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Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 01:13 PM Nov 2022

Holy crap, I just got the most disgusting flyer in the mail!

Last edited Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Anybody else get one of these? It's from some outfit called "America First Legal," whose president is, of course, Stephen Fucking Miller. I can't imagine how I got on their mailing list, unless they stole it from the DNC or the ACLU, to which I have donated for years.




And no, I am not "sharing" right-wing sources. I am alerting DU to the existence of a loathsome new Nazi-adjacent organization which apparently has a fair amount of money behind it or they wouldn't be able to send out full-color mailings to pretty much everybody. This shit has gone mainstream.

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Holy crap, I just got the most disgusting flyer in the mail! (Original Post) Ocelot II Nov 2022 OP
Yikes Easterncedar Nov 2022 #1
Boy, they sure are figuring out racism sucks! forgotmylogin Nov 2022 #26
Is this the Stephen Miller group? Any idea? rurallib Nov 2022 #2
It is. I looked them up, and there's his Goebbels-lookalike face front and center. Ocelot II Nov 2022 #5
Racist lying pigs. LakeArenal Nov 2022 #3
They're pulling out all the dirty tricks in desperation now. live love laugh Nov 2022 #4
Evidently they have a commercial running in some areas saying this very same thing. scarletlib Nov 2022 #14
Got one as well; it's tied to the Supreme Court case. brooklynite Nov 2022 #6
I figured as much. Ocelot II Nov 2022 #9
Replacement Theory scare tactics must be working. jalan48 Nov 2022 #7
It would be great if we followed up on that with a mailing of our own pointing out their lies Scrivener7 Nov 2022 #8
They don't mention Herschel Walker? keithbvadu2 Nov 2022 #10
👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 onecaliberal Nov 2022 #38
+1000 wnylib Nov 2022 #61
Well their character is extremely ugly and vile! So... Initech Nov 2022 #67
I've been getting internet ads about Pres Biden hating Indians tishaLA Nov 2022 #11
Most Indians are Democrats IronLionZion Nov 2022 #62
"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression" is the root of all white GOP sop Nov 2022 #12
I clicked on this wondering if it would be the same flyer we got. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2022 #13
That makes sense PatSeg Nov 2022 #16
Nope, I'm as WASPy as they come, as is my surname. No idea why I got it. Ocelot II Nov 2022 #17
Was mailed to Asian neighbor put in my box by accident Demovictory9 Nov 2022 #22
Unfortunately the racists have gotten Asians to oppose affirmative action programs IronLionZion Nov 2022 #59
They're running the same shit on TV as a political ad here. Solly Mack Nov 2022 #15
The ad Nevilledog Nov 2022 #18
Not just Georgia. Here in Louisiana as well. Solly Mack Nov 2022 #57
OMG! I'm appalled that stations agree to run it. wnylib Nov 2022 #63
Facebook targeted ads Nevilledog Nov 2022 #19
If you were looking for a good reason to buy a Prius, this is it. Chellee Nov 2022 #24
He's hoping parents are racist? IronLionZion Nov 2022 #58
It's coming from one those UPS mailbox facilities. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2022 #20
I. Got one meant for my neighbor by accident. Demovictory9 Nov 2022 #21
Yeah, we got this garbage earlier this week. SeattleVet Nov 2022 #23
Does Stephan Miller realize he is Jewish and if these brown shirts ever Ray Bruns Nov 2022 #25
He has been effectively disowned by his Jewish relatives. Ocelot II Nov 2022 #28
Well, THAT'S good. Bastard! I guess he's thinks he's immune from anti-Semitism? electric_blue68 Nov 2022 #46
Like the capos who were last to go into the ovens. They thought they would be spared. keithbvadu2 Nov 2022 #55
Yeah, I did too Aviation Pro Nov 2022 #27
I used to work for a major airline, Ocelot II Nov 2022 #30
Yep, and we've upped the game from AQP to CBTA Aviation Pro Nov 2022 #33
Good, sounds like an improvement. Ocelot II Nov 2022 #36
It is Aviation Pro Nov 2022 #42
It is interesting to see Asians added to the mix. Behind the Aegis Nov 2022 #29
Like I said, these guys are Nazi-adjacent. The only difference I can see Ocelot II Nov 2022 #32
America First is a white supremacist movement started by Trump and Steve Bannon. Initech Nov 2022 #31
The America First Committee was an organization formed in the early '40s Ocelot II Nov 2022 #34
I was referring to the more current America First movement. Initech Nov 2022 #64
The current movement is a direct descendent of the earlier ones. Ocelot II Nov 2022 #65
Assuming we get past this ugly period, there will be a LOT to write about, in terms of the LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #35
It's so gross but this is the same tactic they are using to overturn affirmative action and it's not LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #37
His group has been running radio ads attacking trans kids in swing states, too... NullTuples Nov 2022 #39
Sub-group is "Citizens for Sanity." Grins Nov 2022 #40
Oh goody, I suppose I can expect this in our mailbox soon. geardaddy Nov 2022 #41
Too bad the paper is too stiff and smooth to be used in the bathroom. Ocelot II Nov 2022 #50
LOL geardaddy Nov 2022 #66
Indeed! LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #72
That is disgusting! Ohioboy Nov 2022 #43
Yes! Tracyjo Nov 2022 #44
Call the local news, tell them about this Warpy Nov 2022 #45
They aren't making a secret of who's behind it. Ocelot II Nov 2022 #47
Still, it would be nice to let the media know Warpy Nov 2022 #60
Horrific! Pacifist Patriot Nov 2022 #48
Deplorable. And so much more. They are emboldened and DOJ is understaffed. Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #49
And they're doing that bad-guy-shadow thing. calimary Nov 2022 #51
I've been getting bullshit texts from the GOP about JB Pritzker jcgoldie Nov 2022 #52
Remember the Willie Horton ad from GHWB's 1988 campaign? Ocelot II Nov 2022 #53
yep 1st thing I thought of as well jcgoldie Nov 2022 #54
Wait until you see what that asshole puts in Black and Latino neighborhoods IronLionZion Nov 2022 #56
On MSNBC just now (Nicole Wallace), Eddie Glaude said he got that mailer, too. Ocelot II Nov 2022 #68
Seems the guys crying out "why do you always make everything about race?!" Torchlight Nov 2022 #69
Equity ain't no code word. It simply means EQUAL UNDER THE LAW. TigressDem Nov 2022 #70
I just got one today in central Indiana. Makes me sick. LymphocyteLover Nov 2022 #71

