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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 08:43 PM Nov 2022

Brittney Griner faces bleak life in Russian penal colony

LONDON, (Reuters) - Tedious manual work, poor hygiene and lack of access to medical care - such are the conditions awaiting U.S. basketball star Brittney Griner in a Russian penal colony after she lost her appeal last week against a nine-year drug sentence.

It's a world familiar to Maria Alyokhina, a member of feminist art ensemble Pussy Riot who spent nearly two years as an inmate for her part in a 2012 punk protest in a Moscow cathedral against President Vladimir Putin.

The first thing to understand, Alyokhina said in an interview, is that a penal colony is no ordinary prison.

"This is not a building with cells. This looks like a strange village, like a Gulag labour camp," she said, referring to the vast penal network established by Soviet dictator Josef Stalin to isolate and crush inmates.

https://sports.yahoo.com/brittney-griner-faces-bleak-life-153206557.html

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Brittney Griner faces bleak life in Russian penal colony (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2022 OP
And a large number of Americans admire Russia.. mountain grammy Nov 2022 #1
Unbelievable isn't it? I can't understand the people who admire Russia brer cat Nov 2022 #2
The far right love him... nycbos Nov 2022 #8
Because TheFarseer Nov 2022 #13
I wish it were unbelievable. Gore1FL Nov 2022 #16
Have you been writing about the other Americans there? BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #3
I follow and support the James W Foley Legacy Foundation mountain grammy Nov 2022 #11
Horrific iemanja Nov 2022 #4
Get the prisoner swap done.... WarGamer Nov 2022 #5
We offered to release an arms dealer known as the "Merchant of Death" nycbos Nov 2022 #7
Do NOT Steven Maurer Nov 2022 #10
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2022 #6
I see a very dark future for her. BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #9
Wonder if she is allowed packages or mail GusBob Nov 2022 #12
I wish we could rescue her. nt Ilsa Nov 2022 #14
My heart aches for Brittany. I followed her when at Baylor University iluvtennis Nov 2022 #15
Yes. This is how GULags worked. Igel Nov 2022 #17
"80 women lived in one room with just 3 toilets and no hot water"...gulag, yeah Shanti Shanti Shanti Nov 2022 #18

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
1. And a large number of Americans admire Russia..
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 08:53 PM
Nov 2022

and even my son said, well she knew the rules. I said I raised you better than that.

At least once a week I email my reps to remember her and bring her home.

brer cat

(24,568 posts)
2. Unbelievable isn't it? I can't understand the people who admire Russia
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 09:37 PM
Nov 2022

and Putin. What are they thinking?

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
8. The far right love him...
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:12 PM
Nov 2022

... because he is extremely anti gay and they see him as a "defender of Christianity." The far left likes him because they Russia as the successor state of the Soviet Union. These are the tankies who think Russian is "resisting imperialism." Of course the cognitive dissonance is that this is an imperialist war.

Which just goes to show you the circular nature of the political spectrum.

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
13. Because
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:42 PM
Nov 2022

They picture a strong dictator that doesn’t take any crap from liberals and banishes all the people they hate to Siberia. What’s not to like if you’re a delusional sociopath?

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
16. I wish it were unbelievable.
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 11:33 PM
Nov 2022

They Like Putin because he was white when Barack Obama was president.

I wish it were less simple than that.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
7. We offered to release an arms dealer known as the "Merchant of Death"
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:06 PM
Nov 2022

I want to bring her home as much as the next person. But I think the world is a better place with arms dealer in prison. Now if we could trade Donald Trump for her that something I can get behind.

Steven Maurer

(464 posts)
10. Do NOT
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:30 PM
Nov 2022

Because that rewards Russia for hostage taking, and will only incline them to do it more.

It's especially the case for Griner, who is only the most famous of about one hundred Americans stuck in this system, many of whom did absolutely nothing.

BigmanPigman

(51,607 posts)
9. I see a very dark future for her.
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:14 PM
Nov 2022

Maria was describing the conditions there. She was there for 2 years, Brittney will be there nine, if she survives that long. I wonder what the suicide rate is. I know I wouldn't last even nine months.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
12. Wonder if she is allowed packages or mail
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:38 PM
Nov 2022

Even in the worst of the Gulag prisoners were allowed mail from thei families

iluvtennis

(19,861 posts)
15. My heart aches for Brittany. I followed her when at Baylor University
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 11:19 PM
Nov 2022

and then throughout her WNBA career and BG is a very fragile person. She even suffers with mental health issues. I recall her stepping away from the WNBA a few years ago to work on her mental health.

I hate what Russia has done to her. She had played basketball in Russia for 5/6 years and brought her Russian team several championships and this is how she is treated.

I just pray that she can make it on this penal colony until the Biden administration can get her back home.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
17. Yes. This is how GULags worked.
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 11:33 PM
Nov 2022

At best. Some were horrendous.

In the '70s the "GULag archipelago" hit the mainstream.

In 1992 I was in a graduate-level Russian program. *Nobody* wanted to teach such literature. Some sympathized with the fallen USSR, some were embarrassed that they had done so.

That was the '70s. Slavistics resisted acknowledging what socialism wrought.

Same in the '80s.

And much of the '90s. By which time focus shifted to under-represented research--women writers, Kazakh/Kirghiz/Turmeni/etc. writers.

By 2005 the previous decades had shaken out.

USSR -- oppressive. The worst estimates of Socialist-era killings were confirmed plus: Stalin/etc. engaged Lloyd's of London to ensure their labor-meat. Like the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade, but 1900s and insured.

Under-presented writers were crap. F? Crap. Kirgiz? Crap. Kazakh? Crap. Why? Logic. Small populations with restrictive horizons. In mm1820s Britain women were educated, but had restricted horzons, and wrote "for the draw"--or under a pseudonym,. In Russia? Nope. *Perhaps* for the drawer.

In '93 I told grad colleagues it was crap. "No, they're undiscovered masterworks, patriarchy!" No, they were crap. Dissetrations written extolling crap. Gotta be embarrassing. (My MA thesis looked at crap Soviet satire; I have a rating on the citations index! But you know, under '70s Soviet repression there's only so much you can do. If you want. "My" author was milquetoast ... but by 1999 he was a shining star. Me? "No, the guy's milquetoast." I'm a slavicist, but linguist. Read broadly. You want want a literary rep of the GULags? Read Sorokin "Kolyma Tales." GULag archipelago? 2nd rate--per Aleksandr S. In the '90s few faculty in Slavic depts willingly taught Solzhenitsyn, It was penury, at best. Sorokin? Internet and Kamkin. Me? Yeah, lit. But I'm published in LI, WCCFL, for ling. Me, pigeon-holes ... Poot fit.

Sorokin is a tough read.(Just ask my literature undergrads.) I feel defiled reading Sorokin. Yet I read him. *ThAT* is an indigenous representation of an indigenous culture. It hurts--it's so not mine. I strive to understand, assimilate it--but it hurts. Seriouslyl hurts. While it hurts, the narrative makes sense. In that framework. And future stories/novels hurt less. But hurt more--as I deal with two concurrent "these values are universal" constraints, so, so at odds. And cope.

US politics? Sorry, do you like Chocolate ice cream with vanilla, or vanilla ice cream with chocolate? What? Each are 50-50. No, they're not opposites."

Next Friday Sorokin has a public talk at UNC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Sorokin

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