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Duncanpup

(12,863 posts)
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 06:14 AM Oct 2022

Fetterman and Oz debate

Yes Mr Fetterman struggled because of his condition yet I like I feel voters minds were made up before debate in their choice.
Vote for John Fetterman a kind decent family man who truly has a good heart and will fight for American middle class.

Or vote for the puppy killing grifter from joisey who thinks incest is ok and also pushed penis enhancement cures.

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Fetterman and Oz debate (Original Post) Duncanpup Oct 2022 OP
I stick by my prediction, gab13by13 Oct 2022 #1
I'm voting absentee Wednesday Duncanpup Oct 2022 #3
They can cry foul all they want, PRETZEL Oct 2022 #14
I think you're right BonnieJW Oct 2022 #15
the media llashram Oct 2022 #32
LOL__good zinger debm55 Oct 2022 #55
+1 Meadowoak Oct 2022 #19
The polls showing a tight single digit race with Fetterman leading are "propaganda" brooklynite Oct 2022 #27
We will know on election day. Butterflylady Oct 2022 #44
We always worry, but yes he has a bigger lead than the pollster liars are showing. My Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #53
I think the pundit crowd is overthinking this. madaboutharry Oct 2022 #2
Exactly thank you for your insight. Duncanpup Oct 2022 #4
This is why the most important moment in the debate was the abortion answer from Oz, Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #54
I think that claudette Oct 2022 #5
Awesome thank you Duncanpup Oct 2022 #6
This one line from Oz should worry women much more than Fetterman's stroke recovery: sop Oct 2022 #10
"The Federal govt shouldn't interfere with a woman and her doc! That's a job... Beartracks Oct 2022 #16
That would be Mastriano in Pennsylvania, Abbott in Texas, DeSantis in Florida, Lake in Arizona... sop Oct 2022 #21
Right? Scary, scary thought. Beartracks Oct 2022 #56
Lizard of oz 😹 Meowmee Oct 2022 #35
Vote for Fetterman and don't look back! OrlandoDem2 Oct 2022 #7
Remember, in 2020, America elected the boy who stuttered, not the bully Walleye Oct 2022 #8
Thank You. Probably one of the single most important posts I have ever read...K & R your post. It's Stuart G Oct 2022 #30
I'm hoping that deep down we are all still Americans Walleye Oct 2022 #31
Yes, I believe we are, and it is a simple decision. Oz is a fool & most people know that. Stuart G Oct 2022 #34
Someone should ask him why he is spending millions of dollars to get a job that pays $200,000 Walleye Oct 2022 #39
The answer is simple: "To give republicans another voice in the senate." Even if a "LONG SHOT' Stuart G Oct 2022 #41
I can't imagine that he is spending his fortune because he thinks he can make things better for us. Walleye Oct 2022 #42
Not only in the general election, in the PRIMARIES where most candidates would be acceptable, karynnj Oct 2022 #38
I know, women experience this throughout most of their lives Walleye Oct 2022 #40
That is definitely true karynnj Oct 2022 #43
This!👆 SheltieLover Oct 2022 #46
Such a great comment. Thank you. Pinback Oct 2022 #48
Fetterman's cognitive abilities seemed fine, Democrats know where he stands on important issues. sop Oct 2022 #9
Oz is disgusting MissKat Oct 2022 #11
Of course it was deliberate. Oz is a terrible person. yardwork Oct 2022 #12
The jizz turd of Oz Blue Owl Oct 2022 #13
Do his penis enhancers work? I need to know. Right now. LuckyCharms Oct 2022 #17
Nope Lucky not at all Duncanpup Oct 2022 #18
Damnit. Got my hopes up there for a minute. LuckyCharms Oct 2022 #20
I can loan you a used penis pump. Duncanpup Oct 2022 #23
Much appreciated! Thank you, but I made my own out of LuckyCharms Oct 2022 #25
Dam dude you're like a doomsday prepper self sufficient. Duncanpup Oct 2022 #29
Lots of hot peppers, the warm spices. niyad Oct 2022 #24
Do I rub them on, or LuckyCharms Oct 2022 #28
No, you eat them. . .although. . .I hear that there are some topical warming niyad Oct 2022 #33
The turkish quack was a cardiac surgeon. The government does not niyad Oct 2022 #22
Mr. and I will be casting our votes for FalloutShelter Oct 2022 #26
You nailed it Pup Diamond_Dog Oct 2022 #36
Yes, Pup nailed it & you did too.."Folks in PA can see right through Oz's shtick" Stuart G Oct 2022 #45
I see that Don Jr called Fetterman brain dead. It is on my home link. What a nasty debm55 Oct 2022 #37
Really. That coke head is one to talk about being brain dead! Diamond_Dog Oct 2022 #47
According to Stormy, his father is dick dead.... Sogo Oct 2022 #50
I'd expect nothing better from a piece of shit like Junior. (nt) Paladin Oct 2022 #51
In June President Biden signed an executive order protecting abortion nationally so of couse Oz ratchiweenie Oct 2022 #49
He did? Polybius Oct 2022 #52
No he didn't FBaggins Oct 2022 #58
I thought it was for all federal employees. The MAGAS are furious because military women who want ratchiweenie Oct 2022 #59
Didn't watch the debate but Deminpenn Oct 2022 #57

