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MyMission

(1,850 posts)
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 08:25 PM Nov 2022

Kentucky City's Mayor Picked by Winning Coin Toss After Election Ends in Tie

And it's not just Kentucky. Apparently 28 states use this method when there's a tie. Seriously?!?
I haven't looked to see which states, but I bet I could correctly guess at least 20, maybe 25.

"A mayor in Kentucky was officially elected after winning a coin toss due to the initial ballot results ending in a tie.

Incumbent Greg McElfresh and Mason Taylor each scored 55 votes in the City of Butler's mayoral race on Tuesday, with a third candidate, Joshua McGriffin, garnering 15 votes, ABC News reported.

According to Kentucky law, tied elections must be decided by "lots," meaning the winner will be selected at random, per ABC News.".....

"Kentucky is among 28 states which determine winners by drawing lots or similar methods to resolve a tied election, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Meanwhile, 14 other states will require a new election to be called if candidates end up garnering the same amount of votes in the race."

https://people.com/politics/kentucky-city-mayor-picked-winning-coin-toss-after-election-ends-in-tie/

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Kentucky City's Mayor Picked by Winning Coin Toss After Election Ends in Tie (Original Post) MyMission Nov 2022 OP
Here in Goldfield, Nevada, in 2008 I think NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2022 #1
So Nevada's another state that draws lots, or MyMission Nov 2022 #5
They won't let us do duels any more. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #2
I hear they're trying to bring them back MyMission Nov 2022 #4
Seeing How There Were 125 Votes Cast... ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #3
In a small town with low voter turnout MyMission Nov 2022 #6

NameAlreadyTaken

(978 posts)
1. Here in Goldfield, Nevada, in 2008 I think
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 08:36 PM
Nov 2022

an Esmeralda County Commissioner race resulted in an exact tie, and R.J. Gillum eventually won it - by a draw of cards.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
5. So Nevada's another state that draws lots, or
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 09:26 PM
Nov 2022

Draws cards or flips coins.

If the votes are tied, 28 states leave it to chance rather than asking voters to decide in a 2nd election. Saves time and money, but doesn't feel right to me.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
4. I hear they're trying to bring them back
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 09:21 PM
Nov 2022

Lol.

Okay I didn't hear that, but it wouldn't surprise me. By they I mean the GOPQ.

ProfessorGAC

(65,078 posts)
3. Seeing How There Were 125 Votes Cast...
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 09:04 PM
Nov 2022

...it probably doesn't matter much who wins mayor.
Our town had about 18 times those votes and a coin flip would have been OK here.
The city manager is in charge of everything that matters to the residents.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
6. In a small town with low voter turnout
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 11:53 PM
Nov 2022

There are fewer folks to complain or care about the outcome. But 28 states draw lots and only 14 hold another election. Not for all offices, but the fact that these rules exist is unsettling.

I clicked on a link to find out more about the states with this policy, and got an interesting breakdown on the 8 that don't fall into either category. Still didn't find the list of states in those 2 categories.

Montana, Tennessee and West Virginia determine winners by having the winner selected either by the governor or by the state board of elections.

Nevada and New Hampshire determine winners by a joint vote of the state legislature.

North Carolina bifurcates its tiebreaking system: if a state legislative election involves fewer than 5,000 votes, the tie is broken by the canvassing board which oversaw the election. If a state legislative election involves greater than 5,000 votes, a special election is held between the tied candidates.

New Jersey does not have a statute governing the breaking of tie votes.

Texas allows for either a special election or the tying candidates may agree to cast lots, or one candidate may resolve the tie by withdrawing from the race.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/resolving-tied-elections.aspx

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