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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAn interesting take on Twitter, unrolled
https://balloon-juice.com/2022/11/03/late-night-open-thread-but-seriously-financing-elons-ego/Prof Paul Bernal
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Anyway, my tuppence worth on Musk and Twitter. Hes in for a rocky ride, and the question for me is whether his ego is going to make him destroy Twitter. Right now, whats pretty clear is that he doesnt understand what makes Twitter work. 1/10
2:58 AM · Nov 1, 2022
There are three things he doesnt seem to grasp. Firstly, he seems to think hes bought a tech company (not enough coders, too many managers) when what hes really bought is a community of users. 2/10
What makes Twitter work, what makes it potentially valuable, isnt the tech (which isnt that special) but the community that uses it that, in particular, its become the medium of choice of journalists and politicians. 3/10
Thats the value, right there. Every journalist worth their salt uses Twitter and most use it a lot. Ditto pretty much every politician. Theyre the user base he should care about, not the right-wing-nut-job community. But he doesnt even understand *them* 4/10
Right-wing-nut-jobs dont just want a place where they can rant, abuse and say whatever words they want. If they did, theyd be quite content with Gab, Parler, Truth Social, some bits of 4Chan, Reddit etc. See, theyve got plenty of spaces. 5/10
No, what they want is a place where they can rant *at the libs*, at the MSM, at the people they hate. If those people arent there (and they arent on Gab, Parler, Truth Social etc), the ranting isnt nearly as fun. So if Musk manages to drive the libs away, thats ruined. 6/10
If the libs are driven off, the right-wing will be jubilant for a while, but then bored. And then Twitter dies. So Musk has to keep the libs on board. Oh, and the advertisers too, because theyll run like hell if Twitters just a hate-speech hell-site. 7/10
And that means moderation. It means keeping the Nazis off the site. It means keeping control of abuse and hate speech. It means cutting down the misinformation. All things Musk doesnt want to do. If he turns Twitter into a hell-site, he kills it. 8/10.
So what can he do? Its not easy. Theres no simple solution, no magic wand. Free speech is bloody difficult. Id suggest he read Habermas, but of course he wont. So itll be messy, and I suspect hell just get bored eventually, but who knows? 9/10
Thats the thing. Handing over Twitter to a massive-ego, massive-wealth, unpredictable billionaire is kind of a metaphor for the whole way weve dealt with the internet. Its a mess. We just have to do what we can. 10/10
dweller
(23,641 posts)Sounds doomed
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Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Link to tweet
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ZonkerHarris
(24,229 posts)sop
(10,193 posts)a hell-site. I'm guessing it will.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Platform everyone switches to, people will hang in there.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)Places like Tik-tok and Twitch are real threats to Facebook and Twitter. They're newer with more modern AI built in and appeal to the younger generation marketers love.
Musk is gambling on turning Twitter into WeChat. That's a big long term goal which may not pan out. Note, a lot of Musk big ideas don't pan out.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)That no others do. It's the closest thing to a source for official information we have. From POTUS to CDC to DOJ to New York Times. It is the place where representatives of these organizations and thousands more make official statements. There may be plenty of more modern architectures out there...but this user universe took years to build. It would take years to dismantle.
Emrys
(7,242 posts)They cater for different user bases doing different things, with a few overlaps in fields like video sharing. And one of the things Twitter's good at is acting as a "shop window" for other sites' content, paid for or free.
The only realistic threat to Twitter is Elon Musk.
ZonkerHarris
(24,229 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,181 posts)Don't want to clue in Musk about what his company does or how it operates
CaptainTruth
(6,594 posts)When I think of Musk & Twitter I think of that Trump quote.
Musk's ego is so big he thinks he can do anything, like turn Twitter into some sort of idyllic "digital town square" by sprinkling Magic Musk Sauce on it, but of course he can't.
I have a feeling he's about to learn that the hard (& expensive) way.
Beetwasher.
(2,977 posts)and leave the banks and public with the bill and ruin all the employees lives.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)he's the smartest man in the world. He's playing four-dimensional Chess and the rest of the world is still looking for the Checkers board.
Esra Star
(2,166 posts)You have shaped your arguments well. Love your full stops. I hope Mr Musk reads your post.
Esra Star
(2,166 posts)Emrys
(7,242 posts)Maybe stating the obvious, but in his arrogance and ignorance, Musk may think he's "bought" those communities, but he hasn't. From the way he's been throwing his weight around with the threats of mass firings and trying to publicly "cut deals" for how much blue-tickers might be willing to pay for something that shouldn't be for sale in the first place and has more value to other people than to the blue-tickers themselves, he seems to be under illusion that he's done so.
He's bought the platform on which people like that and those who read and propagate what they produce have chosen to operate. For now, at least. That's all. If he can't grasp the value of that to him and his company, then he's headed for disaster even quicker than most assume.
What's largely behind any monetary value sites like Twitter have is the facility for data mining anyway. If his back-end firings compromise that, he's onto an even bigger loser.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)huge successful companies. He jumped so quickly. When it is much more prudent to take the time up front to thoroughly understand what was bought. In no world does it pay to antagonize and show you cards as he has. A simple "welcome" would have been a million times more effective.
Emrys
(7,242 posts)His impulsiveness cornered him into a deal he didn't really want and couldn't afford, and I suspect the humdrum business of running a social media site - which mostly means gradual improvements, smooth running and as little distractive disruption as possible - isn't something that's going to interest him for long. Meanwhile, the money hounds are going to be howling at his door.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)from the git go. And he didn't even have enough self control to abide by the "do not trash Twitter" requirement.
All that said, I hope against hope he gets his act together. Sure do wish he had stockholders to straighten him out.