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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,062 posts)
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 01:13 PM Oct 2022

Donald Trump will 'shatter' the Republican party if he's the 2024 nominee, resulting in a new

conservative party, Liz Cheney predicts

A Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign would "splinter" the Republican party in two, GOP Rep. Liz Cheney said.

In a sprawling Sunday appearance on "Meet the Press," the Wyoming lawmaker said her party is in a tenuous position and predicted that Trump securing the 2024 nomination would tip the scales toward division.

"The party has either to come back from where we are right now, which is a very dangerous and toxic place, or the party will splinter and there will be a new conservative party that rises," Cheney said.

Political parties in the US have split several times throughout history. Such splits have often resulted in the opposing party taking a lead for some time.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-will-shatter-the-republican-party-if-he-s-the-2024-nominee-resulting-in-a-new-conservative-party-liz-cheney-predicts/ar-AA13kDf4

We should be so lucky.
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Donald Trump will 'shatter' the Republican party if he's the 2024 nominee, resulting in a new (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2022 OP
That would be a silver lining. Risky, though. tanyev Oct 2022 #1
What's his approval rating among Rs? hibbing Oct 2022 #2
I'd say his aggressiveness, and thumbing his nose at liberals is his biggest appeal myself Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2022 #6
The Republican Party is the Trump Republican Party now. 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2022 #3
And we will beat him again, there are 14 million more democrats than repubes. Meadowoak Oct 2022 #4
It is not the number of Democrats that matters. It is the percentage of Democrats who vote. Jack the Greater Oct 2022 #9
We will never let that happen again. Many people woke up after 2016. Meadowoak Oct 2022 #12
If Trump is still alive and out of prison in 2024 Cartoonist Oct 2022 #5
And our party will have to worry more about disaffected democrats than undecided/indy voters. -nt CrispyQ Oct 2022 #8
The rule of law as well. sop Oct 2022 #11
None of the repubs I know are ready to disavow the party. CrispyQ Oct 2022 #7
Liz believes in miracles, it seems. usonian Oct 2022 #10
It's not the Republican Party that would be shattered if Trump is the nominee, it would be America Poiuyt Oct 2022 #13
I agree, the GOP will stay intact while the US is shattered. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #19
Conservatives used Hitler as a vehicle to obtain and retain power... how'd that work out? Caliman73 Oct 2022 #14
I don't know why she thinks that. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2022 #15
She still wants to believe there are enough sensible Repukes left FakeNoose Oct 2022 #16
There's what? 100 Republicans who would leave the GOP over Trump? Please don't tell me ZonkerHarris Oct 2022 #17
I doubt this. Marius25 Oct 2022 #18

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
2. What's his approval rating among Rs?
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 01:22 PM
Oct 2022

Last time I looked it was very very high, they love the guy! The racism is his biggest appeal.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. I'd say his aggressiveness, and thumbing his nose at liberals is his biggest appeal myself
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 01:38 PM
Oct 2022

But point taken. Most still love him.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,021 posts)
3. The Republican Party is the Trump Republican Party now.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 01:25 PM
Oct 2022

If Trump gets the 2024 nomination, 100% of them will fall in line behind him.

Jack the Greater

(601 posts)
9. It is not the number of Democrats that matters. It is the percentage of Democrats who vote.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 01:56 PM
Oct 2022

I would wager that a higher percentage of Republicans vote. Then there are the Independents to consider. It is my understanding that they make up roughly one third of the electorate.

It would be disappointing in the extreme if The Former Asshole won in 2024. That would indicate that he has enough followers to elect him, which would be terrible news for humanity.

CrispyQ

(36,482 posts)
7. None of the repubs I know are ready to disavow the party.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 01:46 PM
Oct 2022

They may dislike Trump, find him "distasteful" as one of them put it, but 40+ years of unchallenged right-wing propaganda will keep them in line & voting for repubs, no matter how vile their candidates are. Cheney & Kinzinger are anomalies, IMO. The Lincoln Project, too. Are there enough of them? IDK.

Back in 2015 Bernie Sanders said that there are only two ways to the White House & one is through the Democratic Party & the other is through the Republican Party. That is true about most congressional seats as well. They are the only two parties with the infrastructure. Can Cheney/TLP get enough big money support to take back the infrastructure trumpers currently hold? IDK. Seems most of big money is A-OK with fascism.

usonian

(9,827 posts)
10. Liz believes in miracles, it seems.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:01 PM
Oct 2022

Asking over 50 million people who WHOLEHEARTEDLY EMBRACED

• Racism
• Homophobia
• Anti-Semitism
• The violent overthrow of elected government
• Misogyny, and
• A LIE AS BIG AS THE SUN

to reject this shameful and repulsive garbage

AIN'T LIKELY TO HAPPEN

I'd bake a cake for anyone who does.



And aren't you grateful not to have to back down from such unmitigated crap?


Poiuyt

(18,126 posts)
13. It's not the Republican Party that would be shattered if Trump is the nominee, it would be America
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:24 PM
Oct 2022

Let's face it--if Trump is the Republican nominee, there would be a good chance that he would win. Most of America doesn't follow politics like we do. When November 24 comes, people will vote for a Democrat (if that's how they normally vote), or a Republican (if that's the way they normally vote). The typical voter will not critically analyze the candidates to see who would be best for them.

Note: I'm not saying that Trump would win, just that our country is so divided, that we can't be assured of a Democratic win. It will be close like it has been of late.

Irish_Dem

(47,147 posts)
19. I agree, the GOP will stay intact while the US is shattered.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 03:50 PM
Oct 2022

It will be impossible to undo the damage Trump, a ruthless cruel sociopath, will do to this country.

Caliman73

(11,740 posts)
14. Conservatives used Hitler as a vehicle to obtain and retain power... how'd that work out?
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:33 PM
Oct 2022

People need to realize that Conservatism is a right wing ideology. It lends itself to the concentration of power simply because of its structure. Conservatism was born out of defense of Monarchical systems of government. At its core Conservatism is about "those best people" being in charge. It is not compatible with Democracy in the long run. It can be turned into authoritarianism and fascism given the correct circumstances.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,493 posts)
15. I don't know why she thinks that.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:36 PM
Oct 2022

He IS the Republican Party now. They’re all like him. There won’t be any new party of consequence. The voters are him. The members are him. It’s delusional to think this nonsense is ever going away. When they win, and they will sooner or later, the country will be over.

FakeNoose

(32,658 posts)
16. She still wants to believe there are enough sensible Repukes left
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:41 PM
Oct 2022

My Grandpa's Republican Party is long-gone, and that's what Liz Cheney wants to believe in.

ZonkerHarris

(24,231 posts)
17. There's what? 100 Republicans who would leave the GOP over Trump? Please don't tell me
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:45 PM
Oct 2022

there's 1 million of them out there, Republicans with principles?
hahahahahahahahaha
what a joke

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
18. I doubt this.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:50 PM
Oct 2022

Who would join the new conservative party? There aren't enough anti-Trump Republicans to form a new party. Like 80-90% of the GOP is pro-Qanon/pro-MAGA.

And keep in mind, Cheney and Kinzinger voted with Trump at least 90% of the time. They support every horrible Republican policy there is, but January 6th was a bridge too far.

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