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In It to Win It

(8,256 posts)
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 06:05 PM Nov 2022

Federal judge has enjoined much of New York's post-Bruen attempt at expanding gun control

Mark Joseph Stern
@mjs_DC

Judge Suddaby once again finds a right to carry a conceal firearm in:
•airports
•houses of worship
•public parks
•zoos
•buses
•bars
•theaters
•conference centers
•mental health facilities
•public protests

Gabriel Malor
@gabrielmalor

Fed. judge has preliminarily enjoined much of New York's post-Bruen attempt at expanding gun control as "patently unconstitutional." (There had been a TRO in place. This is the PI.)

Judge will *not* stay the PI pending appeal. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco







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Federal judge has enjoined much of New York's post-Bruen attempt at expanding gun control (Original Post) In It to Win It Nov 2022 OP
So, how long before every whack job in the country/world Bettie Nov 2022 #1
Worse than that, Bruen taken literally would make essentially any form of gun restriction impossible Amishman Nov 2022 #3
This insanity is the direct result of the Extreme Court's disregard for the U.S. Constitution. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #2
This is an entirely self-inflicted wound by the state of NY NickB79 Nov 2022 #4

Bettie

(16,111 posts)
1. So, how long before every whack job in the country/world
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 06:07 PM
Nov 2022

is allowed to bring whatever guns they want to on planes? Seems that's the direction judges are moving.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
3. Worse than that, Bruen taken literally would make essentially any form of gun restriction impossible
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 07:35 PM
Nov 2022

I'm talking uzis in vending machines level insanity.

Bruen requires any form of gun control to have a US founding era parallel. The few gun laws in existence at the time were mostly focused on keeping guns away from slaves.

With the explicit rejection of means-end testing and any normal standard of scrutiny, Thomas has opened the asylum door wide.

The only hope is that judges will largely look past it the way they have generally disregarded the common use language in the Heller decision. Given the popularity of assault weapons, most bans on the probably would run into conflict with Heller, but sane and sympathetic judges have been upholding state laws on this anyway.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
4. This is an entirely self-inflicted wound by the state of NY
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 09:19 PM
Nov 2022

All they had to do was model their firearms laws upon what the vast majority of states already have. And yes, that includes the vast majority of BLUE states. They could have used Massachusetts, California, Minnesota, New Jersey, etc as templates, but instead they came up with ideas that were just ridiculous. Telling private properties like churches who they can and can't allow on their property? I could see that being overturned simply on a separation of church and state basis. Requiring you give the state access to your social media account? That is begging for a lawsuit over personal privacy infringement right there.

They created a collection of legal obstacles to concealed carry so onerous and patently illegal that it was just a matter of time before they were struck down. And once struck down, the state leaves itself in a worse position than it was in before. Eventually they'll just end up modeling their CCW laws after other Democratic states just because it will be their only option left. And they'll have wasted millions of taxpayer dollars in the process.

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