Kanye West is being cancelled, and that is a GREAT THING.

[Yavin4]

So, when you hear people complain about "cancel culture" or being "woke", ask them shouldn't Kanye be cancelled? It's logically inconsistent to complain about being "woke" while at the same time praise the cancellation of Kanye.

Being "woke" in general, is a good thing for our society. It simply means being aware of, and sensitive to, each other's personal histories and struggles. It means being kind and understanding. It means being a better human being and member of society.

[blm]

1. That's his reward for siding with the KKK

Karma Kame for Kanye

[Fla Dem]

2. It most definitely is.

However even though he may lose commercial endorsements, he'll still have his fan base. They'll continue to download his music and buy his crap.

[we can do it]

3. Bye Felicia

[Fiendish Thingy]

4. I want to see him on Dancing With The Stars

And get sent home the first week.

[Sneederbunk]

5. Now, if only DU could cancel Kanye.

[Dorian Gray]

6. He's not being cancelled

the free market is deciding that he's an albatross around their necks.
Republicans are all abut the market deciding, aren't they?

[Bettie]

7. He is not being cancelled, he is

seeing consequences for his actions and words.

[BlueIdaho]

10. Thank You.

We are all responsible for our words and deeds. Period.

[UTUSN]

8. K&R, if only the *root*/Drumpf and his entire ilk could be!

[Tracer]

9. I may be the only one ...

...who has never heard any of West's music.

I suppose I should be grateful.

[Elessar Zappa]

14. He had some very good albums early in his career (if you like rap).

Then his mother died and he went insane and started making shitty music.

[Lunabell]

16. I hate to say it, but some of his early work was brilliant.

Jesus Walks for instance. Then he went full on batshit crazy, becoming a magat after his exclamation that, "George Bush don't like black people!". How did he fall down the rabbit hole? I have no clue.

[Caliman73]

11. People have different concepts of what "woke" and "cancel culture" are.

"Woke" has a history as a term in the US. I doubt that most people know where it came from. Instead, they use the term as it lines up with their personal and political views are. People who listen to Tucker Carlson have a VERY different idea of what "woke" means than people who listen to say, Mark Thompson or Joe Madison.

People complain about "canceling" when a person they tend to agree with receives some kind of consequence for saying something that others found offensive.

I will say, and I am biased here as a more liberal/progressive/left leaning person, that our side tends to be more consistent regarding "canceling". We tend to cancel regardless of the person's affiliation and mostly based on the message, whereas people on the right will tend to want to cancel someone on the left for saying the exact same thing that someone on the right said, while defending the right winger.

I agree with your definition of woke, but you need to understand that to right wingers "woke" will typically mean = giving undue deference to people SOLELY based on their being a minority or historically oppressed person. The emphasis is on the UNDUE. Many right wingers believe that Black people and women, or LGBTQ people have it better than cis White men in this country. They think that Black people and the others, can "get away with anything" because or "woke" ideology. That is their operational definition of woke.

[Yavin4]

12. We need a well defined, common meaning of what "woke" is. n/t

[Caliman73]

13. Yes we do. I think we have and have had one...

The problem is that the right wing has been VERY effective at poisoning the well.

For instance, Critical Race Theory, a conceptual intellectual and legal framework for studying how laws and traditions have been applied with respect to race in the United States. It looks at the effects of legal slavery and racial codes on the development of laws and traditions in the country and how they are still at play today. Taught only in certain law schools or maybe in advanced graduate history and sociology courses. It is a pretty well defined concept whose main authors are STILL ALIVE.

BUT....

Right wingers were pretty damn successful at defining CRT as anti-White racial indoctrination that was being taught in K-12 with the purpose of making White children feel bad about who they are and distorting American History.

[Paladin]

15. A great thing, indeed. Serves him right. (nt)

[Cha]

17. It sure as hell is.. his Gaslit

Bigotry Won't be Tolerated.

We've seen this Shit Before.