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I thought Beto had a good chance (Original Post) malaise Nov 2022 OP
Too many stupid people here. hamsterjill Nov 2022 #1
Thanks malaise Nov 2022 #2
I understand your sentiment, but Texas voted blue governors not that long ago. jimfields33 Nov 2022 #3
1995??? hamsterjill Nov 2022 #6
G E R R Y M A N D E R I N G MagickMuffin Nov 2022 #9
That might explain house races, but not governor or senator jimfields33 Nov 2022 #14
You are correct, but then again, so was I by stating stupid people vote here MagickMuffin Nov 2022 #17
So true. I can't believe that wonderful democratic governor Ann Richards was 1995! jimfields33 Nov 2022 #20
Early 90s was a LOOOONG time ago Jskudris55 Nov 2022 #10
there's bdamomma Nov 2022 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill Nov 2022 #4
He was only two points behind at one point. ananda Nov 2022 #5
I never thought he'd win calguy Nov 2022 #7
Every election PatSeg Nov 2022 #8
Just wait till 2026 when Dan Patrick becomes Governor Polybius Nov 2022 #27
If Dan Patrick becomes Governor, Greg Abbott will look good by comparison. Paladin Nov 2022 #39
That is a good point PatSeg Nov 2022 #43
It's never gonna flip vercetti2021 Nov 2022 #47
I wish I could say you are wrong, PatSeg Nov 2022 #50
Wonder if he will lose to cruz again in 2024? He helped win a lot of House seats the last time krawhitham Nov 2022 #11
I wouldn't be surprised if we find out later that there was rampant voter suppression and fraud. GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #12
Arizona candidate saying same thing. jimfields33 Nov 2022 #16
Considering all but one of the election officials in charge there are Republicans, GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #21
No...Texas is just plain old red LeftInTX Nov 2022 #29
No way was he going to win. BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #13
Glad you got your shot in. BradAllison Nov 2022 #19
Lol, no idea what you're on about. BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #22
Yeah that comment was never going to fly in Tx's nt EX500rider Nov 2022 #59
Honestly EnergizedLib Nov 2022 #15
Ted Cruz is a shitty campaigner who only plays to his base LeftInTX Nov 2022 #30
Too many people insist "any day now" BradAllison Nov 2022 #18
What the fuck is wrong with Texas? Mariana Nov 2022 #23
Fox News! Initech Nov 2022 #24
And the churches. Mariana Nov 2022 #25
Churches, AM radio, Fox - it's all a big circle jerk. Initech Nov 2022 #32
I never did, TX is red and is not turning blue anytime very soon Celerity Nov 2022 #26
Same here Catherine Vincent Nov 2022 #33
To win statewide in TX, Dems need to go young and Latino. Yavin4 Nov 2022 #28
He's more popular online than in real life Sympthsical Nov 2022 #31
same problems with WTF is happening in GA with nearly 50% of the electorate voting for Walker onetexan Nov 2022 #34
I thought so too. I really like him. He is a decent guy. TX doesn't deserve him. nt Samrob Nov 2022 #35
12 million eligible voters in Texas didn't vote. gldstwmn Nov 2022 #36
Yep blogslug Nov 2022 #38
That's it right there. When we vote, we win. If a failing power grid, school shootings and gldstwmn Nov 2022 #42
He lost in 2018, a Democratic wave year, to a super-unlikable Ted Cruz. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2022 #37
Texas and Florida are lost causes. sarcasmo Nov 2022 #40
"Hell yeah we're taking your guns" dsp3000 Nov 2022 #41
I live here and we're in the same boat as Florida budkin Nov 2022 #44
My elderly mom voted absentee for this very reason from her old state JCMach1 Nov 2022 #48
I never thought Beto had a chance in Texas. Galraedia Nov 2022 #45
It's Texas iemanja Nov 2022 #46
Note, we have a Rep. AG under active FBI investigation and we still JCMach1 Nov 2022 #49
Beto bdamomma Nov 2022 #51
Texas has no Democratic ground game. ananda Nov 2022 #52
The Texas Democratic Party needs major re-working. Paladin Nov 2022 #56
Beto would be great in another State forthemiddle Nov 2022 #53
Thank the California migrants eissa Nov 2022 #54
Nope. He was never going to win. boston bean Nov 2022 #57
I'm sure I know less than many here about Texas politics, Mr.Bill Nov 2022 #58

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
1. Too many stupid people here.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:13 AM
Nov 2022

Sixth generation Texan here. And I mean that comment.