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
26. Boy, they sure are figuring out racism sucks!
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:09 PM
Nov 2022

But they're also against CRT which would teach historically there were "whites only" fountains and swimming pools.

They want to equate this course-correction with that in reverse.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
5. It is. I looked them up, and there's his Goebbels-lookalike face front and center.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 01:17 PM
Nov 2022

He's its president.

Scrivener7

(50,955 posts)
8. It would be great if we followed up on that with a mailing of our own pointing out their lies
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 01:19 PM
Nov 2022

and saying how many jobs we have created.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
11. I've been getting internet ads about Pres Biden hating Indians
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 01:42 PM
Nov 2022

of all things. The voiceover is a woman with an Indian accent saying that Pres Biden is racist against Indians and doesn't care about Indian children--just because they're Indian. I've tried several times to catch who's paying for it and I think it says America First PAC, but I can't swear to it.

It's especially odd to me when you consider that VP Harris has Indian heritage an the fact that it seems like such niche advertising.

IronLionZion

(45,451 posts)
62. Most Indians are Democrats
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 04:34 PM
Nov 2022

It's just another way they try to divide people in diverse battleground states.

sop

(10,192 posts)
12. "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression" is the root of all white GOP
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 01:43 PM
Nov 2022

grievance.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
13. I clicked on this wondering if it would be the same flyer we got.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 01:44 PM
Nov 2022

It is. Straight into the recycling bin.

May I ask if anyone in your household is Asian American? The way the text is written, I almost feel like it's targeting Asian Americans and trying to split them off. Or maybe they just had to add someone other than white people so it would seem less racist.

IronLionZion

(45,451 posts)
59. Unfortunately the racists have gotten Asians to oppose affirmative action programs
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 04:28 PM
Nov 2022

so they get one minority to step on others. Kind of like the German Nazis using Japanese and Turkish against other peoples.

