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Nevilledog

(51,132 posts)
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:29 PM Nov 2022

OH: Cuyahoga Cnty Board of Elections announces last minute changes to polling locations in 7 cities




https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/political/elections-local/cuyahoga-county-board-of-elections-announces-last-minute-changes-to-polling-locations-in-7-different-cities

CLEVELAND — The Cuyahoga County Board of Elections has made changes to polling locations ahead of Tuesday’s midterm elections to 29 precincts in seven different municipalities.

Over 24,000 voters are affected by the changes to precincts in Berea, Cleveland, North Olmsted, Solon, South Euclid, University Heights and Warrensville Heights that were announced by the board of elections Thursday afternoon.

Below are complete details on which voting locations have changed from a CCBOE news release:

Berea: Voters in two precincts have been moved out of Berea Branch Library at 7 Berea Commons.

Voters who live in Ward 1, Precinct B and Ward 4, Precinct A will now vote at the Berea Recreation Center at 451 Front Street.

Voters in two precincts have been moved out of the Berea Recreation Center at 451 Front Street.

Voters who live in Ward 5, precincts A and C will now vote at the Berea Branch Library at 7 Berea Commons.

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OH: Cuyahoga Cnty Board of Elections announces last minute changes to polling locations in 7 cities (Original Post) Nevilledog Nov 2022 OP
WTAF? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #1
I smell Voter Suppression from Cha Nov 2022 #11
Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) is run by fascists? brooklynite Nov 2022 #31
Before you think up a new conspiracy theory... brooklynite Nov 2022 #34
In Ohio, at least, all BOEs are. n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2022 #41
Sounds like it to me Rebl2 Nov 2022 #64
Hmmm, I smell shenanigans afoot MagickMuffin Nov 2022 #2
The election site is conveniently down. Nevilledog Nov 2022 #4
Cuyahoga county is heavily dem. LisaL Nov 2022 #7
and thats why the state will fuck with them ZonkerHarris Nov 2022 #28
The state didn't make the changes. Cuyahoga County BOE made the changes. n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2022 #42
Why are they doing it so close to the election? LisaL Nov 2022 #43
That I don't know. Ms. Toad Nov 2022 #47
Well that's the problem. LisaL Nov 2022 #48
It depends on when the changes were actually made. Ms. Toad Nov 2022 #51
I wonder if they had a qOP infiltration like what they've done in Atlanta ecstatic Nov 2022 #56
But of course they'd close Democrats polling locations MagickMuffin Nov 2022 #8
Map of changed polling locations. n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2022 #44
Fbi investigate this blatant voter suppression questionseverything Nov 2022 #3
It was four days before the election SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #5
Yea, if you are going to change polling location, at least do it in advance so people LisaL Nov 2022 #12
exactly. Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #63
It needs to be the fbi, there's no point in them investigating themselves questionseverything Nov 2022 #21
I don't expect the BoE to investigate themselves SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #22
How do they justify changing polling locations so close to the election? LisaL Nov 2022 #27
I don't know how they would justify it either SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #40
My bad SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #45
The May change was for the primary. LisaL Nov 2022 #46
Yes, I understand that SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #49
the chain of decision on this should be well publicized certainot Nov 2022 #33
Bingo. I agree 100%. ecstatic Nov 2022 #52
They send letters to affected voters? LisaL Nov 2022 #6
I share your sincere doubt. W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #9
Wonder what internal polls show...they must be very worried. They changed my polling place to Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #10
I grew up in that area and even in the 1980's and 1990's dsc Nov 2022 #13
Clearly it is a mess. LisaL Nov 2022 #14
dems need to get shuttles/transportation ready for those who don't get the message and name those certainot Nov 2022 #36
Ok, local Ohio dems: Make sure you've got people at the old polls sending people to the new place lindysalsagal Nov 2022 #15
they ought to have limos and busses with certified dem drivers at the old sites shuttling to the certainot Nov 2022 #35
Good point. This is truly unbelievable! Nr ecstatic Nov 2022 #53
WTH? Kick appalachiablue Nov 2022 #16
Not good. Baitball Blogger Nov 2022 #17
Cheaters gonna cheater.... RANDYWILDMAN Nov 2022 #18
This really infuriates me! Diamond_Dog Nov 2022 #19
Anyone still on Twitter, RT this... OhioChick Nov 2022 #20
ALL DEMOCRATIC VOTERS budkin Nov 2022 #23
Tim Ryan needs to be all over this with ads and social media BComplex Nov 2022 #24
good idea, and providing shuttles to the new places certainot Nov 2022 #37
As if we're all glued to our TVs for last minute changes. Has to be illegal. elias7 Nov 2022 #25
Are there voter hotlines up and running for this election? Sogo Nov 2022 #26
Yikes! This can't be good!! What a mess! Ninga Nov 2022 #29
WTF is the reason for this if not nefarious? triron Nov 2022 #30
We are going to need to put people at the polls to direct those who go to the wrong ones... Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #32
As to that, you would be wrong. Ms. Toad Nov 2022 #50
It might be working 11pm on Sunday night, but what happens Monday or Tuesday ecstatic Nov 2022 #54
Since some of the changes, at least, are not new changes I suspect this is Ms. Toad Nov 2022 #57
Thanks for sharing SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #58
Per the linked OP article, those were LisaL Nov 2022 #60
That is what the linked article says, Ms. Toad Nov 2022 #65
FWIW, I texted my daughter in South Euclid this info Maeve Nov 2022 #38
Good idea. LisaL Nov 2022 #39
This smells MustLoveBeagles Nov 2022 #55
JUST IMPLEMENT VOTE BY MAIL! Thunderbeast Nov 2022 #59
OH allows absentee vote by mail. LisaL Nov 2022 #61
Can't get on Twitter anymore. 🫤 FeelingBlue Nov 2022 #62

