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USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:35 PM Nov 2022

Georgia Senate numbers getting weird

So earlier this morning I looked at the site below and Warnock was at 49.3 with 36,000 outstanding ballots, then about an hour ago Warnock was at 49.5 with 39000 outstanding votes….I am watching MSNBC now and they show Warnock now at 49.6, so I went back to the site and it shows him at 49.6 and there are now even more outstanding votes 44,000….so Warnock’s % is going up and the number of votes left to count is also going up….hell, I know they have already called a runoff I think he can get to 50.1%

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-elections/georgia-senate-results?icid=election_statenav

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Georgia Senate numbers getting weird (Original Post) USAFRetired_Liberal Nov 2022 OP
Don't forget the third candidate in your calculations Raven123 Nov 2022 #1
Seems if he does, then no runoff. triron Nov 2022 #2
Are they updating the total number based on the mail in ballot received daily? Claustrum Nov 2022 #3
Don't know USAFRetired_Liberal Nov 2022 #5
Interesting Mz Pip Nov 2022 #4
That is what they said and why they said it will be a runoff USAFRetired_Liberal Nov 2022 #7
3.8 million votes. Warnock needs .4% Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2022 #11
Thanks USAFRetired_Liberal Nov 2022 #12
Well I'm not much help. Lol Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2022 #24
No it's 15,200 based on the numbers you gave Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #19
Oops. That's what I get for (wrongly) using a calculator. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2022 #23
It's always estimates. Johnny2X2X Nov 2022 #6
recounts never favor the loser.. agingdem Nov 2022 #9
Ossoff benefited from the runoff USAFRetired_Liberal Nov 2022 #10
Just need 50% and one vote. TheBlackAdder Nov 2022 #8
Yep, 50% plus one vote ornotna Nov 2022 #15
Back of envelope calc Warnock needs 38,000 of the remaining 44,000 votes to get to 50%. honest.abe Nov 2022 #13
Seeing this happen in other races too ColinC Nov 2022 #16
These are just estimates. honest.abe Nov 2022 #22
That makes sense. Thanks! ColinC Nov 2022 #25
1% of 4 million is 40k. Warnock only needs 0.4%. triron Nov 2022 #17
I did the calc again in more detail.. honest.abe Nov 2022 #21
Looking at the map, the counties with the most remaining votes are lees1975 Nov 2022 #27
According to my calculations Warnock would need 88% of the remaining votes. honest.abe Nov 2022 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author ColinC Nov 2022 #26
Oh wow ColinC Nov 2022 #14
Oliver has 2.1% with 81,187 votes so Jersey Devil Nov 2022 #18
I think you need to add in almost 1/2 of the votes outstanding triron Nov 2022 #29
Some ballots can be received as late as Monday the 14th Cattledog Nov 2022 #20

Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
3. Are they updating the total number based on the mail in ballot received daily?
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:38 PM
Nov 2022

I am sure most state still allows ballots received from oversea to keep counting. Some allows ballots postmarked on or before election day.

Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
4. Interesting
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:38 PM
Nov 2022

If he hits 50% wouldn’t the Republicans demand a recount?

Not sure how all that works.

Maybe there just aren’t enough outstanding votes votes to put Warnock at 50%.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
7. That is what they said and why they said it will be a runoff
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:41 PM
Nov 2022

Because there wasn’t a enough outstanding ballots left, but the number has went up from 36,000 this morning to 44,000 now…

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
19. No it's 15,200 based on the numbers you gave
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:01 PM
Nov 2022

3,800,000 * .004 = 15,200

But that has to be an ADVANTAGE, not a raw vote count.

So out of 44K that'd require just over a 2-1 advantage he'd need in the outstanding ones.

Without a compelling reason to think he's heavily favored in the outstanding set of 44K ... seems pretty unlikely.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
13. Back of envelope calc Warnock needs 38,000 of the remaining 44,000 votes to get to 50%.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:49 PM
Nov 2022

So very unlikely. Its is weird though the number outstanding is changing.

ColinC

(8,330 posts)
16. Seeing this happen in other races too
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:54 PM
Nov 2022

I wonder what it is. Provisional ballots maybe? More Same day mail arriving?

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
22. These are just estimates.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 02:08 PM
Nov 2022

They just dont know for sure how many more ballots are outstanding. So it gets adjusted as the real number becomes more clear.

Yes, it is probably ballots arriving in the mail. As well as more accurate counts of ballots dropped off.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
21. I did the calc again in more detail..
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:32 PM
Nov 2022

Warnock: 1948414
Walker: 1899672
Oliver: 81187
Writeins: 1588
Total votes processed: 3930861

Votes remaining: 44139
Total all votes: 3975000

50% of total: 1987500

Votes Warnock needs to get to 50%: 1987500 - 1948414 = 39086

Just not likely to happen.

However, this depends on the actual total remaining. 44139 is estimated. If there are alot more then that changes things.

lees1975

(3,879 posts)
27. Looking at the map, the counties with the most remaining votes are
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 03:31 PM
Nov 2022

Dekalb, estimated 9% where Warnock won 2 to 1
Fulton, Estimated 6% where Warnock won 3 to 1
Gwinnett, estimated 6% where warnock won 55-45
Clayton, estimated 3% where Warnock won almost 2 to 1.

Might be doable.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
28. According to my calculations Warnock would need 88% of the remaining votes.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 03:46 PM
Nov 2022

39086 / 44139 = 88.5%

Im sorry but that is not going to happen.

Response to triron (Reply #17)

ColinC

(8,330 posts)
14. Oh wow
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:50 PM
Nov 2022

Watch it get to 49.9 after all votes are counted. That would be our luck!


Also what are the chances of a recount??

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
18. Oliver has 2.1% with 81,187 votes so
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 12:59 PM
Nov 2022

81,087/2.1= 38,613 which is 1%

So Warnock would need about less than half of that, or about 19,000 votes to get to 50%. OK, math is not my strong suit, so where am I wrong?

triron

(22,020 posts)
29. I think you need to add in almost 1/2 of the votes outstanding
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 03:56 PM
Nov 2022

Because 0.4% (of the total) is what Warnock needs to GAIN.

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