gab13by13

(21,363 posts)
1. I stick by my prediction,
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 06:19 AM
Oct 2022

the Fetterman/Oz polls are propaganda polls. The Magats must keep the polls tight to use it as an argument when they claim there was fraud in Philadelphia. They tell us what they are going to do, we should believe them.

You bet wife and my minds were made up, we already voted for Fetterman/Shapiro.

Duncanpup

(12,863 posts)
3. I'm voting absentee Wednesday
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 06:22 AM
Oct 2022

I agree they’ll cry fraud over senate and governor race. I’m voting Wednesday the adams county election office.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
14. They can cry foul all they want,
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:28 AM
Oct 2022

Trump did it in 2020.

They filed god knows how many lawsuits, all but a very, very minor one laughed out of court.

But you know what they never did, put their money where their mouths were. In PA, the only way for an automatic recount is if the margin is less than .5%. After that, if a campaign wants to call for a recount, they have to pay for it. And it's county by county.

Does anyone remember any recounts? Certainly not in Philly or Pittsburgh. That's where the vast majority of votes in the state are.

They just bitched and complained for the free press and talking points. And they still are.

BonnieJW

(2,267 posts)
15. I think you're right
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:36 AM
Oct 2022

I don't believe the polls anymore. How can Hershel be that close to Warnock? Walker couldn't handle the job of village idiot.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
32. the media
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:03 AM
Oct 2022

likes tight horse races, the right-leaning polls are just ginned-up drama for advert$$$. I have not looked at any.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
27. The polls showing a tight single digit race with Fetterman leading are "propaganda"
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:49 AM
Oct 2022

Are you saying he actually has a big lead and has nothing to worry about?

Demsrule86

(68,607 posts)
53. We always worry, but yes he has a bigger lead than the pollster liars are showing. My
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 02:57 PM
Oct 2022

favorite liar poll-well actually there are two were the national post about ohio and Pa where the sample size was 596 for Ohio and 750 for PA...yeah-bullshit liar's poll. Some of these pollsters are not going to recover their reputation after this.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
2. I think the pundit crowd is overthinking this.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 06:21 AM
Oct 2022

People who are going to use Fetterman's communication issues as an excuse not to vote for him would have found another reason to not vote for him if he hadn't had a stroke.

People are going to vote for Fetterman because of the votes they know he will cast in the Senate. End of story.

Demsrule86

(68,607 posts)
54. This is why the most important moment in the debate was the abortion answer from Oz,
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 03:00 PM
Oct 2022

where he said a woman and her doctor had to consult political people in her state...Twitter is blowing up and some of them are quite amusing. Jim Messina said on Morning Joe that was the sound byte that would be remembered. And I agree.

claudette

(3,584 posts)
5. I think that
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 06:26 AM
Oct 2022

Lt. Gov. Fetterman showed so much more insight and clarity in that debate than magat Herschel Walker did in his. The Lizard of Oz is a non-Pennsylvanian who knows nothing about that state's problems and he is a fraud, a dog killer and a stupid man who wants political leaders in the examining room with a woman and her doctor. That alone should disqualify him and I believe most - if not all - PA women will not vote for him in ROEvember.

sop

(10,208 posts)
10. This one line from Oz should worry women much more than Fetterman's stroke recovery:
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 07:28 AM
Oct 2022

"There should not be involvement from the federal government in how states decide their abortion decisions...As a physician, I’ve been in the room when there’s some difficult conversations happening. I don’t want the federal government involved with that at all.”

Then he added: “I want women, doctors, local political leaders, letting the democracy that’s always allowed our nation to thrive, putting the best ideas forward so states can decide for themselves.”

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
16. "The Federal govt shouldn't interfere with a woman and her doc! That's a job...
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:37 AM
Oct 2022

... for the LOCAL guy!"

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sop

(10,208 posts)
21. That would be Mastriano in Pennsylvania, Abbott in Texas, DeSantis in Florida, Lake in Arizona...
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:46 AM
Oct 2022

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
30. Thank You. Probably one of the single most important posts I have ever read...K & R your post. It's
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:01 AM
Oct 2022

great...

