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msfiddlestix

(7,287 posts)
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 10:50 AM Oct 2022

Turns out, Blue Sky will be owned by Twitter (Elon Musk) . Blue Sky is a bait and switch OP.

Last edited Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:18 PM - Edit history (1)

And I just took the bait yesterday.

GD it to hell.

well, I'll just have to unscribe from that one too and it hasn't even gotten to launch yet.

Good to Know Now. But I really hate it when I allow myself to be conned.

argggh.



Editing to add source:

https://democraticunderground.com/100217300732


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Turns out, Blue Sky will be owned by Twitter (Elon Musk) . Blue Sky is a bait and switch OP. (Original Post) msfiddlestix Oct 2022 OP
Sounds like loyalty test from a dictator underpants Oct 2022 #1
OP? CurtEastPoint Oct 2022 #2
I thought I read that some guy from Saudi Arabia will be 2nd in command at twitter. LenaBaby61 Oct 2022 #3
The Saudis are 2nd biggest investor. They, just like musk want to control American politics PortTack Oct 2022 #8
✔️ msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #18
I get your point, but it owns and controls itself Dalton555 Oct 2022 #4
hmm. kind of "free for all" like other platforms, but still owned by Musk at the end of the day. msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Dalton555 Oct 2022 #16
I too have strong feelings for factual statements vs false info. msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Dalton555 Oct 2022 #23
Deleting my post, I hate arguing. I apologize for being unpleasant Dalton555 Oct 2022 #24
Maybe. It's helpful to research before telling us the sky has fallen. 48656c6c6f20 Oct 2022 #5
Thanks for the info. zuul Oct 2022 #13
Maybe I don't understand Dorsey's Mission? msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #17
Goodbye Blue Sky Donkees Oct 2022 #6
Why do people post exposes like this with absolutely no sourcing? brooklynite Oct 2022 #7
The OP is incorrect obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #9
That would explain it brooklynite Oct 2022 #10
Apologies, here is the source which I based my OP on: msfiddlestix Oct 2022 #14
It's not meant to be a competitor social network leftstreet Oct 2022 #11
From what I've read on their site, it's all still pretty vague and limited in details XorXor Oct 2022 #19
I've lived without Twitter for almost a decade BlueIdaho Oct 2022 #12
Ha ha ha, I thought this was gonna be about the TV show Blue Sky. Sorry. a kennedy Oct 2022 #21
Isn't there enough platforms and podcasts polluting the air? Boomerproud Oct 2022 #22

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
3. I thought I read that some guy from Saudi Arabia will be 2nd in command at twitter.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 10:57 AM
Oct 2022

It's getting so that NO American companies own any social platforms in the US any longer.

I wonder why that is?

PortTack

(32,809 posts)
8. The Saudis are 2nd biggest investor. They, just like musk want to control American politics
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 11:16 AM
Oct 2022

This is their latest tool to achieve that.

Dalton555

(1,474 posts)
4. I get your point, but it owns and controls itself
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 10:58 AM
Oct 2022

It is owned and controlled by the developers, and it cannot be controlled by the Twitter board or by Twitter itself.
https://www.coinspeaker.com/bluesky-unaffected-musk-twitter-takeover/

It's kind of like the Chromium project at Google, which was set up as an independent entity even though it puts out a open source software. The chromium project owns its own stuff.

msfiddlestix

(7,287 posts)
15. hmm. kind of "free for all" like other platforms, but still owned by Musk at the end of the day.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:23 PM
Oct 2022

none the less Musk is the harvester of the profits... amirite?



Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #15)

msfiddlestix

(7,287 posts)
20. I too have strong feelings for factual statements vs false info.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:39 PM
Oct 2022

I'm not adverse to being corrected, or wrong. When it is clear, I have made a mistake, I'm happy to admit it.

I understand it isn't "owned" by Twitter or controlled by Twitter.

It is however owned by very wealthy entities who do NOT have OUR best interest at heart.

That's the bottom line. no matter what the technical details of developer vs control etc etc etc

Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #20)

Dalton555

(1,474 posts)
24. Deleting my post, I hate arguing. I apologize for being unpleasant
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 10:20 AM
Oct 2022

I just have that weird fixation on statements

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
5. Maybe. It's helpful to research before telling us the sky has fallen.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 10:59 AM
Oct 2022

On April 26, 2022, Bluesky put out a statement saying that the project will remain unaffected by Elon Musk's proposed takeover of Twitter, stating that Bluesky has been independently operating as a public benefit limited liability company since February of that year. This gives Bluesky the freedom to put their resources toward their mission without an obligation to return money to shareholders

msfiddlestix

(7,287 posts)
17. Maybe I don't understand Dorsey's Mission?
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:30 PM
Oct 2022

This sort of reads as PR bait and switch to me. Given that Dorsey and Musk are collaborators of this project.

Not at all sure what exactly is the mission.

Yesterday, it was presented as an alternative to Twitter. I inferred that to mean completely independent and competing with Twitter.

Reading what you posted may indicate a contradiction or a correction of my understanding from the post on DU indicating it is not what it appears to be.

https://democraticunderground.com/100217300732

msfiddlestix

(7,287 posts)
14. Apologies, here is the source which I based my OP on:
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:16 PM
Oct 2022

In this OP posted on DU https://democraticunderground.com/100217300732

No, Elon and Jack are not “competitors.” They’re collaborating.
Elon Musk’s deal to buy Twitter has been met with surprise, derision, and gnashing of teeth — and an overwhelming amount of well-intentioned but poorly-informed commentary and analysis.

As someone who has followed the company closely since its inception and has had a chance to talk in depth about technical topics with Jack Dorsey and the company’s other founders over the years, I have a different view.

Here’s a series of common questions regarding the deal and the relationship between Dorsey and Musk about which I see the most errors and misconceptions.

Q: Jack Dorsey is launching “Bluesky,” a new social network to compete with Twitter. I’ll just join that instead!

A: Sorry to disappoint, but Dorsey played a key role in Musk’s deal to take Twitter private. The two are good friends. And Bluesky is an initiative launched by Twitter. In April, Dorsey wrote, “In principle, I don’t believe anyone should own or run Twitter. It wants to be a public good at a protocol level, not a company. Solving for the problem of it being a company however, Elon is the singular solution I trust. I trust his mission to extend the light of consciousness.”





leftstreet

(36,117 posts)
11. It's not meant to be a competitor social network
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 11:35 AM
Oct 2022

Dorsey's developing more of an app than anything. He says himself that platforms like Twitter could use the tech.


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And according to Dorsey, Bluesky will not be competing with Twitter in the traditional sense, as he noted recently that the app will instead be "a competitor to any company trying to own the underlying fundamentals for social media or the data of the people using it."

"Algorithms dictate what we see and who we can reach," the Bluesky team wrote in a separate tweet. "We must have control over our algorithms if we're going to trust in our online spaces."

But don't expect Bluesky to try to compete with Twitter. As Dorsey said in a Dec. 11 tweet, "The goal is for Twitter to ultimately be a client of this standard."

https://www.eonline.com/news/1352431/what-to-know-about-jack-dorseys-new-app-after-elon-musks-twitter-takeover

XorXor

(626 posts)
19. From what I've read on their site, it's all still pretty vague and limited in details
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:34 PM
Oct 2022

They seem to to still be figuring out all the details. But on it's surface I don't see a problem with their goals. Not sure why we should think it will be much different than the myriad of other projects that do things similarly

Boomerproud

(7,971 posts)
22. Isn't there enough platforms and podcasts polluting the air?
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:48 PM
Oct 2022

No wonder we can't , or won't, talk to each other any more.

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