Want To Know Why The Fetterman/Oz Polls Are Close?

[gab13by13]

Trump has been meeting with fascist Magat lawyers and they plan on claiming election fraud in Philadelphia after Fetterman wipes out Oz. The Magats dearly want to win the Senate so they can put on more fascist judges.

Personally, I don't think the margin will be that close so let the rat-fuckers, rat-fuck.

They also plan on claiming election fraud in Detroit and Atlanta.

DOJ, Kristen Clarke, are you paying attention?

[tritsofme]

1. Because the race is close...and the polls reflect that?

[gab13by13]

4. I believe no polls, they are used for propaganda.

I believe my poll, I see Fetterman signs where I never saw signs before. There are more Mastriano signs in Pa, than Oz signs.

Want to make a wager for charity? I will spot you 4 points. 50 bucks per point. If Fetterman wins by 1, I owe you 150 bucks. If Fetterman wins by 10, you owe me 300 bucks, for charity.

I believe that Fetterman will beat Oz by a bigger margin than Shapiro over Mastriano.

[Silent3]

17. So the polls are used for ineffective propaganda?

Polls are faked to change the outcome of the election.
But you also know that the faked poles won't effect the election, and Fetterman will win big.

There are some good reasons to doubt the accuracy of the polls. They just aren't conspiratorial reasons.

[Demsrule86]

27. Fetterman has lead in all good polls with a decent number of participants the entire

election season by at least six points.

[LakeArenal]

2. They will claim it anywhere they lose.

Cry wolf cry wolf cry wolf.

[panader0]

15. Keri Lake, Republican candidate for governor in Az, refused to say if she'd accept a loss,

saying only (paraphrased), I will accept a win.

[certainot]

18. and they will use 11 exLimbaugh stations endorsed by penn state to claim it until OH dems

end that shit

WTF? penn dems let these unis support 14 ex limbaugh OZ stations without a complaint?

Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1

someone else tell the oh dems/fetterman - i tried

really fucking stupid this goes on - in fla 5 unis support 20 global warming denying radio stations!

in NY syracuse, 150 miles from the buffalo mass murder, supports 9 'replacement theory-selling' NRA stations

WTF?

[kelly1mm]

3. How would the R's winning the Senate allow them to put on more "fascist" judges? Judges are

still nominated by the President, which last I checked and for the next 2 years will be Joe Biden?

[gab13by13]

5. Sorry about that, you are correct.

Then they will block President Biden's judges.

[thucythucy]

6. They'll do what they did to President Obama:

refuse to confrm any of President Biden's nominations, in hopes of packing more right wingers if and when they retake the White House.

[kelly1mm]

9. Right but that does not get them more judges just because the Senate turns red as the OP

suggested. The worst that happens (albeit bad) if that no judges get confirmed unless President Bident starts nominating "fascist" judges .....

[aggiesal]

14. But those seats are left.open for when a (R) takes office ...

Any seats left open adds those seats to (R) when the WH goes (R)

[Demsrule86]

28. And then they appoint them when they get back in office...we lost two judges before.

[gab13by13]

7. They will abolish the filibuster, guaranteed.

[kelly1mm]

10. Abolishing the filibuster will not get them more judges. And abolishing the filibuster

is a GOOD thing (or so I have been told here on DU) because it is a Jim Crow relic, anachronistic, anti-democratic ect ect .......

[gab13by13]

11. I corrected my judges statement,

never said it would get them more judges, but if they control Congress it will allow them to pass whatever their evil hearts desire.

[kelly1mm]

12. Subject to the filibuster rules (unless you are one who thinks they should be abolished)

and President Bidens veto pen ..... VERY difficult to overrule that.

[FBaggins]

22. You still need to correct this one

There is no need to abolish the filibuster when the other party controls the White House and you have a majority in the senate.

You just vote things down.

[Demsrule86]

29. Biden can veto...but we are going win IMHO...

[SlimJimmy]

19. I must disagree with the DU view on this.

The filibuster has a definite purpose and is needed for the minority party. Since Democrats will lose the Senate at some point in the future, it must be preserved for that purpose.

[kelly1mm]

20. Oh I agree with you for sure but that is not the general consensus here. I do think that consensus

will miraculously change once Democrats do not control both houses of congress. They don't even have to lose the Senate for many here to have an epiphany that the filibuster is the greatest thing since sliced bread ..... no more Jim Crow relic, anti-democratic talk at all .... almost as if it was simply a political play all along .....

[Demsrule86]

30. Absolutely not. This allow Republicans to do nothing and concentrate on meaningless bullshit.

The filibuster must go...nothing gets done with it in place. It is not in the constitution and serves no purpose these days except to give the GOP cover. Make them vote.