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
43. Why are they doing it so close to the election?
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:33 PM
Nov 2022

It clearly is a very bad idea. I can't even find the changes on their website.

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
47. That I don't know.
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:47 PM
Nov 2022

I was addressing the suggestion that the state was messing with Cuyahoga County because it was democratic. It wasn't the state which messed wtih the precincts at the last minute.

Three are because the polling location were in buildings which are closing or undergoing renovatiosn
Two are returning to the original polling location after being temporarily moved elsewhere while the location was being renovated
One is the original building unable to accommodate changes which were apparently made to precincts in September
One is a scheduling conflict
Two are in the same physical location - but the name of the building changed
One is because the building flooded

I didn't find a date for each of these announcements - or why any non-emergency changes weren't announced early if the announcement yesterday was the first announcement. The map is labeled recent changes - but they might well have been announced as they were made, with a single announcement intended to be a helpful reminder.

I didn't hear any scuttlebut about anticipated changes to polling locations in Cuyahoga County in the boiler room training yesterday.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
48. Well that's the problem.
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:49 PM
Nov 2022

A lot of people likely have no clue their polling location changed. So they will show up on Tuesday at a wrong location.

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
51. It depends on when the changes were actually made.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:06 AM
Nov 2022

In previous years a notice sent out about this time in advance of elections was a reminder, not the first notice. I haven't been able to track down whether this is a similar reminder of previously announced information - or new changes.

If it's a heavily democratic precinct, the party will have observers there who can help direct voters to precinct. I'm in the county south, so aside from yesterday's training I don't have substantive information. But not everything that seems initially alarming really is, when the dust settles - and there is a whole lot of alarmism going on here (suggesting the state changed the locations (it is a county level decision), or that they were changed by republicans to suppress the vote (all BOEs in Ohio are evenly split Republican/Democrat), calling for the FBI to investigate, etc. Even whether this is the first notice of the changes is not clear, or just a reminder (as seems their habit from prior years).

People need to chill and get their facts straight before declaring it a 10-alarm fire.

ETA: The changes to Warrensville Heights precincts were made no later than October 11 (Change notice posted on Warrensville Heights City website). I'm not going to keep tracking individual changes - but clearly the notice was a reminder for at least some of the changes (not a brand new announcement).

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
56. I wonder if they had a qOP infiltration like what they've done in Atlanta
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:56 AM
Nov 2022

Rethugs dominating the election boards in heavily Democratic counties. These people will stop at nothing to get/retain power.

MagickMuffin

(15,944 posts)
8. But of course they'd close Democrats polling locations
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:47 PM
Nov 2022


Just can’t win fare and square. There’s a lot of voters about to be disenfranchised!


I just hope the DOJ gets wind of this


questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
3. Fbi investigate this blatant voter suppression
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:38 PM
Nov 2022

Changing polling places two days before the election to confuse and suppress the vote

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
5. It was four days before the election
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:40 PM
Nov 2022

but yeah, I agree that this needs to be looked at. Don't know that the FBI needs to get involved at this point, but I would be interested to see what the reasoning was and who made the decision.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
12. Yea, if you are going to change polling location, at least do it in advance so people
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:54 PM
Nov 2022

know their location is changed. Don't change the location few days before the election. This is just going to cause mass confusion.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
22. I don't expect the BoE to investigate themselves
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 09:15 PM
Nov 2022

but are there no state law enforcement agencies?

And looking at the Cuyahoga County elections website, this seems to be a pretty common thing for them to do. Doesn't make it right, but I would prefer to hear what the explanation is before bringing in the FBI.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
27. How do they justify changing polling locations so close to the election?
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 09:25 PM
Nov 2022

I would like for them to give an explanation. As it is, I can't even find the announcement on their website.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
40. I don't know how they would justify it either
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:29 PM
Nov 2022

But when I was looking at the website earlier, looks like they did the same thing during the primary (different part of the county, but same thing - last minute change.)

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
45. My bad
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:40 PM
Nov 2022

It wasn't on their site, it was when I did a Google search re: the changes they announced on 4 Nov.

They announced a change of precincts for the May 3, 2022 election on Apr 27, 2022...WTF?

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/04/cuyahoga-county-boe-announces-polling-location-changes-for-58-precincts-in-may-3-primary.html

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
46. The May change was for the primary.
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:42 PM
Nov 2022

Now they are changing location for the midterms, that they announced on Nov 4.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
49. Yes, I understand that
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:53 PM
Nov 2022

My point is that they seem to have a habit of changing polling places right before an election, which is obviously not good.