The majority of the people that I know here who vote Republican do it because they are too fucking stupid to see beyond their Friday paycheck and see that there are bigger problems than which McDonald’s hamburger they’re going to splurge on when they get that paycheck on Friday.

MagickMuffin

(15,950 posts)
9. G E R R Y M A N D E R I N G
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:34 AM
Nov 2022


That’s all it takes carve a little bit here and a large mass there and wallah, Democrats lose and republicons win.

Plus Texas has a lot of stupid people who vote, unfortunately for the rest of us critically thinking citizens.


MagickMuffin

(15,950 posts)
17. You are correct, but then again, so was I by stating stupid people vote here
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:24 PM
Nov 2022


That is the only explanation out there at this point.


Thx for the reminder, still early in the morning for me.


jimfields33

(15,912 posts)
20. So true. I can't believe that wonderful democratic governor Ann Richards was 1995!
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:28 PM
Nov 2022

Time flies. Texas has gotten dumber and stupid. What a combo.

bdamomma

(63,917 posts)
55. there's
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 04:30 PM
Nov 2022

a lot of people like that scattered around the country, but Texas, Florida and Arizona seem to be focused on. Very strange people out there.

Response to malaise (Original post)

ananda

(28,873 posts)
5. He was only two points behind at one point.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:27 AM
Nov 2022

I hate to say this, but Abbott's immigrant stunts
and Texas's bigotry won the election, along with
the fact that the Democratic Party as a whole
had no ground game.

Last week I met two women putting out Dem
flyers to all the college students, saying it was
the first time they'd been contacted.

Also, they both had signed up with three different
groups to drive people to the polls (including)
Travis County Democratic hq), and
never heard from any of them.

Now that's a shame too.

calguy

(5,324 posts)
7. I never thought he'd win
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:28 AM
Nov 2022

If he wants to remain in politics, he needs to run for a Texas legislature seat.
He's got local appeal, but as far as state-wide or national appeal, he doesn't have what it takes.
Not that any democrat does in Texas.

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
8. Every election
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:33 AM
Nov 2022

I hold out hope that Texas will finally turn at least purple. I'm pretty much ready to just give up on them. I cannot imagine how much worse a governor could be than Abbott.

Polybius

(15,465 posts)
27. Just wait till 2026 when Dan Patrick becomes Governor
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 06:35 PM
Nov 2022

They keep getting worse. Who would have thought that of the last three, Bush would be the best?

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
43. That is a good point
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:43 AM
Nov 2022

They do seem to be getting progressively worse. It is almost like a perverse contest.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
47. It's never gonna flip
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:16 AM
Nov 2022

We need to get off that mindset that it will due to demographic shifts. Latino's are falling for the GOP horseshit and voting for them here and in FLA. Both states are total lost causes and need to be treated as such by the DNC. Focus on Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina and start gaming up some ground in Wisconsin before it becomes a solid red state in the future.

PatSeg

(47,560 posts)
50. I wish I could say you are wrong,
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 02:59 PM
Nov 2022

but all evidence tends to agree with you.

I lived in Texas almost 50 years ago for a short time. It was really bad then and sadly, it has only gotten progressively worse over time. I thought that perhaps with so many big businesses moving to Texas, that might help bring the state into present day reality. I've known people from the north who moved there because of their jobs, but apparently they aren't enough influence to make a noticeable change.

When I drove out of Texas, I swore I'd never set foot in the state again and I never have. I did meet some great people while I was there, but unfortunately they were in the minority.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
12. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out later that there was rampant voter suppression and fraud.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:45 AM
Nov 2022

Just like with Florida, where DeathSentence's and Little Marco's margins were larger than expected. Two corrupt peas in a pod.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
21. Considering all but one of the election officials in charge there are Republicans,
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:34 PM
Nov 2022

it wouldn't surprise me.

LeftInTX

(25,496 posts)
29. No...Texas is just plain old red
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 06:39 PM
Nov 2022

Beto carried my county at 58%. However, the gerrymandering is so bad, that several district races were lost big time.

However, Texas is one freak'n red place.

People on DU get mad. "Polls are fake, don't believe them", until a positive poll comes out. The positive poll stays up and the not good polls are ignored. A few days ago, I had a post about Texas and I was attacked. My post was based on actual voting totals. I kept going back to people's homes to remind them to vote. They admitted that they had not voted.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
22. Lol, no idea what you're on about.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 06:28 PM
Nov 2022

I don’t live in Texas, but I knew that wasn’t going to happen.