[SlimJimmy]

35. And when we are in the minority, you will be complaining.

I've seen this play many times

[kelly1mm]

36. So you support getting rid of the filibuster if the R's win the Senate? If not why not?

[forthemiddle]

39. Why would they kill the filibuster?

That would accomplish absolutely nothing while Biden still controls the Veto.
Just like if the Dems retain the Senate but the Republicans take the house, it would be stupid to kill it because you need all three branches to pass anything.
Unless we control all three branches the filibuster will stay in place for at least the next 2years.

[gab13by13]

8. I feel good there are no takers for my bet.

That is another poll I use that is reliable.

[FakeNoose]

13. I think both Shapiro and Fetterman will win by double-digits

[Demsrule86]

31. I do too...

[The_Casual_Observer]

16. This late in the game they are mostly Republican push polls

[Sympthsical]

21. I'd say Fetterman's leading by four or five at present

What gives me a little eyebrow raise is that both Presidents Biden and Obama will be campaigning for him in the next two weeks.

Two big guns in one place at the close.

I'm kind of sort of wondering if internal polls are signalling something, because it feels a bit unusual given all the other close races we have going on. President Biden was just there.

On balance, though, it doesn't feel like Oz is going to have some last minute surge of any significance.

[FBaggins]

23. Just to be clear on what you're saying

(Whether you realize it or not)

John Anzalone is a longtime Democratic pollster. He was President Biden’s own head of polling for the last election.

His most recent poll shows Fetterman up by two and below 50%. The closest of any pollster other than the Republican Insider Advantage.

You’re saying that he’s doing this because he is in league with Republicans to either steal the election or set up the narrative that it was stolen?

[Demsrule86]

33. He used to be anyway...

At Dow Jones and the Wall Street Journal we are committed to meaningful investment in high quality journalism, data and analysis,” said Almar Latour, Chief Executive Officer of Dow Jones and Publisher of The Wall Street Journal. “These new polling initiatives are the latest example of how we bring our unique combination of perspectives, data sets and analytics to bear to help people make informed decisions.”

The Wall Street Journal Poll brings together firms led by John Anzalone, lead pollster for President Biden’s 2020 presidential campaign, and Tony Fabrizio, lead pollster for former President Trump’s presidential campaigns, for quarterly polls exploring political trends and voter sentiments across the nation. Working together, their firms will utilize large sample sizes and cutting-edge sampling methodology to ensure accurate and objective results, and to allow for in-depth analysis across geographic and demographic groups. The data generated in these surveys will be available for use across other Dow Jones outlets and publications, including Dow Jones Newswires, Barron’s and MarketWatch.

He sold out basically for money...now works with Trump's pollster for Dow and for the Wall Street Journal.

https://www.dowjones.com/press-room/dow-jones-the-wall-street-journal-announce-major-investments-in-new-polling-initiatives/

[themaguffin]

24. they want Oz to challenge the '24 results.

[wiggs]

26. There was no 'there' there last time wrt fraud. I was surprised they didn't plant

some fraud to spoil entire elections...maybe they learned they need to create more fraud chaos this time.

they are already saying they will contest elections perhaps they have realized they need a reason to.

[Celerity]

32. none of that has to so with why the polls are close

[Demsrule86]

34. I would bet despite all the money that Fetterman wins comfortably.

[BlueTsunami2018]

37. I think it's the wall to wall negative ads against John.

The repulsive “citizens for sanity” and Quack ads are running on every channel, especially during the baseball playoffs and NFL Sunday games.

Over and over they play with nary a rebuttal ad, this has been going on for weeks. These things have an effect. If you only hear one side repeatedly, you start to think that’s the only story.

I said months ago when he was “leading” by double digits that this would tighten into a toss up by the time we get to Election Day. Republicans always come home at the end of the day, no matter who the party is running.

Big John needs a good performance at the debate tonight. He absolutely must not give them any material that makes him appear like he’s not in control of his faculties. The stroke was terribly unfortunate and they’re going to use any slip up as a bludgeon against him.

I’ve been a Fetterman fan for years and I still think he’s going to win. I just don’t know it anymore. And I don’t like it.

Shapiro is going to dog walk Mastriano. Hopefully, that translates down ballot. We need this senate seat.

[Initech]

38. Internet and TV polls don't equal votes.

You can vote as many times as you want on an internet poll, but you only get one vote that counts. That's something that the Christian right, Fox News and the MAGA morons don't understand. Probably because they slep through high school civics.

[onenote]

40. Do you have a link to the election fraud claims in Pennsylvania?