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Peacetrain

(22,878 posts)
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:53 PM Oct 2022

Okay, I have to be honest with you.. I am not feeling the negativity

that I have seen by more than one poster on our chances in the mid-terms.. I am actually feeling quite positive for many of our candidates

Example: the republicans have done so much damage to themselves by refusing to back away from the Trump and his crazy ilk, most Iowans view Trump unfavorably.. and that is most independents also
https://news.yahoo.com/former-president-donald-trump-considers-105931823.html

If our people get out to vote, and the sad sacks of the world stop trying to demoralize them, I have a feeling pollsters are going to be pulling their hair out by its ever whitening roots.

Of course the media is going to go negative because usually the out of power party makes all the gains in the first mid terms of a new Presidents cycle. But this time, look what a group of losers the out of power party has embraced.





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Okay, I have to be honest with you.. I am not feeling the negativity (Original Post) Peacetrain Oct 2022 OP
I agree 100%. LakeArenal Oct 2022 #1
Agree. ananda Oct 2022 #2
I have high hopes for both houses too.. Peacetrain Oct 2022 #3
Same here! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #12
I am so sick of those breathlessly posting bad news multiple times a day...I notice the media has Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #32
I'm sick of it, too. SheltieLover Oct 2022 #34
There's a BIG BLUE WAVE coming KS Toronado Oct 2022 #17
I agree and no pollster is measuring Roe... Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #33
K & R. I agree completely. Stuart G Oct 2022 #4
Minor point mwf Oct 2022 #10
Welcome to DU panader0 Oct 2022 #13
You are correct wryter2000 Oct 2022 #25
That's what I was thinking. ShazzieB Oct 2022 #30
You are correct, and I was wrong. Change has been made. Stuart G Oct 2022 #36
We all have moments like that Bettie Oct 2022 #41
And I think the attempted assassination of NNcy Pelosi will hurt the pukes as well. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #39
Thank you - the media has been doing this 100% FakeNoose Oct 2022 #5
If we vote in big numbers equaling or nevergiveup Oct 2022 #6
Yes, House & Senate.. Republicans have damaged themselves by not calling out Trump for what he is. Stuart G Oct 2022 #7
Yep! CCExile Oct 2022 #8
I agree padfun Oct 2022 #9
One thing is absolutely certain. We will find out what kind of country we are going to have Chainfire Oct 2022 #11
I'm not feeling the negativity either. K&R AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2022 #14
"...and the sad sacks of the world stop trying to demoralize them..." Silent3 Oct 2022 #15
I agree. Butterflylady Oct 2022 #16
I don't trust the polls at all this time around. Roe was a huge deal and women haven't forgotten. Vinca Oct 2022 #18
Your keyboard to god's monitor...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2022 #19
I look at it like an old time clock. multigraincracker Oct 2022 #20
I just listened to most of the Patty Murray True Blue American Oct 2022 #21
I stay confident. If I'm wrong we will find out. LakeArenal Oct 2022 #38
👍 Joinfortmill Oct 2022 #22
No doubt here. But that doesn't mean I am not operating with a "it's too close to let up" attitude. marble falls Oct 2022 #23
Howard Dean says wryter2000 Oct 2022 #24
Quote by Lao Tzu: kentuck Oct 2022 #26
"Why the Democratic wave is actually bad news for Biden" NBachers Oct 2022 #27
Peace I agree 100% Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #28
Thanks Norbert Oct 2022 #29
That is the issue- so many people lurk at DU how many won't vote because of the negative posts? Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #40
That's what I was thinking Bettie Oct 2022 #42
Is that nervous feeling really best described as Negativity? Or is it Anti Complacency. Marcuse Oct 2022 #31
I don't pay attention to much of the talk either, here, MSM, or anywhere else. GoodRaisin Oct 2022 #35
As per normal, Peacetrain . . . peggysue2 Oct 2022 #37
I'm negative by nature. hamsterjill Oct 2022 #43

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
32. I am so sick of those breathlessly posting bad news multiple times a day...I notice the media has
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:56 PM
Oct 2022

actually been saying 6 points ahead in PA (Fetterman) was a toss-up but Vance leading Ryan by one point means he is 'winning'. I am sick of this shit. Kornacki shows us all the ways we could measure the 'red' wave on election day and what to watch...there isn't going to be a red wave.

KS Toronado

(17,326 posts)
17. There's a BIG BLUE WAVE coming
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:16 PM
Oct 2022

We also have all the people pissed off about abortion rights on our side.

Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
4. K & R. I agree completely.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:30 PM
Oct 2022

Last edited Sat Oct 29, 2022, 04:16 PM - Edit history (1)

By refusing to back away from Trump and criticize him, republicans have hurt themselves beyond anything that
they could imagine. On November 8th there will be a wipe-out of the pukes that we have not seen in years.

...Not taking on Trump, and calling him out for who & what he is, is stupid beyond "STUPID." Also not defending
women's right to abortion, will motivate women to vote against the republicans in a way that will be devastating this
election cycle. About future elections beyond this one, one cannot say. But, this time they have shot themselves in
the head ......TWICE, NOT ONCE.

...The backlash will be similar to 88 Dukakis riding around in a tank. And, it is too late for the leaders in the
Puke Party to do anything about either problem. Who is going to criticize Trump at this point? Who has stood by
women's right to abortion through all of this? Democrats THAT IS WHO.

....Pukes will lose like they have never lost before. In eleven days we will see this blood bath. And, I for one, will
enjoy it completely. (and in my opinion, it is too late for them to do anything about it)





mwf

(25 posts)
10. Minor point
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 02:22 PM
Oct 2022

As I remember, that was Dukakis riding in the tank, not McGovern. But the sentiment is the same.

