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brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 09:59 AM Nov 2022

Report: Elon Musk set to fire roughly half of Twitter's workers

CBS News

Elon Musk is set to cut about 3,700 jobs at Twitter, representing about half of the company's staff, according to Bloomberg News.

The push to slash costs comes about a week after the Tesla CEO took control of the social media company following completion of his $44 billion purchase of Twitter. Musk immediately fired Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal, the company's chief financial officer and top lawyer, while other members of the company's leadership team have also left.

Twitter didn't immediately respond to a request for comment about the reported job cuts.

Musk overpaid for Twitter by about $20 billion, according to Wedbush analyst Dan Ives, who told CBS MoneyWatch that he believed that would force the billionaire to cut between 30% to 50% of the company's employees. In its most recent quarter, Twitter lost $270 million and its revenue slipped as advertising growth slowed.
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Report: Elon Musk set to fire roughly half of Twitter's workers (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2022 OP
Successful businessmen do not have to lay off thousands of their workers Walleye Nov 2022 #1
Perhaps Musk went over his head on this deal. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2022 #2
I'm starting to think business and politics don't mix together any better than religion and politics Walleye Nov 2022 #4
I Don't Know Where They Got Twenty ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #13
Actually, most successful businessman will take a look at the entire organization jimfields33 Nov 2022 #9
Absolutely!!! K&R!!! Laying off thousands of workers is a businessman RKP5637 Nov 2022 #17
Gonna drive it into a cesspool. Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #3
Twitter Bingo. jeffreyi Nov 2022 #35
It already is one. His irrational "leadership" may kill it though. themaguffin Nov 2022 #44
As I said, every last one of them should've just quit. ananda Nov 2022 #5
You quit you don't get unemployment benefits. Cattledog Nov 2022 #10
What, a few hundred per week? tinrobot Nov 2022 #37
That would be great for the company. No unemployment or money out the door. jimfields33 Nov 2022 #11
No stock options when you walk away RainCaster Nov 2022 #16
It's a private company now. I don't think anyone is getting options. nt Gore1FL Nov 2022 #23
Still under whatever contract they signed or were promised exboyfil Nov 2022 #25
Even SpaceX has stock options Johonny Nov 2022 #33
Of course they do RainCaster Nov 2022 #39
Never give up your rights as an employee exboyfil Nov 2022 #24
Who knew Twitter employed so many people n/t leftstreet Nov 2022 #6
I bet his packages Casady1 Nov 2022 #7
The article says "Fire" that means you get nothing. Cattledog Nov 2022 #12
not so sure prodigitalson Nov 2022 #20
These are mass economic layoffs and their are additional protections for employees exboyfil Nov 2022 #26
The high tech workers exboyfil Nov 2022 #28
Musk is used to revolving door workforce Johonny Nov 2022 #34
What Kind of Dipshit Overpays by $20B? Beetwasher. Nov 2022 #8
See Post 13 ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #14
Yeah, You're Probably Right Beetwasher. Nov 2022 #15
Yep, the employees are always the ones that suffer. And they generally are working their RKP5637 Nov 2022 #18
Very compliant bankers gave him lots of money exboyfil Nov 2022 #27
Those Bankers Should be the One's to Lose Their Jobs Beetwasher. Nov 2022 #32
Elon said 75 percent before purchase, he prefers Chines labor. sarcasmo Nov 2022 #19
I initially misread that as "Elon Musk to set fire to roughly half of Twitter's workers"... alterfurz Nov 2022 #21
So did I! Emrys Nov 2022 #43
All hail another job creator! GreenWave Nov 2022 #22
I feel like he's trying to destroy twitter Dorian Gray Nov 2022 #29
Fine by me if he burns through his equity doing that exboyfil Nov 2022 #31
Little Hitler is off to a rough start Gordolfon Nov 2022 #30
Hitler apparently made a lot of money from book sales. jeffreyi Nov 2022 #36
Not so fast. If you "fire" that many people, you legally have to give 60-day notice tinrobot Nov 2022 #38
From what I understand, Twitter has never made a profit yet. I could be wrong, but they (the SWBTATTReg Nov 2022 #40
Musk reminds me of a 3 year old who gets a new toy, breaks it apart Trailrider1951 Nov 2022 #41
And they wonder why people "Quiet Quit" Yavin4 Nov 2022 #42

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
2. Perhaps Musk went over his head on this deal.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:06 AM
Nov 2022

Paying $20 Billion above what Twitter was worth? Does not sound all that successful to me.

Advertisers revenues down and bailing are not good signs either.

ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
13. I Don't Know Where They Got Twenty
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:24 AM
Nov 2022

He paid $44 billion for a maturing company with $14 billion in assets.
That seems like $30 billion, to me.

jimfields33

(15,820 posts)
9. Actually, most successful businessman will take a look at the entire organization
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:21 AM
Nov 2022

Cutting some of the fat is not a bad idea. However, 50% might be a little overboard. I’m sure he’ll evaluate and come up with the right number. 7000 people working for one website seems excessive to me anyway.

