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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThinking of Paul Wellstone today
Hard to believe that today is twenty years that he died in that plane crash, along with his wife and daughter. Ill always remember that date because it happened on my parents 60th anniversary.
What a heartbreaking thing to happen to such a great family.
a kennedy
(29,675 posts)ran for the Senate, I think I heard or read that someplace. Cant believe its been that long. I was in the drive through at McDonalds, and had just heard it on the radio when I got to the window to order and I just started bawling. Window worker, female asks, whats wrong? I said Paul Wellstone just died, she said oh that so sad. I just drove away.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)And Sherrod Brown. They would have been buddies.
hlthe2b
(102,301 posts)ever since. Minnesota has shown some vulnerability too. And Michigan? OMG. We must all hope those brave three DEM women prevail as Gov, AG, SOS.
And may the spirit of Wellstone guide us.
a kennedy
(29,675 posts)allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)Doc Sportello
(7,522 posts)For me anyway. I always thought a lot of him but Franken's book detailed why Wellstone was such a great human being and public servant.
LymphocyteLover
(5,647 posts)I still can't stop thinking that the Bush admin did something to make the crash happen, given how gung ho they were for the Iraq war and Wellstone was a pivotal no vote.
LT Barclay
(2,606 posts)I had a coworker who recited a list of about 12 liberal politicians who died the same way.
As well as a computer expert who was supposed to talk to the FBI about tampering in the 2000 election.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,434 posts)that assassinations and "small-plane crashes" happen only to liberals, mainly the outspoken effective ones.
Two Kennedys, MLK, Wellstone, Carnahan....
Kid Berwyn
(14,917 posts)In 1999, JFK Jr., his wife and sister-in-law were lost flying to a wedding. Pilot error.
In 1964, Sen. Edward Ted Kennedy and three others crashed in a Massachusetts wood. Two men perished in the crash. Sen. Birch Bayh (D-IN) helped keep Ted alive until rescued.
PittBlue
(4,226 posts)Died during a simple gall bladder surgery when the doctor nipped his intestines. This was when he was fighting to pull out of Iraq.
dflprincess
(28,079 posts)Who originally dissented from the "magic bullet" theory though in 1966 he changed his opinion.
He was not a fan of the FBI and Hoover.
He went missing in October 1972 when the plane he was on disappeared in Alaska.
suegeo
(2,573 posts)LT Barclay
(2,606 posts)Rustynaerduwell
(664 posts)Let's hope it stays on this post.
Ford_Prefect
(7,905 posts)the old school tie.
LymphocyteLover
(5,647 posts)in league with the Nazis and the famous American First movement as well as the lesser known Silver Shirts movement.
Anyway, she actually starts the series with a very suspicious plane crash that killed a Nazi-friendly Senator and some Federal agents.
TheRickles
(2,068 posts)The weather was clear, though police reports said it was cloudy.The wreckage was spread over a large area, not just in one spot, as would be seen with a crash. Etc. Obviously this gets into conspiracy theory territory, but some of the facts just don't add up:
https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Paul+Wellstone%2C+Murder+Of
dflprincess
(28,079 posts)How bad it was was really exaggerated and it was not bad enough to ground aircraft.
If the original plan had been followed, Wellstone would have flown to Duluth after a day of campaigning in the metro area with Ted Kennedy. They were both scheduled to attend a rally up there.
TheRickles
(2,068 posts)LymphocyteLover
(5,647 posts)bad weather. But as you wrote, then later reports said the weather wasn't that bad. So that initial report always struck me as fishy.
Ford_Prefect
(7,905 posts)Another suspicious crash was the one which killed Gov. Mel Carnahan, his son, and his campaign manager during an especially tight election against incumbent Republican Senator John Ashcroft in 2000. It was not the first time a close race in Missouri had been affected by a plane crash which killed the Democratic contender.
Missouri lost Democratic Senate candidate Jerry Litton in 1976 to a plane crash during the campaign won by Republican John Danforth, the Purina heir.
