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Iwasthere

(3,168 posts)
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:42 AM Nov 2022

Powell possibly influenced the election just enough. This election's comey

I hope I'm wrong. He could have easily turned the economy just by staying vaque.The markets were heading up right until he say "we've got a long way to go". He did his job (or made an attempt), to influence just enough races for the Rs He has the power to affect global economy. He must go imo [link:https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/business/nightcap-fed-rate-hike/index.html|

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Powell possibly influenced the election just enough. This election's comey (Original Post) Iwasthere Nov 2022 OP
My thought, too. Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #1
"He did his job (or made an attempt), to influence just enough races for the Rs" brooklynite Nov 2022 #2
With any "luck"* Karma13612 Nov 2022 #3
As our Financial Planner put it yesterday.... ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2022 #4
It's not his job to consider any impact his decisions will have on an election. Beautiful Disaster Nov 2022 #5
Exactly! Iwasthere Nov 2022 #6
It's not too late at all. Beautiful Disaster Nov 2022 #7
I think the Fed is driving us right into stagflation... TheRealNorth Nov 2022 #10
Doubtful. Beautiful Disaster Nov 2022 #11
Explain how that works? TheRealNorth Nov 2022 #14
Easy. To have stagflation, you have to have high inflation. Beautiful Disaster Nov 2022 #15
Absolutely no evidence that Powell was acting to influence the elections Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #8
So you don't believe his carefully crafted words had any impact? Iwasthere Nov 2022 #12
Nope. No evidence to support that perspective Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #13
Are Regular Voters Keyed into Interest Rate Hikes? I Am But No One Else in my Dem Circle Is. Indykatie Nov 2022 #9

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
2. "He did his job (or made an attempt), to influence just enough races for the Rs"
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:57 AM
Nov 2022
Powell was renominated for a second term by President Joe Biden on November 22, 2021.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
3. With any "luck"*
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:07 AM
Nov 2022

The Dow will be back to 30,000 by next Tuesday. Just in time to piss off voters. It was nearly 33,000 a couple days ago and I was beginning to feel calm again.

*as in BAD BAD luck

Dammit.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
4. As our Financial Planner put it yesterday....
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:18 AM
Nov 2022

"The Market was due for an adjustment. "

Being way up there was not steady as far as he was concerned, but he sees a more consistent steadiness after the New Year in the 29,000 to 31,000 range. He did mention a short recession of less than 7 months. Not like the last one of late 2007 to mid 2009. He also stated that the US was still in far better shape Economically/Financially than the rest of the world despite the current inflation rate GDP growth. As well as that the US was still a good place in which to invest money.

Let us hope he is correct. With the manufacturing of needed micro chips in the US on the horizon, and perhaps other manufacturing, the Markets will regain that steadiness that makes the US a good "investment bet."

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
5. It's not his job to consider any impact his decisions will have on an election.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:37 AM
Nov 2022

What he's doing is trying to get inflation under control. That just doesn't go away because we have an election coming up. In fact, he probably should have raised interest rates earlier.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
7. It's not too late at all.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:57 AM
Nov 2022

Not raising interest rates will turn the US into Turkey.

I'll be honest: I'm glad none of you are in charge of the economy or we'd be so royally fucked.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
11. Doubtful.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 12:19 PM
Nov 2022

The Fed has attempted to let inflation correct itself and it hasn't. Inflation is still extremely high. It's not sustainable.

Stagflation is probably the outcome of inaction.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
14. Explain how that works?
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:24 PM
Nov 2022

Because if you have falling production because people are being laid off without a change in the money supply, what is left being produced is going to cost more due to an increase in scarcity. While you can say that some items will drop in price because they are not necessities, what we have been seeing is a rising cost of all necessities already.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
15. Easy. To have stagflation, you have to have high inflation.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 05:10 PM
Nov 2022

Raising interest rates will lower inflation. It's basic economics. Eventually, doing nothing with inflation is going to result in low growth, high unemployment and a continued level of high inflation.

We've attempted to see if it'll correct itself. Clearly it's not. It's not sustainable and will directly lead to stagflation as the economy struggles to run red hot like it has for the last two years.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,624 posts)
8. Absolutely no evidence that Powell was acting to influence the elections
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:04 AM
Nov 2022

And Fed votes as a board, not one individual, so you’d have to prove that each member was in the tank for the GOP.

On the other hand, there is plenty of economic evidence to justify the Fed’s rate hikes, regardless of whether it’s an election year- the debate is over the size and speed of the hikes. Most economists feel the Fed waited too long (up to a year too long) to begin hiking, which is why the hikes have been larger and more frequent than typical.

If you’re looking for this cycle’s Comey, it’s not Powell, it’s Saudi Arabia (and the media for ignoring corporate price gouging as the primary cause of inflation).

Iwasthere

(3,168 posts)
12. So you don't believe his carefully crafted words had any impact?
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 12:32 PM
Nov 2022

Comey BS coming out days before the election was just enough to sway some away from Hillary Clinton. The markets dumping could be just enough to keep or get the Rs in. Did you read link in my OP?

Fiendish Thingy

(15,624 posts)
13. Nope. No evidence to support that perspective
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:27 PM
Nov 2022

The Fed has a meeting schedule regardless of elections, and acts based on economic fundamentals, not politics. Powell’s “carefully crafted words” are designed to inform and reassure the markets, not to sway voters.

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