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dalton99a

(81,527 posts)
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 08:42 PM Nov 2022

U.S. privately asks Ukraine to show it's open to negotiate with Russia

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/05/ukraine-russia-peace-negotiations/
https://archive.ph/TOBLS

U.S. privately asks Ukraine to show it’s open to negotiate with Russia
The encouragement is aimed not at pushing Ukraine to the negotiating table, but ensuring it maintains a moral high ground in the eyes of its international backers
By Missy Ryan, John Hudson and Paul Sonne
November 5, 2022 at 6:29 p.m. EDT

The Biden administration is privately encouraging Ukraine’s leaders to signal an openness to negotiate with Russia and drop their public refusal to engage in peace talks unless President Vladimir Putin is removed from power, according to people familiar with the discussions.

The request by American officials is not aimed at pushing Ukraine to the negotiating table, these people said. Rather, they called it a calculated attempt to ensure the government in Kyiv maintains the support of other nations facing constituencies wary of fueling a war for many years to come.

The discussions illustrate how complex the Biden administration’s position on Ukraine has become, as U.S. officials publicly vow to support Kyiv with massive sums of aid “for as long as it takes” while hoping for a resolution to the conflict that over the past eight months has taken a punishing toll on the world economy and triggered fears of nuclear war.

While U.S. officials share their Ukrainian counterparts’ assessment that Putin, for now, isn’t serious about negotiations, they acknowledge that President Volodymyr Zelensky’s ban on talks with him has generated concern in parts of Europe, Africa and Latin America, where the war’s disruptive effects on the availability and cost of food and fuel are felt most sharply.
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U.S. privately asks Ukraine to show it's open to negotiate with Russia (Original Post) dalton99a Nov 2022 OP
Hmm It's not so private since it was posted in the newspaper lol Meowmee Nov 2022 #1
Putin can win the war by being a bully, blocking food and fuel to the world. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #2
I suppose the US has to appear to be trying to bring about peace. PortTack Nov 2022 #3
Playing nice and reaching across the isle isn't working for us here. Let's not push it Hotler Nov 2022 #4
Answer ... lpbk2713 Nov 2022 #5

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
1. Hmm It's not so private since it was posted in the newspaper lol
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 08:47 PM
Nov 2022

It’s not so private since it was posted in the newspaper lol

Not a good move in my opinion

Irish_Dem

(47,140 posts)
2. Putin can win the war by being a bully, blocking food and fuel to the world.
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 09:14 PM
Nov 2022

He cannot win militarily so he will win by bullying the world to force Zelensky to surrender.

The world is being very foolish, this will only embolden Putin and he will know he can
take whatever he wants, he will force his will on everyone.

Russia will be unstoppable.

China, Saudi, Iran, North Korea will follow suit.

China will invade Taiwan and get away with it by threatening all kinds of consequences to the US.

PortTack

(32,778 posts)
3. I suppose the US has to appear to be trying to bring about peace.
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 10:17 PM
Nov 2022

Concerns in part of EU? France, Italy, Spain since the beginning of the war have tried to push for peace. Putin is a bigger threat to them than he is to the US..they know this. Guess they forgot their history.

Or..maybe the US is trying to “remind” those countries, there is no dealing with a terrorist. President Zelensky made many overtures early on and Poopin ignored him. Poopin will continue to ignore President Zelensky until the orcs are driven out

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