Nevilledog

(51,120 posts)
19. Facebook targeted ads
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:22 PM
Nov 2022


Tweet text:

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Facebook lets you see detailed targeting for political ads and this from Stephen Miller's Citizens of Sanity racists ads targeting

They excluded people that liked PETA, Toyota Prius, and Trader Joes but most targeted "Parents"

https://facebook.com/ads/library/?active_status=all&ad_type=political_and_issue_ads&country=US&view_all_page_id=107013225481098&search_type=page&media_type=all
Image
10:30 AM · Nov 3, 2022

Chellee

(2,097 posts)
24. If you were looking for a good reason to buy a Prius, this is it.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:58 PM
Nov 2022

As for me, I've been saved by my love of Trader Joe's.

"Citizens of Sanity" is very Goebbelsesque.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
23. Yeah, we got this garbage earlier this week.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 02:47 PM
Nov 2022

It was only in my wife's name, which is very Asian. She thinks that's why she was targeted for this crap.

Ray Bruns

(4,098 posts)
25. Does Stephan Miller realize he is Jewish and if these brown shirts ever
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:07 PM
Nov 2022

get into power, he’s one of the first to go?

Aviation Pro

(12,172 posts)
27. Yeah, I did too
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:14 PM
Nov 2022

This is the handiwork of that fucking bald headed fuck, Stephen "I Was Beat Up By a Latina Freshman When I Was a Senior" Miller.

My bile just rose when I saw that statement on pilots because as one and an instructor, I know that's not even close to fucking true given the pilot shortage we're experiencing right now.

How that fucking shitstain has avoided the glare of accountability is beyond me.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
30. I used to work for a major airline,
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:21 PM
Nov 2022

also in pilot training, and everyone was held to the same exacting standards. The airline went out of its way to standardize and quantify training goals and outcomes (AQP), overseen by the FAA, and I never saw anyone given a pass because of their race or other reason. Herr Oberkommandant Miller is trying to scare snowflakey white bigots into assuming a Black pilot must have been poorly trained because of affirmative action. There wasn't any such thing.

Aviation Pro

(12,172 posts)
33. Yep, and we've upped the game from AQP to CBTA
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:28 PM
Nov 2022

Competency-Based Training Assessment, you should see how we've aligned with ICAO on the evidence-based side and inter-rater reliability.

Aviation Pro

(12,172 posts)
42. It is
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:53 PM
Nov 2022

One of my mentors was part of the United team that implemented AQP. They collected the data the FAA wanted and the agency did nothing with it so the fleet managers started spreading it around to everyone going through recurrent was exposed to it and, well, you know how much it improved safety and overall quality of the operation.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
29. It is interesting to see Asians added to the mix.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:17 PM
Nov 2022

Anyone who has read in-depth about Nazi ideology knows they thought there were two superior races, white (Aryan, specifically) and Asian! I only learned this a few years back and was rather surprised, but in the Nazis estimation, the Asians (Chinese, specifally), were intellectually superior in many ways, and culturally as advanced as Aryans.




So, here we are again...the history mirror.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
32. Like I said, these guys are Nazi-adjacent. The only difference I can see
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:22 PM
Nov 2022

is that they won't use the word "socialist" in their organization's name.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
31. America First is a white supremacist movement started by Trump and Steve Bannon.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:22 PM
Nov 2022

No wonder it's filled with racist fearmongering bullshit.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
34. The America First Committee was an organization formed in the early '40s
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:32 PM
Nov 2022

to oppose American involvement in WWII on the ground that fascism wasn't our problem, and it soon took on anti-Semitic overtones, especially once Charles Lindbergh, known to have expressed anti-Semitic opinions, became publicly involved. But the slogan is even older:

The phrase “America First” became a national slogan in 1915. President Woodrow Wilson used it to tell the country that what were known as “hyphenate Americans” at the time, which is to say immigrant communities – German-Americans, Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans – needed to identify their loyalty. Was it “America First”, he demanded, or was it not? In other words, the President of the United States used the phrase “America First” as a loyalty test for recently naturalised American citizens. The slogan immediately exploded into a national catchphrase. Both Wilson his Republican opponent used it in the 1916 election, then it became a wartime jingoistic slogan on par, as was noted at the time, with “Deutschland über Alles”.

