Holy Fuck! Has there ever been a time in American history where so many cases that pertained

[Baitball Blogger]

to one political party's agenda and/or their leaders have been swiftly sent to the Supreme Court AND addressed by the Court?

[William769]

1. K&R.

[TheRealNorth]

2. No shit

Yet, when it comes to addressing the criminal activity of said party, the cases languish as they use the courts to run out the clock.

[Pepsidog]

22. Or his taxes.As Whitehouse says. " SCOTUS is captured".

[BOSSHOG]

3. As Michael Corleone told his lawyer

After Vito’s death, I don’t yet have all the politicians I need butI do have all the judges I need.

The gop plan for decades, secure the judiciary. In other words fuck liberty and Justice for all. Brought to you by your gop rep.

[Irish_Dem]

15. We are seeing in real time how to end democracy and install an autocracy.

Right, we are seeing that corrupt judges are more important than corrupt politicians.

[plimsoll]

4. It's the Court of the GOP now folks.

If the Democrats win/hold on, we need to seriously consider adding seats. I think Hillary is more qualified than Bret, but we need some young partisan person to balance out the hacks.

[calimary]

7. A better and more doable strategy would be SCOTUS term limits.

Expanding the bench would be impractical and ungainly. We’d do it when Democrats get full power. But when the bad guys got their turn, they’d do it, too. Nine justices would become 13, and then expand some more from there - as the GOP would see (and sell it) “to even things up better for OUR side again”. And this trade-off-from Hell would just keep on going until too late to do anything to stop
it.

[plimsoll]

9. Those guys will be "grandfathered" in.

So well have Amy, Neil, Bret, Sam and John for a long, long time. Sure Clarence will probably pop his clogs sooner, but we're talking decades of this headlock on the court. That was the point of their nominations, young ideologues. This court is broken, and while you're right that it becomes a tit for tat game let's not pretend that it wasn't a well thought out strategy to create a corrupt court.

[Pepsidog]

24. Yeah in 2016 I thought we would be sitting pretty with SCOTUS for the rest of my life.

[NullTuples]

55. It's no secret; GOP leaders like McConnell have openly gloated about how proud they are of it.

[Moostache]

11. With the current partisan hacks installed for DECADES to come, its game over.

The SCOTUS is an illegitimate court now. It is a partisan exercise in mendacity and serves justice as much as McDonald's serves healthy food.

The main problem we face - disproportionate representation of land over people, of money over people - cannot be solved with a gerrymandered (and stolen) SCOTUS filled with unshamable ideologues. They will never rule against the wishes of their paymasters and powers that be holding their leashes behind the throne.

This situation was brought to us by Reagan, Bush, Bush, Cheney, Palin (via McCain), Trump and the current crop of imbecile and evil motherfuckers grabbing for the brass ring without a plan, or a purpose beyond vengeance and power in interchangeable order.

All I can say is that when they try to force religion on me as the law of the land, I will react violently and will indiscriminately consider anyone actively participating in such nonsense as a valid target for reprisals. No quarter will be given.

[Pepsidog]

25. Truly an untenable situation that must be corrected.

[BadgerMom]

19. IANAL, but couldn't expansion be linked to the number of circuit courts?

It would expand the number with a solid reason to do so. And it could go along with term limits.

[gab13by13]

34. I agree, 13 justices with term limits, and written ethics rules.

[Zeitghost]

46. Term limits requires an amendment

So zero chance of that happening.

[MayReasonRule]

45. SCROTUS

Because my balls say so...

[Initech]

5. The fundie nutjobs got what they wanted - SCOTUS.

And you know what? Fuck them and their ill gotten gains. I refuse to live in a religious fascist country.

[Moostache]

12. I will not live peaceably in a theocratic fascist dictatorship.

There will not be any question in my mind that striking back at such evil is not only justified, it is mandated and necessary.
I will die before submitting to an imposition of one man's religion on me or my family.

[DENVERPOPS]

42. I don't worry about a religious fascist country

as much as I worry about a Corporate Fascist Tyranny which is just around the corner, folks.....

[Genki Hikari]

47. I worry about it

Because, as an open atheist, I would be first up on the torment-and-execution block.

[DENVERPOPS]

63. Maybe I am wrong

but I believe they will throw their fanatical religious right followers under the bus, along with their 70 million maggot voters just as soon as they establish their Corporate Controlled Fascist Tyranny. Once the Republicans are in complete control, voting will just be a joke, as it is in every other country that has an authoritarian government and dictatorship. The prime example is the "open and fair" elections held in Russia.......


I would expect one of the things they will try to do asap is repeal the 22nd Amendment.

I found this from the Britanica to be most interesting:

Twenty-second Amendment, amendment (1951) to the Constitution of the United States effectively limiting to two the number of terms a president of the United States may serve. It was one of 273 recommendations to the U.S. Congress by the Hoover Commission, created by Pres. Harry S. Truman, to reorganize and reform the federal government. It was formally proposed by the U.S. Congress on March 24, 1947, and was ratified on Feb. 27, 1951.

