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DOJ Prosecutors Have Evidence To Charge Trump! (Original Post) Emile Nov 2022 OP
Supposedly after the congressional elections Fullduplexxx Nov 2022 #1
I read yesterday that he plans to announce his 2024 candidacy soon Mr. Ected Nov 2022 #2
They will make that accusation no matter what. Claustrum Nov 2022 #6
I think it will deRien Nov 2022 #10
There was a politician in my home town cyclonefence Nov 2022 #3
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #5
What Charges do you speak of? msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #4
One has to be convicted first before going to jail in most cases. Kaleva Nov 2022 #8
Stealing top-secret National Security documents and obstructing their return is a very BIG deal. Justice matters. Nov 2022 #9
It used to be a very big deal. but it appears not so much anymore... msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #17
Many charges, here is an article from October 19 on obstruction! Emile Nov 2022 #13
So many, for a long period of time and yet he was never charged with any of those offenses msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #16
The only way I think he possibly sees prison is if it's 100% provable that he sold Top Secret docs Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #14
And that document is permitted to be introduced into court. fescuerescue Nov 2022 #18
And that document is permitted to be introduced into court. fescuerescue Nov 2022 #19
Do they have everything in order to very likely convict him? Kaleva Nov 2022 #7
They will do it when they will be ready to convince a criminal-case Jury. Justice matters. Nov 2022 #11
Trump rso Nov 2022 #12
Later. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #15

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
2. I read yesterday that he plans to announce his 2024 candidacy soon
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:03 AM
Nov 2022

If someone doesn't drop an indictment NOW, he and his loyalists will whine that it's all political persecution.

This is a case of justice and politics being on a collision course, and justice appears to be the weaker of the two.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
6. They will make that accusation no matter what.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:12 AM
Nov 2022

If we do it now, it's the midterms. It's to damage TFG so he can't run in 2024, etc. They will whine no matter what.

I don't care what they do. If he committed crimes, charge him.

deRien

(165 posts)
10. I think it will
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:22 AM
Nov 2022

depend on the results of this election. If the Republicans will big, he will run, if the Democrats win, I don't think he will. I bet he's counting on Republicans to win in a lot of states especially those who would "fix" the election for him.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
3. There was a politician in my home town
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:03 AM
Nov 2022

whose campaign slogan was (swear to god) "Indicted but never convicted."

I wish TFG would rot in jail, his family left penniless (and most of them in jail, too), but I have a feeling he's going to drag this out for the rest of his god-forsaken life.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
4. What Charges do you speak of?
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:07 AM
Nov 2022

There is only ONE Single Truthful remark he's ever made to the American Public.

and you might have heard it before: paraphrasing:

'I can shoot someone on 5th Ave in broad daylight in the middle of the street, and they'll still vote for me'

Read that to also mean: 'And I'll never be Charged with a Crime'


Regardless of how many "investigations", he will die of old age before he ever spends a single day behind bars.



Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
8. One has to be convicted first before going to jail in most cases.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:16 AM
Nov 2022

People here assume that if TFG is charged, a conviction by a jury of his peers is a sure thing

Justice matters.

(6,930 posts)
9. Stealing top-secret National Security documents and obstructing their return is a very BIG deal.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:22 AM
Nov 2022

Not prosecuting any citizen or any foreigner for committing the first crime, moreso when some of the highest secret documents are "missing" - no matter what "previous" position the criminal had or not - would only incite others in the future to do the same and citing precedent.

hair furhair will be charged with both. The rest will be decided by a Jury of his peers as it must. Otherwise, Justice is a farce. Nothing else than a big joke.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
17. It used to be a very big deal. but it appears not so much anymore...
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:51 PM
Nov 2022

at least not when it's involving that guy.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. The only way I think he possibly sees prison is if it's 100% provable that he sold Top Secret docs
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:14 AM
Nov 2022

To a foreign agent/government. But he'd not be dumb enough to do that himself, he'd set up a fall guy/gal. So proving that he ordered it would possibly be tough. Dude's a bit of a criminal mastermind, despite being an idiot in so many ways.

Anything less I think he's at most fined/barred from doing business in some places, and POSSIBLY gets stuck on probation for awhile.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
18. And that document is permitted to be introduced into court.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:55 PM
Nov 2022

That's a challenge with many of these espionage cases.

That's why most reach a sweetheart deal before court.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
19. And that document is permitted to be introduced into court.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:57 PM
Nov 2022

That's a challenge with many of these espionage cases.

That's why most reach a sweetheart deal before court.

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
7. Do they have everything in order to very likely convict him?
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:13 AM
Nov 2022

If they charge him and the jury finds him not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, then he won't be able to be charged later. Even if there's enough evidence found later to make the case a slam dunk.

Justice matters.

(6,930 posts)
11. They will do it when they will be ready to convince a criminal-case Jury.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:40 AM
Nov 2022

The Jury will then have to return a "unanimous" verdict: Guilty or Innocent.

IF judged guilty, then hair furhair will appeal. The rest is speculation.

rso

(2,271 posts)
12. Trump
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:07 AM
Nov 2022

With Kash Patel being immunized, DOJ may wait after Patel testifies to the Grand Jury, as he probably has valuable evidence.

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