After the war, “America First” was used by isolationists, including William Randolph Hearst, to keep America out of the Treaty of Versailles and League of Nations. Then Warren G Harding successfully campaigned in 1920 on an isolationist, protectionist, “America First” platform, before the phrase was used to pass anti-immigration, eugenicist, restrictionist legislation in the mid-1920s. At the same time, a new political group was organising and asserting a national presence – the Ku Klux Klan. By the mid-1920s, the Klan had as many as five million members. In other words, one out of every three or four white Protestant American man was a Klansman.
More here: https://www.thebritishacademy.ac.uk/podcasts/10-minute-talks-america-first-and-american-fascism/

I have no doubt Stephen Fucking Miller is very familiar with the history of "America First" and its association with anti-Semitism and the KKK. And he approves 100%.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
64. I was referring to the more current America First movement.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 04:40 PM
Nov 2022

But I have no doubt that the historical context is based on nationalism and isolationism movements, neither of which are good.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
65. The current movement is a direct descendent of the earlier ones.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 05:25 PM
Nov 2022

Any time we hear "America First" in any context we know it's a right-wing trope.

LymphocyteLover

(5,644 posts)
35. Assuming we get past this ugly period, there will be a LOT to write about, in terms of the
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:33 PM
Nov 2022

incredibly despicable and racist ads and tactics used in this election.

LymphocyteLover

(5,644 posts)
37. It's so gross but this is the same tactic they are using to overturn affirmative action and it's not
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:35 PM
Nov 2022

New. It's Orwellian-- calling efforts to overcome racism as racist.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
39. His group has been running radio ads attacking trans kids in swing states, too...
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:40 PM
Nov 2022

No candidates mentioned, just pure Nazi style hate messaging.

Grins

(7,218 posts)
40. Sub-group is "Citizens for Sanity."
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:49 PM
Nov 2022

Falls under Stephen Miller’s “American First Legal.”

I saw one of their spots during the World Series and almost shit a tire-iron! Pissed the networks or MLB would allow it.

Got another one via email yesterday from someone I thought I knew. Going to fire it right back at him!

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
45. Call the local news, tell them about this
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 03:58 PM
Nov 2022

and maybe they'll investigate who's behind it. It looks like Klanner boilerplate to me, but there are other contenders these days.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
47. They aren't making a secret of who's behind it.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 04:01 PM
Nov 2022

It's Stephen Fucking Miller's organization, formed as a counter to the ACLU.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
60. Still, it would be nice to let the media know
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 04:32 PM
Nov 2022

I consider that excrescence on the body politic one of the worst threats to this country.

calimary

(81,308 posts)
51. And they're doing that bad-guy-shadow thing.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 04:12 PM
Nov 2022

Notice how Biden’s image is darkened ever so slightly? They do that A LOT. Subliminal messaging. I just hope WE do that, too, only bigger, badder, and MORE!!!

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
52. I've been getting bullshit texts from the GOP about JB Pritzker
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 04:16 PM
Nov 2022

With some shit about how he plans to release everyone from prison... usually accompanied with a mugshot of some random black male just to add a touch of racism to stoke the fear. I reply with "fuck off" but I don't think anyone sees it.

IronLionZion

(45,451 posts)
56. Wait until you see what that asshole puts in Black and Latino neighborhoods
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 04:23 PM
Nov 2022

Right-wing groups spend millions of dollars on ads targeting transgender kids
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/03/1133741967/right-wing-groups-spend-millions-dollars-ads-anti-transgender-kids

Stephen Miller group’s ads on race abandon any sense of subtlety
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/stephen-miller-groups-ads-race-abandon-sense-subtlety-rcna55243

Ex-Trump Aide's New Radio Ad Claims Biden Is Racist Towards White Americans
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/ex-trump-aides-radio-ad-194500205.html


Stephen Miller is the biggest pile of shit in America and has some stiff competition to achieve that title. He's spending tons of money in all the big battleground states to troll and outrage voters with complete lies.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
68. On MSNBC just now (Nicole Wallace), Eddie Glaude said he got that mailer, too.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 05:59 PM
Nov 2022

I guess that piece of shit is everywhere. He mentioned it during a discussion of the new movie Till.

Torchlight

(3,341 posts)
69. Seems the guys crying out "why do you always make everything about race?!"
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 06:05 PM
Nov 2022

are the ones who actually do make everything about race. It just so happens to be one particular race they make everything about.

The meme that goes 'even white people are getting tired of other white people's shit" is becoming more and more accurate (in my case) every damn day these bigots are given airtime, press, and headlines.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
70. Equity ain't no code word. It simply means EQUAL UNDER THE LAW.
Thu Nov 3, 2022, 10:29 PM
Nov 2022

Propoganda the old fashioned way, in the mail.


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