The Constitution did not stipulate any limit on presidential terms—indeed, as Alexander Hamilton wrote in Federalist 69: “That magistrate is to be elected for four years; and is to be re-eligible as often as the people of the United States shall think him worthy of their confidence.” (Hamilton also argued, in Federalist 71, in favour of a life term for the president of the United States.)

[Ferrets are Cool]

51. BOTH are worrisome as hell.

I am sick and fucking tired of religious people thinking they can tell me how I live my life.

[BlueIdaho]

6. The Nixon Administration?

The Reagan Administration? You may notice a pattern here…

[Sympthsical]

8. It's a case that started in 2019

And gone through several rulings and permutations (Trump DOJ vs Biden DOJ).

So, not that swift.

And this stay only comes because the deadline is the end of this week. It doesn't mean they'll rule one way or another. It just means, "Let's look at this before the deadline."

[Moostache]

13. Don't do that...please.

Don't make excuses for the partisan hackery of the current court. There is justice and there is mafia justice. What's happening here is as far from legitimate justice as you can get. Period.

I have absolutely no respect for or belief in the legitimacy of the Roberts Court as it is configured.

It is an abomination and part of the plan to destroy the ability of the nation to adapt and change with time; in favor of locking in an agrarian-based (land representation favored over population anyway) and financial (corporate 'persons') monarchy once more. Perhaps with only a figurehead as "king", but with the landed gentry and lords and ladies nonetheless.

It is not innocent.
It is not normal.
It is not OK.

Fuck the Supreme Court, it is NOT a legitimate body any longer.

[Sympthsical]

14. Kagan and Sotomayor also issued similar stays recently

Are they also right-wing?

Why/why not?

Are they in on it?

How deep does it all go?!

[Moostache]

16. It goes to the core constitution of the court,

Once the seat for replacing that gasbag Scalia was stolen and then seeing RBG replaced with a religious hack within WEEKS of an election, the legitimacy of the court was destroyed.

The motivations of this decision alone are not the foundation for why the court is a mockery of justice and illegitimate on the decisions of a few justices... the institution itself has been corrupted and is no longer valid or a legitimate arbiter of justice or constitutionality.

Who's "in on it"? Anyone who believes that as things currently stand that we have a legitimate court system. We have long had "rich man's justice" and "poor man's justice", but now we have politically connected justice as well.

How deep? Fuck that line of inquiry. I do not believe in Fox News created nonsense like the concept of a "deep state" or anything else that would have been perfectly at home in that bad Mel Gibson 90's film "Conspiracy Theory".

[Sympthsical]

30. Non-sequitur

Why is this administrative procedure, that is very standard and has been used on Trump-related issues by liberal justices quite recently, worthy of a hair-on-fire response at this juncture?

When there's a ruling, sure, criticize the ruling if it's a terrible one.

But a common administrative procedure being painted in the most hyperbolic and world-ending terms . . .

I hate decaffeinated coffee, but I'm just saying.

[gab13by13]

37. Also a common administrative procedure

could have been for the court to not take the appeal.

[Sympthsical]

48. They may feel there are issues involved that require at least a cursory glance

Legislative branch vs. executive is generally their purview in high profile cases.

When Thomas' stay came down, people swore up and down it was Ultimate Corruption and Nothing Will Happen and It's Just Further Proof.

Well. Here we are. Thomas' stay on Graham is lifted. No dissents.

The thing about sitting on a street corner with a "The World Is Ending Next Tuesday" is, nothing happening next Tuesday doesn't generate a pause or rethink. They don't miss a single beat and just pick another date.

Not a good way to go about things, but then, I'm not religious so I don't know how faith-based belief stuff works.

[sl8]

53. But they haven't decided yet whether to hear the appeal.

They won't decide whether to grant cert. until after they get a response from the J6 Committee. If they deny cert., that's it.

[DENVERPOPS]

43. The USSC destroyed their legitimacy of the court

It was destroyed, when they intervened with the Florida State Laws re the recount in 2000.
They had absolutely No legal grounds to declare a stop to the state's laws of the re-count.....Period

[58Sunliner]

23. Oh look, it's both siderism. Thanks for playing.

[onenote]

26. So do you agree or disagree with Kagan's granting a stay of the J6 Committee subpoena to Kelli Ward?

[Sympthsical]

31. It's closer to no-siderism

When a common procedure is used by all justices in cases regardless of ideological bent.

[58Sunliner]

32. "Are they also right-wing? Why/why not? Are they in on it? How deep does it all go?!"

Thanks for playing.

[Skittles]

56. are you unwilling to acknowledge the SC has been completely corrupted?

just curious

[Sympthsical]

57. I think Thomas is a general mess

And the Court is now firmly conservative.

Do you acknowledge that cries last week of Thomas' stay that "All hope is lost!" were incorrect given the result?

