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Nevilledog

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Wed Oct 26, 2022, 07:45 PM Oct 2022

How People With Disabilities Saw Fetterman's Debate Performance



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New from me: Fetterman's debate appearance was exciting and validating for many people with disabilities, because it's so rare for political candidates to be candid about disability. Much of the public response, however, was painful. 🧵
Preparations for Tuesday’s Senate debate in Pennsylvania. Lt. Gov. John Fetterman faced his Republican opponent, Dr. Mehmet Oz, months after a stroke left Mr. Fetterman with an auditory processing disorder.
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How People With Disabilities Saw Fetterman’s Debate Performance
One in four Americans has a disability, but disabled politicians are rarely on the national debate stage. That made John Fetterman’s appearance a powerful moment, but public reactions were painful.
3:24 PM · Oct 26, 2022


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/26/us/politics/disabled-voters-fetterman-debate.html

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For many Americans with disabilities who watched the Senate debate in Pennsylvania on Tuesday, Lt. Gov. John Fetterman’s performance against Dr. Mehmet Oz was both a sign of how far they had come in political representation and a painful reminder of how far they have left to go.

On one hand, Mr. Fetterman, the Democratic nominee, was in a nationally watched debate months after a stroke left him with an auditory processing disorder, speaking openly about his disability — a remarkable moment for people who have felt pressure to hide their own, and who rarely see people like themselves in politics. On the other hand, much of the coverage of the debate focused on Mr. Fetterman’s verbal stumbles.

“To see how quick people were to say, ‘He shouldn’t have been on that stage tonight,’ ‘I don’t think he can do this’ — it’s yet another reminder of how the world views disabled people,” said Maria Town, president of the American Association of People with Disabilities. “It really does show me how much we use speech to perceive competence and confidence, and we really shouldn’t.”

The debate was powerful, and the punditry painful, for Ms. Town, who has cerebral palsy and recalled falling onstage in front of elected officials and her boss. She said she could imagine the anxiety Mr. Fetterman might have felt about his disability being on public display.

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How People With Disabilities Saw Fetterman's Debate Performance (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2022 OP
FDR was in a wheelchair and was elected 4 times. wnylib Oct 2022 #1
Most voters weren't aware of the extent of his polio condition Doc Sportello Oct 2022 #3
His disability was hidden from the public as much as possible. dhol82 Oct 2022 #4
Doesn't seem to be hurting Fetterman wnylib Oct 2022 #6
Raising a bunch of money is not evidence that the "debate backfire(d)" FBaggins Oct 2022 #24
todays voters know he was disabled then and should know better now ZonkerHarris Oct 2022 #14
Yeah, the US media$$$$$ is Cha Oct 2022 #2
K&R UTUSN Oct 2022 #5
I suspect--and have said so previously on this forum--that many Americans Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #7
Oz hasn't yet explained how we fit all those people - the woman's doctor AND all the local calimary Oct 2022 #10
Don't forget BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #13
The dildocam! calimary Oct 2022 #25
Oz also made a comment about telling John something and John not being able to comprehend what Oz debm55 Oct 2022 #11
That's for sure. Just A Box Of Rain Oct 2022 #19
In a society where appearance is everything Pinback Oct 2022 #8
I just hope the Pennsy version of October surprise is COL Mustard Oct 2022 #9
The GOP hypocrisy runs deep BumRushDaShow Oct 2022 #12
The wing nuts are way too concerned about HOW he said things, rather than WHAT he said. SeattleVet Oct 2022 #15
Proved that OZ was a world class nasty evil piece of shit. The_Casual_Observer Oct 2022 #16
Jo From Jerz says it all Mad_Machine76 Oct 2022 #17
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Oct 2022 #20
The cruelty is the point. Marcuse Oct 2022 #18
Most voters already have made up their mind. GoodRaisin Oct 2022 #21
Fetterman will recover, but Dr. Oz will still be a quack. Qutzupalotl Oct 2022 #22
His Mind is OK NowISeetheLight Oct 2022 #23

Doc Sportello

(7,522 posts)
3. Most voters weren't aware of the extent of his polio condition
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:54 PM
Oct 2022

Or saw him in a wheelchair. When in public he usually stayed seated in a chair or the backseat of a car. He developed a technique where an escort, often his son, held on to one arm and helped him "walk" for example when walking to a podium. FDR and his handlers pressured the press not to post pics of him in a wheelchair. Most had no idea of the extent of his disability.

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/prologue.htm

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
4. His disability was hidden from the public as much as possible.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:56 PM
Oct 2022

Also, we did not have such intense communication available among the opposition.
I’m sure Fox is having a heyday showing every twitch to their viewers.

FBaggins

(26,749 posts)
24. Raising a bunch of money is not evidence that the "debate backfire(d)"
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 11:28 AM
Oct 2022

It could indeed be exactly the opposite.

Either way... elections are decided by the people who show up to vote. Not by fundraising totals.

Cha

(297,349 posts)
2. Yeah, the US media$$$$$ is
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 08:52 PM
Oct 2022

mostly "painful" and so Predicable.

Didn't faze those who sent $2 Million in total to Fetterman after the debate, though.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
7. I suspect--and have said so previously on this forum--that many Americans
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:08 PM
Oct 2022

have struggles of their own, and have experience with friends and loved ones who live with disabilities--who look at Fetterman and admire his candor and his grit.

He's real. And his been transparent about his comeback.

Unlike some, I don't fault the media for asking questions. That's their job.

But I do think that there far more people will relate to John Fetterman than their are who will reject him due to the degree of his stroke recovery.

And the response by Oz about abortion should damage his campaign beyond repair.

calimary

(81,340 posts)
10. Oz hasn't yet explained how we fit all those people - the woman's doctor AND all the local
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:55 PM
Oct 2022

legislators - into the woman's vagina. I didn't know a vagina could accommodate a crowd like that.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
13. Don't forget
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 10:11 PM
Oct 2022

the dildocam up in there too capturing the crowd while doing a transvaginal ultrasound!

debm55

(25,218 posts)
11. Oz also made a comment about telling John something and John not being able to comprehend what Oz
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 10:01 PM
Oct 2022

Last edited Wed Oct 26, 2022, 10:44 PM - Edit history (1)

said. Oz is an ass.

Pinback

(12,158 posts)
8. In a society where appearance is everything
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 09:35 PM
Oct 2022

and slick liars are so often venerated, the treatment of Fetterman is not surprising. I’m glad so many compassionate Americans see through the BS.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
16. Proved that OZ was a world class nasty evil piece of shit.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 10:26 PM
Oct 2022

Fetterman has had an amazing recovery, it will take a while to get up to speed. OZ had the chance to let this go and be a human being about it, but NOOOOOO. OZ can roast in the 7 levels of hell.

GoodRaisin

(8,924 posts)
21. Most voters already have made up their mind.
Wed Oct 26, 2022, 11:23 PM
Oct 2022

If I was going to vote for him or was one of the few still actually considering voting for him, nothing about the debate would change my mind.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
23. His Mind is OK
Thu Oct 27, 2022, 11:23 AM
Oct 2022

Compare him to Trump or Reagan in his last couple of years. Fetterman has a speech disorder. Hell… Stephen Hawking couldn’t talk at all and look at his accomplishments. I could care less if someone studders, uses a cane or wheelchair, or stumbles up a plane step (Biden & Ford anyone?). His mind is there. That’s what you govern with. If I lived there he’d have my vote.

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