LeftInTX

(25,496 posts)
30. Ted Cruz is a shitty campaigner who only plays to his base
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 06:40 PM
Nov 2022

Abbott has better commercials. His commercials gloss over and try to play to the middle. "Greg Abbott has overcome adversity", "I call him Tio Greg"

Cruz is not afraid to admit what he does. Cruz would do something like show his bacon gun shooting in a commercial.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
28. To win statewide in TX, Dems need to go young and Latino.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 06:36 PM
Nov 2022

They need a candidate that can swing the Latino vote and excite young people. Preferably an unknown or little known candidate.

Sympthsical

(9,091 posts)
31. He's more popular online than in real life
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 06:46 PM
Nov 2022

Which should've been apparent before he became the nominee this cycle, but maybe now that reality will be firmer for people.

He needs some wilderness time to do things other than perennially running for office.

And we need to think about running someone who can actually maybe win in that state.

onetexan

(13,056 posts)
34. same problems with WTF is happening in GA with nearly 50% of the electorate voting for Walker
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 07:01 PM
Nov 2022

the US has a sickness of ignorance among many of its citizens unfortunately.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
42. That's it right there. When we vote, we win. If a failing power grid, school shootings and
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 07:21 PM
Nov 2022

Christo fascism won't get people off the couch in TX I don't know what will.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
37. He lost in 2018, a Democratic wave year, to a super-unlikable Ted Cruz.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 07:10 PM
Nov 2022

I really didn't think he'd do better this year, which was worse overall for Dems.

budkin

(6,713 posts)
44. I live here and we're in the same boat as Florida
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:49 AM
Nov 2022

There is massive voter suppression. It's extremely difficult for the poor to vote here, especially after the double whammy of ultra partisan gerrymandering and scores of new voting restrictions implemented in the last legislative session. It's a nightmare.

JCMach1

(27,566 posts)
48. My elderly mom voted absentee for this very reason from her old state
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:29 AM
Nov 2022

It is extremely hard to even just get an ID, or DL for TX.

You cannot vote without that TX ID with correct address.

Galraedia

(5,026 posts)
45. I never thought Beto had a chance in Texas.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:51 AM
Nov 2022

Texas, like Florida, is heavily rigged with republican voter suppression and years of conservative indoctrination.

iemanja

(53,041 posts)
46. It's Texas
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:51 AM
Nov 2022

That's what's wrong with it. Beto was never going to win. That should have been clear from the last time he ran. It's not that he isn't a great candidate. It's that he lives in Texas.

JCMach1

(27,566 posts)
49. Note, we have a Rep. AG under active FBI investigation and we still
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:32 AM
Nov 2022

Could not beat even him...

That's TX in a nutshell.

bdamomma

(63,917 posts)
51. Beto
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 04:01 PM
Nov 2022

will make another comeback, I read that he could be too progressive for some voters. Crap,I wish he beat Abbott. Abbott has too much dark money coming in, just my opinion.

ananda

(28,873 posts)
52. Texas has no Democratic ground game.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 04:03 PM
Nov 2022

We are a very large state, and our Democratic
Party is very weak on campaigning these days.

Beto's organization and town halls were very
good, but community organizing on the ground
was virtually nonexistent.

Paladin

(28,269 posts)
56. The Texas Democratic Party needs major re-working.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 04:56 PM
Nov 2022

Just as soon as possible. Lots more Democrats should be currently winning elections, based on the strength of the party in the big cities.

Beto's a good guy, but I figured he was toast, with the poorly thought-out comments on guns. And once Abbott got desperate a few days before the election and started running that "Poor me! I'm stuck in a wheelchair! Gimme your vote!" campaign ad, it was lights out.

forthemiddle

(1,381 posts)
53. Beto would be great in another State
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 04:11 PM
Nov 2022

But a statewide election in Texas is a no go.
The same thing could be said about Pete Buttigieg. He, unfortunately, would never win statewide in Indiana (where I live). He may be the best possible pick, but he won’t ever get statewide support.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
54. Thank the California migrants
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 04:12 PM
Nov 2022

For all their hatred of California, Texas conservatives should be kissing the feet of those Californians who have moved there. The vast majority are republicans who cashed out and moved for ideological reasons. I know 4-5 who left "Commiefornia" and relocated there, ensuring Texas remains red for the foreseeable future.

Mr.Bill

(24,312 posts)
58. I'm sure I know less than many here about Texas politics,
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 05:12 PM
Nov 2022

but I think Beto committed Texas political suicide when he said during the 2020 Presidential primary debates, "Yes, we are coming for your guns" (or something like that). Not that I wouldn't like to see that happen, but a huge mistake in a state like Texas.

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