Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

malaise

(269,087 posts)
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 07:19 PM Oct 2022

Eastern Caribbean -This is some serious advanced warning for next week - never seen this before

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

Eastern Caribbean:
An area of low pressure is expected to form over the eastern
Caribbean Sea this weekend. Environmental conditions are forecast to
be conducive for gradual development, and a tropical depression
could form by early next week while the disturbance moves generally
westward or west-northwestward over the central Caribbean Sea.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=2

26 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Eastern Caribbean -This is some serious advanced warning for next week - never seen this before (Original Post) malaise Oct 2022 OP
Thanks, malaise Deuxcents Oct 2022 #1
Reminds me of Sandy. paleotn Oct 2022 #2
My first thought although Sandy formed south of Jamaica malaise Oct 2022 #7
Thanks fot the heads up. HubertHeaver Oct 2022 #3
The Perfect Storm PuraVidaDreamin Oct 2022 #4
Great post malaise Oct 2022 #5
wow G_j Oct 2022 #9
I Remember DET Oct 2022 #11
Why is it "serious"? brooklynite Oct 2022 #6
Because they are advising us about a system that malaise Oct 2022 #8
Click on the Five-Day map... brooklynite Oct 2022 #10
That is the 8.00pm update not the one I posted malaise Oct 2022 #13
Its also the five day outlook brooklynite Oct 2022 #15
Huh? malaise Oct 2022 #16
The default map shows a two-day forecast, which only shows "Disturbance One" brooklynite Oct 2022 #19
Read the OP malaise Oct 2022 #20
I did; still no obvious reason for a "serious advanced warning" brooklynite Oct 2022 #22
Well to be kind, there is no earthly reason for me to take your malaise Oct 2022 #23
I'm not offering advice. I'm question an assertion of a serious condition brooklynite Oct 2022 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Oct 2022 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Oct 2022 #14
Hurricane Kate November 22 1985. I lost power in Tallahassee for 7 days Lochloosa Oct 2022 #12
Hope it misses all of us malaise Oct 2022 #17
k&r n/t area51 Oct 2022 #18
Thanks for your OP. Sitting here in eastern NC I like to start GoodRaisin Oct 2022 #25
Those of us who are affected get it malaise Oct 2022 #26

Deuxcents

(16,263 posts)
1. Thanks, malaise
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 07:27 PM
Oct 2022

Season is not over.. officially.. until the end of November but Mother Nature doesn’t have a calendar. Thankfully, I’m good but my friends are still dealing w/ destruction from Ian .. even today.

malaise

(269,087 posts)
7. My first thought although Sandy formed south of Jamaica
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 07:54 PM
Oct 2022

Late season hurricanes rarely form in the Eastern Atlantic. They tend to form in the Northern Caribbean.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Sandy

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,101 posts)
4. The Perfect Storm
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 07:38 PM
Oct 2022

I don't recall the history and trajectory of this Halloween Storm
But it was a doozy here on Cape Cod.

"Also known as the Halloween Storm, “The Perfect Storm” of literary and Hollywood fame wracked the Atlantic seaboard in late October 1991 and sunk the Andrea Gail. On 30 October 1991, this nor’easter reached peak intensity when it was 340 miles (547 km) south of Halifax, Nova Scotia, but the storm had been building since 28 October 1991 when it killed the six crew members of the Andrea Gail. Oddly, this storm was neither one of the worst in terms of wind severity or precipitation nor in overall impact to people and property. Rather, it was “an extraordinary confluence of atmospheric ingredients” and “unique in its evolution” (Ostro 2006).

In late October and November the eastern United States experiences rapid changes in weather. To the west, cold Canadian air masses regularly envelope the Midwest. To the east, the Atlantic Ocean loses its stored summer heat more slowly than the continent, and hurricanes sometimes form over the warm waters. The contrast between two very dissimilar air masses (i.e., cold to the west and warm to the east) often results in massive storms just offshore North America. These tempests, called “nor’easters” in the Atlantic states, have sunk many ocean vessels (Mcgahee 2008), and indeed, The Perfect Storm lived up to this reputation with the Andrea Gail. In addition to this storm’s legacy in popular culture, however, the storm’s evolution is noteworthy. The Perfect Storm began as an extratropical system, absorbed a tropical system (i.e., Hurricane Grace), and ended somewhat uneventfully as an unnamed hurricane. According to The Weather Channel’s senior meteorologist Stu Ostro, “a non-tropical system absorbing a tropical one is not unprecedented, nor is a tropical cyclone developing from a non-tropical system. But for both processes to occur with the same system, not to mention one of this magnitude, is what made the cyclone so amazing. To me, this was the ultimate ‘hybrid’ storm”"

(][link:https://www.nps.gov/articles/the-perfect-storm-1991.htm|

DET

(1,323 posts)
11. I Remember
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:27 PM
Oct 2022

The Perfect Storm was just two months after Hurricane Bob, a category 3 hurricane that devastated the Cape. I was visiting my family in Falmouth when Bob hit, after perfect weather the day before. The damage was unbelievable. 1991 was a rough year.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
6. Why is it "serious"?
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 07:46 PM
Oct 2022

NOAA reports probability of tropical storm formation. Says nothing about likely intensity.

malaise

(269,087 posts)
8. Because they are advising us about a system that
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:03 PM
Oct 2022

is not even identified on their graphic yet- that is highly unusual. Could be more curious than serious.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
19. The default map shows a two-day forecast, which only shows "Disturbance One"
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:42 PM
Oct 2022
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov



If you go to the "5-Day Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook" you see this mysterious blob that the OP is posting about.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5

malaise

(269,087 posts)
23. Well to be kind, there is no earthly reason for me to take your
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:57 PM
Oct 2022

advice re matters hurricanes. After all, Ian wasn’t heading towards Florida.
😀

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
24. I'm not offering advice. I'm question an assertion of a serious condition
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 10:00 PM
Oct 2022

All NHC is saying is that a (currently) 50% chance of cyclone formation exists in the next five days.

Every tropical storm and hurricane starts that way. Some become serious; some do not.

Response to brooklynite (Reply #19)

Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Lochloosa

(16,066 posts)
12. Hurricane Kate November 22 1985. I lost power in Tallahassee for 7 days
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:29 PM
Oct 2022

Had to drive to Tampa to my Father's for Thanksgiving.

Couldn't cook my turkey.

GoodRaisin

(8,924 posts)
25. Thanks for your OP. Sitting here in eastern NC I like to start
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 02:44 AM
Oct 2022

looking at all potential hurricanes that could come our way as soon as the disturbances are first noted. I don’t care if it’s “2 day” or “5 day”.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Eastern Caribbean -This i...