Walleye

(31,030 posts)
39. Someone should ask him why he is spending millions of dollars to get a job that pays $200,000
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:21 AM
Oct 2022

This is a question I would like to ask all of these mega rich candidates who are financing their own campaigns. I don’t think they’re the kind to throw good money after bad.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
41. The answer is simple: "To give republicans another voice in the senate." Even if a "LONG SHOT'
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:27 AM
Oct 2022
Now....it is a "VERY LONG SHOT"

but the pukes didn't think it would be that long. They thought the good doctor would have more brains than he has.
Oz is truly stupid.

Walleye

(31,030 posts)
42. I can't imagine that he is spending his fortune because he thinks he can make things better for us.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:29 AM
Oct 2022

I think he expects to make even more money in the Senate

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
38. Not only in the general election, in the PRIMARIES where most candidates would be acceptable,
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:20 AM
Oct 2022

The man in his 70s who stuttered beat several very articulate candidates easily as well spoken as Oz, with the additional qualities of being good, kind people.

The choice is actually very very clear in PA and I think most people in PA know what they get with both. I also wonder how the clear enough for you, John crack plays. How many people experienced something like that themselves? Just being older, with gray hair has sometimes leads to being subjected to people talking down to me. It is not a good feeling and I wonder if many people have dealt with this their whole lives.

It is funny that in that way, Oz is the opposite of Trump, Limbaugh etc who signal to the least intellectual of their base that they are smart ... including smarter than the elite who make them feel stupid.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
43. That is definitely true
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:30 AM
Oct 2022

As a woman who majored in math and economics, I often had to cite credentials to get some men to not assume that math would be too hard for me to understand.

sop

(10,208 posts)
9. Fetterman's cognitive abilities seemed fine, Democrats know where he stands on important issues.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 07:21 AM
Oct 2022

If Pennsylvanians want a smooth-talking Republican snake oil salesman, they'll vote for Oz. Pundits will focus on Fetterman's aphasia because it's what they do.

MissKat

(218 posts)
11. Oz is disgusting
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:00 AM
Oct 2022

Mehmet talked rapidly and in circles. I don't know how they managed to get his words on the board. I think this was a deliberate attempt to make things difficult for Fetterman.

This was not a debate. It was an assassination attempt. Maybe he was hoping to bring on another stroke. Oz didn't answer questions he speed-skated around them and then challenged the moderators again and again by going over his time and speaking over Fetterman.

What a disgrace.

niyad

(113,458 posts)
33. No, you eat them. . .although. . .I hear that there are some topical warming
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:08 AM
Oct 2022

gels. Or I could send you a jar of one of my hot pepper jellies.

niyad

(113,458 posts)
22. The turkish quack was a cardiac surgeon. The government does not
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:46 AM
Oct 2022

interfere in cardiac surgery, nor does local government, oz, you WOMAN-HATING slime.

I just looked at his wiki page. Listed as "television presenter" before "physician".

FalloutShelter

(11,872 posts)
26. Mr. and I will be casting our votes for
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:49 AM
Oct 2022

Big John on Election Day. It’s about what he says and not how he says it. He will be a great Senator for Pennsylvania and I hope that paid shill will slither back under his rock in Mew Jersey.

Diamond_Dog

(32,015 posts)
36. You nailed it Pup
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:15 AM
Oct 2022

Good comments here too. Folks in PA can see right through Oz’s shtick.

I wish Ohioans were as smart about Vance but apparently Ohio loves hillbilly grifters

debm55

(25,218 posts)
37. I see that Don Jr called Fetterman brain dead. It is on my home link. What a nasty
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:15 AM
Oct 2022

Last edited Wed Oct 26, 2022, 11:31 AM - Edit history (1)

fuck he is! The Microsoft News was plastered with news about the debate.

ratchiweenie

(7,754 posts)
49. In June President Biden signed an executive order protecting abortion nationally so of couse Oz
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 12:06 PM
Oct 2022

wants it to be a local issue. Women in the military can get abortions. If they are in a state that doesn't allow them, they will be flown to a state that does.

FBaggins

(26,749 posts)
58. No he didn't
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 08:43 PM
Oct 2022

He signed an order that nibbles around the edges in the very narrow scenarios where a president can act unilaterally... but it was only a minor blow in "protecting abortion nationally".

Not his fault. He's doing all that he can.

ratchiweenie

(7,754 posts)
59. I thought it was for all federal employees. The MAGAS are furious because military women who want
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 11:59 AM
Oct 2022

an abortion in a state where it is illegal can be flown to a state where it is legal.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
57. Didn't watch the debate but
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 07:23 PM
Oct 2022

have seen clips. What I saw wasn't nearly as bad as all the pundits are yammering about.

It's clear Fetterman isn't a great public speaker. Like he's done in interviews, he's rushing to get all his points in. He definitely needs to slow down when responding to questions.

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