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applegrove

(118,749 posts)
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:18 PM Nov 2022

Am I wrong that this refuting of MAGA and the GOP will make GOP

house members more to the center in their voting? I mean many races are very close. Will that temper the crazy right wing voting in the House? It is like the fever broke a bit.

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Am I wrong that this refuting of MAGA and the GOP will make GOP (Original Post) applegrove Nov 2022 OP
We can only hope. calguy Nov 2022 #1
I don't know. Elessar Zappa Nov 2022 #2
Maybe some..certainly not the craziest of them..JMHO PortTack Nov 2022 #3
If they were a rational party, one would think so. Sky Jewels Nov 2022 #4
+1 spooky3 Nov 2022 #9
NO kwolf68 Nov 2022 #5
When in doubt, they double down Cosmocat Nov 2022 #14
They're not refuting MAGA, they just perhaps want someone else to embody it, IMO. Wingus Dingus Nov 2022 #6
I think it depends. Claustrum Nov 2022 #7
Perhaps in the long run. chriscan64 Nov 2022 #8
They will never do this. GreenWave Nov 2022 #10
They have never moderated. al_liberal Nov 2022 #11
Just posted exactly the same thing Cosmocat Nov 2022 #15
Not going to happen zonemaster Nov 2022 #12
Likely not. Caliman73 Nov 2022 #13
Probly depends on the makeup of the electorate griffi94 Nov 2022 #16
That makes sense. applegrove Nov 2022 #18
That depends on the district tinrobot Nov 2022 #17
I doubt it. CentralMass Nov 2022 #19
TBD Johnny2X2X Nov 2022 #20

Elessar Zappa

(14,022 posts)
2. I don't know.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:19 PM
Nov 2022

One would hope so but at this point the crazy has a life of its own and may not easily be bottled back up.

Sky Jewels

(7,131 posts)
4. If they were a rational party, one would think so.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:19 PM
Nov 2022

However, I wouldn't be surprised if they just doubled down and amped up the crazy. They don't have much else--certainly not any popular policies to push.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
5. NO
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:20 PM
Nov 2022

Picking up a single Dem seat will see to it they "have a mandate". Mind you when Dems win elections, even big numbers, the talking point is always "this is no mandate". To the Repukes they WILL have a mandate to go as totally batshit crazy as they want.

ZERO chance that party moves toward the center. ZERO chance.

Wingus Dingus

(8,059 posts)
6. They're not refuting MAGA, they just perhaps want someone else to embody it, IMO.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:20 PM
Nov 2022

They can get all the same nasty ugly authoritarian christofascist bullshit in a younger/less embarrassing package, they think.

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
7. I think it depends.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:20 PM
Nov 2022

The crazy MAGA ones will still be crazy. The "I need their votes" so I say what they want kind of republicans (or so called moderate republicans) might soften their stance and could possibly work with us.

GreenWave

(6,763 posts)
10. They will never do this.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:23 PM
Nov 2022

Make them cross the aisle first. They are way past due for anything big in that regard.

al_liberal

(420 posts)
11. They have never moderated.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:23 PM
Nov 2022

They have only doubled down on their strategy of fear and hate at every juncture. They will not now moderate either.

zonemaster

(232 posts)
12. Not going to happen
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:28 PM
Nov 2022

That requires critical self-evaluation and a reading of the room, which isn't the 'echo chamber'. They are in cult-mode, and waking up and deciding to leave the cult is pretty tough to do, even for people that aren't being propagandized multiple hours a day from 10 different directions.

Assume with 95% certainty that they'll never leave the cult and resort to rational thought and dialog. Make plans based on that high-likelihood.

Caliman73

(11,742 posts)
13. Likely not.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:32 PM
Nov 2022

It will take more than a couple of electoral losses for things to change.

This is a Conservative problem. When Conservatives lose, they will often blame the candidate and not the ideology. They love the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. It wasn't that Conservative ideas are not in line with what most people want, it is that the candidate wasn't conservative enough.

I personally don't think that the Republican party, so long as it adheres to a Conservative ideology, will be able to pull itself out from the extremism that has ended up with.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
16. Probly depends on the makeup of the electorate
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:50 PM
Nov 2022

The electorate in their districts.
The ones from swing districts will need to be
more moderate. The ones like MTG that are from
solid, safe, red districts will continue with the crazy.

tinrobot

(10,913 posts)
17. That depends on the district
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:53 PM
Nov 2022

The solid red ones will continue as normal. Those in close races have to walk a tightrope where they don't upset their most conservative voters while simultaneously appealing to the middle.


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