Questions were raised about both crashes but no meaningful answers were ever published.
Small and medium sized aircraft are exceptionally easy to disable in ways which disappear during the crash.
LymphocyteLover
(5,647 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)after he died. Hard to believe it was so long ago.
Kid Berwyn
(14,917 posts)10 years after the Minnesota senators death, he still sets the bar for a politics of conviction.
PETER DREIER
In These Times, OCTOBER 12, 2012
Shortly before he died in a plane crash on October 25, 2002, Paul Wellstone explained why he was in the Senate: I dont represent the big oil companies, the big pharmaceuticals, or the big insurance industry. They already have great representation in Washington. Its the rest of the people that need representation.
Snip
In 1990, Wellstone ran a grassroots campaign against U.S. Senator Rudy Boschwitz, a well-financed two-term Republican who outspent Wellstone nearly 7 to 1. He made his lack of financing an issue by running a humorous low-budget television commercial, Fast Paul, in which he rapidly introduced himself to voters, explaining he had to talk fast because he could not afford much airtime. Another quirky campaign ad, Looking for Rudy, was based on Michael Moores 1989 documentary, Roger & Me. Both low-budget commercials became immediate hits, helping Wellstone gain visibility.
A fixture of Wellstones campaign was a beat-up old school bus painted green and white with a speakers platform rigged onto the rear exit. Despite some last-minute smears by his opponent attacking Wellstones patriotism and religious integrity (supporters of the Jewish Boschwitz claimed that Wellstone was not a practicing Jew), Wellstone won 50.4 percent of the vote. He was the only challenger to defeat an incumbent senator that year.
When he met President George H. W. Bush at a White House reception for newly elected members of Congress, Wellstone, ignoring protocol, spoke out, urging the president to spend more time on issues like education and cautioning him against invading Iraq. Irked, Bush asked an aide, Who is this chickenshit?
While serving in the Senate, Wellstone remained an organizer.. He was frequently on picket lines and at rallies sponsored by labor, community, environmental, and other progressive groups. His speeches, often appearing to be delivered completely off-the-cuff, would crescendo wildly into loud, short jeremiads expressing indignation at whatever wrongs the rally was addressing.
During most of Wellstones Senate career, the Democrats were the minority party. In his 2002 book The Conscience of a Liberal: Reclaiming the Compassionate Agenda, he acknowledged that he spent nearly 85 percent of his time on defense, battling Republican attacks on working families and preventing bad things like oil drilling in Alaskas Arctic National Wildlife Refuge from happening. When the Democrats were in the majority in 1993 1994, Wellstone pushed for a Canadian-style single-payer healthcare system, in contrast to President Bill Clintons more modest reform proposal.
Continues
https://inthesetimes.com/article/paul-wellstones-legacy
Wellstone said he was from the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party. My kind of Democrat.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)TygrBright
(20,763 posts)electric_blue68
(14,915 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,760 posts)PlutosHeart
(1,281 posts)The thing that stood out to me was his focus in listening. He was not only intelligent but his compassion was right there in your face.
He offered to talk with me further on on issue that I had dealing with and gave me his office number but sadly died about 3 months after that. I think I cried all day.
He was an extraordinary human. Rare.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)Paul Wellstone was a great man.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Like a member of the family.
I have a button of him my husband received at the Memorial at Williams Arena on my Democratic Party hat.
dflprincess
(28,079 posts)I got at the memorial.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)LNM
(1,079 posts)He's still missed.
The Grand Illuminist
(1,334 posts)That Sen. Wellstone was murdered in cold blood.
mahina
(17,673 posts)With his loss went the majority. Is it beneath the far right? No.
PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)It featured the Wellstone tour bus going through the gates of Heaven. An angel says to St. Peter, He was always on the side of the little guy. St. Peter replies, Thats what the Big Guy liked about him.
mahina
(17,673 posts)I cant understand how that happened. What an incalculable tragedy.