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
52. Bingo. I agree 100%.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:46 AM
Nov 2022

Republicans are engaging in criminal activity and this needs to be addressed immediately. How many millions of dollars worth of outreach is now wasted, with people having received information on where to vote and how to do it, and NONE of that information is relevant anymore?

Will Google and all the other voter information websites have up to date accurate information now? Will everyone be dependent on the slow and possibly non-working /overloaded Ohio government website?

As far as comments that have pointed the finger at Cuyahoga county, I assume that Cuyahoga has to follow the direction of the governor and legislature. They can't exactly tell state officials to fuck off.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
6. They send letters to affected voters?
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:42 PM
Nov 2022

I sincerely doubt those letters will even arrive before an election.

W_HAMILTON

(7,869 posts)
9. I share your sincere doubt.
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:48 PM
Nov 2022

As an aside, I live in a red-state hellhole and recently applied for Medicaid benefits for my elderly mother. I officially applied back in August, I'd say. We subsequently received a letter stating that her application had been received and that they needed more information; no problem, I gathered all the information they requested and sent it back. We received another similar letter later on, asking for more information, but this time around, it included some voter registration paperwork to be filled out in case my mom hadn't already been registered to vote. The only problem? When we received the letter, the deadline to register had already passed.

They could have just as easily sent that same voter registration paperwork along with their first letter, but nope. They waited till the second letter, whereby the time we had received it and could have acted on it, the deadline to register had already passed for our state.

Fuck Republicans, anywhere and everywhere.

Demsrule86

(68,600 posts)
10. Wonder what internal polls show...they must be very worried. They changed my polling place to
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:49 PM
Nov 2022

in Bedford for the primaries...not everyone votes in the primaries so I bet there are some that don't know.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
14. Clearly it is a mess.
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:57 PM
Nov 2022

I know that area well. People living in those areas could very well lack transportation. That is if they are even aware their polling place has changed. Who does this a few days before the election? There a very few blue counties in OH, and Cuyahoga is the bluest of them all.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
36. dems need to get shuttles/transportation ready for those who don't get the message and name those
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:12 PM
Nov 2022

responsible

lindysalsagal

(20,693 posts)
15. Ok, local Ohio dems: Make sure you've got people at the old polls sending people to the new place
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:58 PM
Nov 2022

Or Ohio has no chance. This bites, big time. Is this legal?

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
35. they ought to have limos and busses with certified dem drivers at the old sites shuttling to the
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:09 PM
Nov 2022

new sites

Diamond_Dog

(32,015 posts)
19. This really infuriates me!
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 09:01 PM
Nov 2022

Who is f***ing around with the election here?! This is totally unacceptable!

If these locations were heavy Rethug they’d all be screaming their heads off!

BComplex

(8,054 posts)
24. Tim Ryan needs to be all over this with ads and social media
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 09:22 PM
Nov 2022

I hope it pisses off a lot of democrats who were going to sit out this election.

Demsrule86

(68,600 posts)
32. We are going to need to put people at the polls to direct those who go to the wrong ones...
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 10:56 PM
Nov 2022

I am betting the info won't be on the website-assuming the website is even up

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
54. It might be working 11pm on Sunday night, but what happens Monday or Tuesday
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:52 AM
Nov 2022

When more people learn that their polling place has changed? Will the site be able to handle that much traffic? I really hope so but I'm not confident. Hopefully voter information sites are already on top of this and have already downloaded the updated information.

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
57. Since some of the changes, at least, are not new changes I suspect this is
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 01:27 AM
Nov 2022

a tempest in a teapot.

Cuyahoga County has a history of sending a reminder a few days before the election about all of the changes since the last election. At least one of the changes in the announcement that triggered this firestorm (Warrensville Heights) took place prior to October 11, and is posted not only on the county BOE, but on the city website. I haven't checked them all. I just picked one at random, and confirmed it fell into prior year's patterns of reminding folks of earlier announcements about precinct changes.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
58. Thanks for sharing
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 01:31 AM
Nov 2022

From your experienced viewpoint.

Huge difference between 3 days notice and almost a month’s notice.

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
65. That is what the linked article says,
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 11:45 PM
Nov 2022

But the one I randomly checked was not a last minute change. It was announced in early October. The press doesn't always get things right, and taking a minute or two to check before spreading alarm is helpful.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
38. FWIW, I texted my daughter in South Euclid this info
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:24 PM
Nov 2022

She checked and her polling place is still the same, but she was glad to have the heads-up. If you know folks who might be affected....

Thunderbeast

(3,417 posts)
59. JUST IMPLEMENT VOTE BY MAIL!
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 02:12 AM
Nov 2022

This is not exotic rocket science.

The west coast and other states eliminated in-person voting years ago. It is convenient, secure, and not subject to this kind of mischief.

There is no pressure to complete your ballot with hundreds of people waiting in line for your booth. More time to actually consider the down-ballot decisions in the comfort of your home.

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