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Please forgive ill formed or mis-informed thoughts. I am using this as a venting/sounding board as well as hoping for help or ideas or just to start a discussion on everything happening.
Okay From what I understand Mr. Pelosi was alone or Nancy wasn't at the home at the time of the attack. I know people are saying they are grateful that she wasn't there. I am as well but then I am wondering if Nancy was home would the attack have happened. Doesn't she have Secret Service detail and how much and often does the detail protect her? If she has it 24/7 Like Biden and Harris, then this guy wouldn't have gotten near her house. So, the following questions are coming to mind:
Do we start protecting The Speaker of the House's spouses/family like we protect the President and VP families?
Are we willing to increase the secret service considering what we are finding out about their actions/lack of actions leading up to and including Jan 6th. We are also finding FBI agents not willing to arrest Jan 6th rioters because they sympathized with the rioters' feelings.
We need a serious deep dive into our law enforcement and even military after Jan 6th.
Yes, America doesn't want to admit that we have had extremism in the country before but if anyone is listening to Rachel Maddow's Ultra you realize America isn't good at remembering and fixing our extremism. We kind of sweep it under the rug and say. No, it was never that bad.
BUT we are seeing a political party accepting the extreme and violent members of the party become the mainstream norm of that party which is basically making that viewpoint acceptable in this county.
If we are seeing such a break-in and attack 12 days before the election. What might we see 7 days, or 3 days or I cringe thinking of this. the Day of election. We have masked individuals with body armor and weapons sitting in view of voting drop boxes. We have State Republican of Arizona encouraging and condoning the actions.
We have a US FL Senator -Mario Rubio talk about bombs in drop boxes destroying votes. I kept wondering if that was some sort of call to action or dog whistle encouraging something to be done.
I don't know if I am preaching to the choir or have put on my own tin foil hat of crazy.
We serious need some sort of (please excuse the phrase) "Come to Jesus moment" were the Political leaders all sit down and see where the 2 party stands and if the GOP want to seriously embrace the Fascism and Autocracy then we need to take that information and put a bull horn in Former President Obama's hand and let him shout it from Sunday/Monday til Tuesday when the poll closes.
and yes, this is Keith Olbermann's idea, but he is absolutely correct we need to hold the media accountable and remind them they are the 4th estate. If democracy falls, they will be held accountable and they will be the first victims to of an autocratic America.
Thank you for letting me vent and babble vomit. I expect the slamming that I am crazy, or the post wasn't useful.
onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)He was going to kill Paul and then lie in wait for the speaker. It was an assassination attempt on the third in line.
PA_jen
(1,114 posts)When my mother-in-law hit her head on her bathtub Faust while washing her hair 6 years ago she ended up having bleeding on the brain. I was told by the doctor any bleeding in the head is considered a stroke and treated as such.
onecaliberal
(32,902 posts)Ocelot II
(115,869 posts)That duty is assigned to the Capitol Police, even outside D.C. The Pelosi home wasn't guarded because Nancy wasn't there, but after this it seems that the homes of members of Congress should be protected at all times. Obviously the Secret Service needs investigating but this wasn't their responsibility. I do think there will be more violence related to the upcoming election and afterwards.
PA_jen
(1,114 posts)may seriously need to branch into a secret service like details for members and members family members.
bottomofthehill
(8,348 posts)They would need to increase the department from about 1700 to about 12,000 to protect all members and more than that for Family and Home protection. Salaries, Benefits, training and travel money.......
get the red out
(13,468 posts)"Opps, no texts sorry!"
Cattledog
(5,919 posts)By law, the Secret Service is authorized to protect:
The president, the vice president, (or other individuals next in order of succession to the Office of the President)
bottomofthehill
(8,348 posts)As an example, the Cabinet Member (Designated Survivor) that is taken off site for the State of the Union Address.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)Leadership--Pelosi, Schumer, McCarthy, McConnell, and the whips in both houses, too. I think they may provide some protection to reps who face unusual amounts of personal threats as well.
They do not protect family who are not in the immediate vicinity of those with protection details, or their homes when the protectee isn't there.
After this...? That might change.