Or is it always going to be the usual case of never course correct or modulate based on empirical evidence of incorrectness?

This kind of reaction was proven to be wildly hyperbolic and irrational in real time over the course of this past week, and people didn't miss a step to repeat the behavior.

Are we to be resistant to objective reality for ideological purpose?

[Skittles]

58. last week?

who the fuck cares about last week

we care about THE FUTURE OF AMERICA and it SUCKS that our SC has been HIJACKED BY REPUKES

[Sympthsical]

61. So you're not going to answer the question

And just go with non-sequitur rhetoric in response.

It's a simple question. After a hyperbolic response to an administrative stay was proven to be wildly unwarranted, isn't the appropriate response to course correct and seek out an understanding of how these things function?

Or, should it just be shouting and hyperbole no matter what is going on?

I realize I just got my response. But I'm going to reiterate that just to point out the problem.

Problems don't get solved by doubling down on incorrect things.

[Skittles]

66. honestly

I HATE wasting my time

over and OUT

[Pepsidog]

27. Well said. At the very least,the last 3 appointments should be impeached for lies when we have the

numbers. Pray we get the numbers sooner, rather than later.

[DENVERPOPS]

33. Whatever happened to

the idea of Biden expanding the number of justices, to at least try and neutralize the USSC.?????

[Pepsidog]

36. I'm with you, although some say they will do it too. Get rid of the filibuster, expand USSC, protect

voting rites etc. and let's see them reverse course when they get in power. Im ok with expanding the court the minute they get the power. Hell, while their at it make DC a state.

[DENVERPOPS]

39. Great ideas

As far as DC becoming a state, even the corporations that manufacture U.S. flags would love it!

I think they have not done it, because they can't figure out how to put 51 stars on the flag.......LOL

[Peacetrain]

10. Honest toGod.. I was just signing in to ask the same quiestion

Hubby and I were talking about how all the problems we have had with Trump goes back to the fact the courts let him play around in them like a sandbox

[SheltieLover]

17. Not to mention all to sidestep prosecution for crimes.

[Paper Roses]

18. Rec this whole thread.. n/t

[ancianita]

20. Nope. The heavy use of junk litigation and due process stalls are attempted end runs around

accountability under rule of (no one is above the) law. We want justice. Rule of men want just-us.

[Pepsidog]

28. As an attorney I have always managed to get expedited hearings on cases that were time sensitive and

appropriate for an expedited say appeal or adverse ruling. Maybe the Rs are just better at shuffling the deck to get what they want.

[ancianita]

35. Good for you. Maybe at the court levels of your practice, perhaps the deck isn't stacked. Dunno.

SCOTUS is. Republican justices are assigned two circuits each. Democratic justices one circuit each.

In what districts does trump often file? Republican justice circuits. His latest is in Clarence Thomas' 11th District. Nice deck shuffling.

[Evolve Dammit]

29. Well said

[sarcasmo]

21. The GOP clogging up the courts

[RedSpartan]

38. The Reich Wing has been waiting 40 years for this Court majority.

They will not waste one moment in undoing the past century-plus of progress.

It will take us several generations, at least, to repair the damage, if ever.

But her emails, right?

[DENVERPOPS]

44. They definitely

want to take us back to the days of the GILDED AGE!

[TomSlick]

40. I recall nothing like it.

And yet, Roberts and Alito wonder why the public has so low an opinion of the Court.

[Quanto Magnus]

41. This has been their plan for decades

So, to answer the question... I don't think there has


Am I surprised by it? Not in the slightest.

[PlutosHeart]

49. Lots of horrors and complaining yet

seems some people are late to the party to have prevented these things. If we live only in horror to the reality If what may even get worse yet our leaders and those with money do not step up at the 11th hour we are done for.

All the gerrymandering, all the law fixes, the Courts....seriously. A majority of the Country will not be able to have the say. It is the monsters at the top of these people that are killing the planet, the people and everything else.

My heart hurts.

[inthewind21]

65. Way Late

Reaction after the fact.

[Ferrets are Cool]

50. I've been comtemplating this exact thing. The court is the one who should be shutting it down

but seemingly will not.

[The Wizard]

52. The GQP fall back position

is take it to the Supreme (currently Mediocre) Court.

[dcmfox]

54. Peas!!!

Mommy told me I have to eat all my peas? Please supremes set her straight!!!

[SunSeeker]

59. The vast majority of appeals are ignored by SCOTUS, but not anything filed by MF45 or his henchmen.

SCOTUS only hears about 100 to 150 appeals of the more than 7,000 cases it is asked to review every year. https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/court-role-and-structure/about-us-courts-appeals#:~:text=The%20Supreme%20Court%20of%20the,word%20in%20thousands%20of%20cases.

[Baitball Blogger]

62. +1

[Heather MC]

60. STACK THE COURTS

Return Balance

[Torchlight]

64. Sometimes, the stink of toxic corruption can be overwhelming.

Watching third-chair mouthpieces justify it as a standard is also disheartening.