ShazzieB

(16,529 posts)
30. That's what I was thinking.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:50 PM
Oct 2022

It was Dukakis, and it was 1988, not 1972.

It would have made zero sense for McGovern to have his picture taken riding in a tank. He ran for president as an anti(Vietnam)war candidate.

Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
36. You are correct, and I was wrong. Change has been made.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 04:09 PM
Oct 2022

Also, I got Dukakis election date wrong. It was 88, not 72. That change has also been made.

........Oh well I tried.

FakeNoose

(32,767 posts)
5. Thank you - the media has been doing this 100%
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:40 PM
Oct 2022

... and that's why we need to stop listening to them and stop taking cues from them.

They are wrong, but it's their business to get us churned up and anxious. Why? So we'll watch more TV and listen to them blathering 24/7. No thanks, I don't want to hear that message, and I refuse to repeat it here on DU.

We need to stay positive and keep on doing what we're doing. We need to keep electing Democrats everywhere.



nevergiveup

(4,764 posts)
6. If we vote in big numbers equaling or
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:48 PM
Oct 2022

surpassing 2018 we will gain in the Senate and most likely hold the House. It is that simple.

Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
7. Yes, House & Senate.. Republicans have damaged themselves by not calling out Trump for what he is.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:49 PM
Oct 2022

Failure to do so, will get lots of people to vote. Also, the abortion issue is very high on the list too.
And we know which side is in favor of "Women's right to have abortions" don't we?

Chainfire

(17,643 posts)
11. One thing is absolutely certain. We will find out what kind of country we are going to have
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 02:39 PM
Oct 2022

once the counting is over.

Silent3

(15,272 posts)
15. "...and the sad sacks of the world stop trying to demoralize them..."
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:07 PM
Oct 2022

I think many people here on DU WAY overestimate how much bad polls and other people expressing worries and doubts effects anyone, ESPECIALLY other people on DU.

If you bother to spend time on DU, you’re almost certainly going to get out and vote no matter what.

And if scary polls and predictions of doom and gloom were so toxic to potential electoral victory, why the hell would fund raising emails use those things so much?

Be confident. Be worried. Whatever you like. But please, stop with all of the unproven assertions about what either discourages voters, or the converse, what makes people so overconfident they don’t bother to vote.

Butterflylady

(3,549 posts)
16. I agree.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:12 PM
Oct 2022

For one thing there will be another democratic governor in Pennsylvania. Rump has said he is going to contest the results of the election because he knows already that the candidates he backed are going to lose.

I truly believe that the women and young people in this country are going to be the major players in this election.

multigraincracker

(32,722 posts)
20. I look at it like an old time clock.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:18 PM
Oct 2022

Pendulum swings way to the right, then it swings back hard to the left. The further it swings one way, the harder it swings back. Kind of the nature of the real world.
Be nice if it slowed to a stop in the middle, but that never happens. I'm old and getting closer to the last swing anyway.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
21. I just listened to most of the Patty Murray
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:31 PM
Oct 2022

Debate. Her opponent said Patty wanted abortion right up until birth. I knew she was a liar right then. She had to use notes written for her to attack Patty over and over, she was so angry, accipused Patty of attacking her when she was the one attacking.

I am mostly optimistic. I am concerned about the violence and lies.

wryter2000

(46,082 posts)
24. Howard Dean says
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:39 PM
Oct 2022

We'll gain seats in both houses. That was at least a week ago, so I don't know if his opinion has changed. But I truly trust Howard Dean's opinions. Michael Moore, on the other hand, sees what he wants to see.

I don't understand the worries over the Senate. If we lose NV, we're likely to take one of the open seats to make it up. We wouldn't get the extra two votes to finish the filibuster, which is a bummer.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
26. Quote by Lao Tzu:
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 03:43 PM
Oct 2022

“If you are depressed you are living in the past. If you are anxious you are living in the future. If you are at peace you are living in the present.”

Demsrule86

(68,689 posts)
40. That is the issue- so many people lurk at DU how many won't vote because of the negative posts?
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 11:55 AM
Oct 2022

There are a handful of posters who are positively gleefully posting this crap.
this crap. They almost seem to want us to lose. I don't get it.

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
42. That's what I was thinking
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 01:15 PM
Oct 2022

it really feels like a few people want us to lose it all.

They are so happy to post all of this daily over and over.

GoodRaisin

(8,929 posts)
35. I don't pay attention to much of the talk either, here, MSM, or anywhere else.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 04:03 PM
Oct 2022

I know that it’s going to come down to more of our voters getting out than theirs; and, I do believe we should pick up some women voters and young voters too who should be more motivated to vote for democrats unless they are just plain stupid. All the other horses are already in the barn.

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
37. As per normal, Peacetrain . . .
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 04:36 PM
Oct 2022

You and I are on the same wavelength. I think we'll be surprised by the election results. In a good way. At the top of the year, the Dems were considered roadkill for the upcoming election. Now? It's race to the finish. Contests are close, razor-thin in many cases. Now it's a GOTV operation. We get our people out, we can win this thing.

Btw, I listened to President Obama this afternoon, the rally in Michigan. The man did what he's so good at: he set the crowd on fire.

Fired up and ready to go!

Off topic but I received my verification this morning that my ballot had been received and added to the 750,000+ early ballots in Pennsylvania. Feels good.

Fired up!

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
43. I'm negative by nature.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:00 PM
Oct 2022

Expect the worst; hope for the best. Always good to be prepared rather than surprised.

I sincerely and genuinely hope you are right. Because if Republicans gain power again, it is OVER and no amount of cheerleading once that happens will make me feel differently.

Again - to clarify: I hope Dems kick serious ass and take control of both houses. I will be dancing in the streets if that happens!!!

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