked my usual shift from there. There'd be the usual friendly chatter and shop talk as well as focused news discussion, all mild-mannered Clark Kent types and news geeks, not an ego in the place. At one point, sure enough, the chit-chat got around to the Zsa Zsa trial, cuz it really had been big news. But big? How 'bout BIG!!! ? One of the guys said it got to be annoying when stations would call in for refeeds of reports or actualities they'd missed earlier in the day. Over and over they called in asking for Zsa Zsa stuff. Either they'd missed the earlier feed or they simply wanted more. The gang in DC couldn't get over it. I thought it was hilarious! The whole story was hilarious! The whole point was hilarious! The "leading lady" was hilarious! One of the craziest, most surreal, most ridiculous, and most ridiculously funny stories I ever covered!

[Upthevibe]

26. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin...........

Thank you for this post....

I think her story and others' like hers are coming out more and more.

[ck4829]

27. If you as a patient are going to be treated like trash, then maybe your money is also trash

[Meowmee]

30. I don't understand why no one is suing and or charging the

the providers for with holding treatment and allowing someone to get into a life threatening situation and or die etc. when that can be prevented. It needs to happen.

[LisaL]

31. Providers are following the law the way it is written.

They can't perform abortion unless it's an emergency.
Until woman's life is literally in danger, it's not an emergency.

[Meowmee]

40. They are breaking the law by not providing care

To prevent death and serious harm. It needs to be challenged.

[dalton99a]

32. Kick

[halfulglas]

41. This is so retrograde. I worked in a Catholic Hospital for a time in the 1960s

And D and Cs were allowed to be performed for a diagnosis of inevitable abortion, which means a spontaneous abortion in which the fetus can in no way live. No doctor I knew would allow this to happen at least in New York State.

[Ziggysmom]

44. So now this poor woman may be scarred internally and she may

not ever be able to carry another child. Also the family now has hospital bills for expensive ICU care that would have not been needed if the appropriate abortion had taken place at the onset. Thanks Texas repubes.

[OneCrazyDiamond]

45. Woman should leave these asshole states behind.

California not only welcomes you, but we respect you and your choices.