RKP5637

(67,110 posts)
17. Absolutely!!! K&R!!! Laying off thousands of workers is a businessman
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:42 AM
Nov 2022

in a tight corner not knowing WTF to do, so they go after the vulnerable ones. And MSM loves it, making the hard decisions. When in reality, this is how sociopaths operate, not necessary a successful businessman, a sociopath just can't feel the pain.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
37. What, a few hundred per week?
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:44 AM
Nov 2022

Average salaries at Twitter are $150k/year, the really good people make well over $200k.

I doubt $450/week will make much difference in their decision.

Plus, most of them will be snatched up by other companies right after leaving.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
25. Still under whatever contract they signed or were promised
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:05 AM
Nov 2022

You take on those obligations when you acquire a company.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
24. Never give up your rights as an employee
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:04 AM
Nov 2022

Just make sure you are finding your next job in your spare time.

prodigitalson

(2,423 posts)
20. not so sure
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:51 AM
Nov 2022

I know several people who were fired from their jobs - for cause even - and still got unemployment. I think they had to jump through some hoops to get it. There is no conceivable way half the the workforce was fired for cause. I think they'll get it.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
26. These are mass economic layoffs and their are additional protections for employees
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:07 AM
Nov 2022

in many cases (advanced notification for example). Hope Musk has some good labor lawyers working for him (actually I don't hope because I want to see Musk finally get exposed).

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
28. The high tech workers
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:14 AM
Nov 2022

that remain will see how there peers have been treated.

Unless I am just a few years away from retirement I am aggressively working to get another job.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
34. Musk is used to revolving door workforce
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:30 AM
Nov 2022

It's how he runs Tesla and SpaceX. He has never had to face unions or worker protections.

Beetwasher.

(2,977 posts)
8. What Kind of Dipshit Overpays by $20B?
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:15 AM
Nov 2022

He's gonna completely demolish the place and liquidate everything he can, take the money and run. it's a slash and burn mission. Then leave the banks on the hook for all the loans. What a fraud. It serves everyone right who gets fleeced on this deal, they all deserve eachother. I feel bad for the employees though.

RKP5637

(67,110 posts)
18. Yep, the employees are always the ones that suffer. And they generally are working their
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:45 AM
Nov 2022

asses off trying to do a good job, but success is doubtful since their management is so F'ed up.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
27. Very compliant bankers gave him lots of money
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:09 AM
Nov 2022

With no coherent business plan. Must be nice to be part of the privileged class.

Beetwasher.

(2,977 posts)
32. Those Bankers Should be the One's to Lose Their Jobs
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:25 AM
Nov 2022

Their just as big dipshits as he is, though I guess it's not their money. Idiots all around and the little guys will pay the bill.

alterfurz

(2,474 posts)
21. I initially misread that as "Elon Musk to set fire to roughly half of Twitter's workers"...
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:54 AM
Nov 2022

...and thought: seems extreme, but not entirely unbelievable.

Emrys

(7,242 posts)
43. So did I!
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 12:56 PM
Nov 2022

I thought it might be a desperation stunt with the Tesla Not a Flamethrower to follow up the sink stunt.

It might be more entertaining in the long run if he set fire to his hair. That would get him some attention and might burn quite a while. Not that I'd really like to see that happen, of course.

I heard that when Twitter laid off staff in the past, they didn't have any problems finding new jobs immediately. I don't know if the tech scene has changed significantly since then.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
31. Fine by me if he burns through his equity doing that
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:19 AM
Nov 2022

What makes me angry are the bankers that have loaned money to him for this venture. There is no basis to make those loans unless they are secured in some fashion (which I doubt).

Websites are easy to recreate. Twitter can be replaced.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
38. Not so fast. If you "fire" that many people, you legally have to give 60-day notice
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 11:50 AM
Nov 2022

It's called the WARN act.

WARN protects employees, their families, and communities by requiring employers to give a 60-day notice to the affected employees and both state and local representatives before a plant closing or mass layoff. Advance notice provides employees and their families time to transition and adjust to the potential loss of employment, time to seek alternative jobs and, if necessary, time to obtain skills training or retraining to successfully compete in the job market.


https://edd.ca.gov/en/Jobs_and_Training/Layoff_Services_WARN

Personally, I think he's trying to scare people into quitting so he doesn't have to go through this process.

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
40. From what I understand, Twitter has never made a profit yet. I could be wrong, but they (the
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 12:08 PM
Nov 2022

Twitter folks) have been trying to monetize Twitter since its inception. I think that musk is going to come up w/ zero too, perhaps he might gain some businesses etc., but the overwhelming audience is the consumer, I suspect. In any event, I hope that those at Twitter get to exercise their stock options (usually when a company is bought out, the options become vested immediately, I can't see how musk can prevent that).

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
41. Musk reminds me of a 3 year old who gets a new toy, breaks it apart
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 12:18 PM
Nov 2022

and proceeds to throw a tantrum demanding the next amusing distraction.

$44 billion. What a waste! Think of the good he could have done with that money.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
42. And they wonder why people "Quiet Quit"
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 12:21 PM
Nov 2022

Imagine going above and beyond on a daily basis. Giving up watching your kid play baseball on the weekend because you were working on a project that had a tight deadline.

All of your sacrifice for absolutely nothing.

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