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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:13 PM Nov 2022

Tonight's drop in Arizona is going to be important

This is going to be so so tight......and most likely why they are not calling the Gov yet.




About 90k of the remaining 170k uncounted EVs are from the ruby red CDs 5, 8, and 9. Another 70k from purple CDs 1 and 4.

.........................

Hobbs needs to keep this lot as close as possible. Hopefully they will be bluer than expected.

Fingers, toes, legs, arms and anything else will be crossed.
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Tonight's drop in Arizona is going to be important (Original Post) sunonmars Nov 2022 OP
Hopefully the EV (early votes?) are more skewed toward KarenS Nov 2022 #1
Oh god I hope so, i could not listen to that deranged Harpie for the next 4 years on TV screeching. sunonmars Nov 2022 #4
Voters REJECTED 2 MAGAts in Arizona ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2022 #2
They are losing by around 135K, Lake is only behind by 35K. Thats the difference. sunonmars Nov 2022 #3
Finchem lost? Yes! underpants Nov 2022 #5
Yes, he's 126K down, can't make that up with 295K left unless you're pulling a literal 80/20 sunonmars Nov 2022 #7
AG hasn't been called - it's tighter than Hobbs/Lake AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #14
Please. Mosby Nov 2022 #6
Its literally not over yet, i'd like it to be, it is for Senate, and AG sunonmars Nov 2022 #10
Don't need du. Mosby Nov 2022 #28
Shows what you know. My CD is 8 and the Dem is only ahead by 2,500 votes. Coventina Nov 2022 #25
Mendez is up by 15k+ Mosby Nov 2022 #27
Oops! Sorry, I typed the wrong legislative district. Coventina Nov 2022 #30
So, Mr. "It's Over" the Dem is now behind. n/t Coventina Nov 2022 #33
And, now the race has been called for the Puke Schweikert Coventina Nov 2022 #35
Fair point. Mosby Nov 2022 #36
Indeed. I'm a pretzel crossed moonscape Nov 2022 #8
The end of the count of 2020 near damn well stroked me out....too bloody close for comfort. sunonmars Nov 2022 #12
The EV are ready to take another daily dump on Lake. GreenWave Nov 2022 #9
I absolutely hope so. I want that witch,down,buried and someone smacking the earth with a shovel. sunonmars Nov 2022 #11
I trust Garrett but this has been the daily refrain since Weds. AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #13
We'll know one way or other tonight i expect. Its getting down to the wire now sunonmars Nov 2022 #15
If you're asking why she did better than Masters and the other one, that's easy Polybius Nov 2022 #16
Good thing she won't win... Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #31
Very good thing Polybius Nov 2022 #34
Probably all the negative press towards Hobbs AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #17
Exactly Happy Hoosier Nov 2022 #19
He tries to be scrupulously neutral AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #20
They just can't tell if its an 18 or a 20 vote, they can see the partisan breakdown sunonmars Nov 2022 #22
Exactly AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #23
It's not a done deal, but.... Happy Hoosier Nov 2022 #18
He isn't maing predictions - he's just saying where the votes come from AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #21
Yeah, I get that... Happy Hoosier Nov 2022 #26
Small drop but important sunonmars Nov 2022 #24
I don't think Lake gains much from the remaining votes based on this.. honest.abe Nov 2022 #29
Small drop in Pinal and Lake is not getting the margins in a GOP county sunonmars Nov 2022 #32

KarenS

(4,081 posts)
1. Hopefully the EV (early votes?) are more skewed toward
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:21 PM
Nov 2022

the Democrats bec the R's were encouraged to vote on 'the day'.

((fingers crossed))

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
4. Oh god I hope so, i could not listen to that deranged Harpie for the next 4 years on TV screeching.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:31 PM
Nov 2022

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
2. Voters REJECTED 2 MAGAts in Arizona
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:24 PM
Nov 2022

For Sec. Of State and AG there.

What makes Lake think she will not be rejected?

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
10. Its literally not over yet, i'd like it to be, it is for Senate, and AG
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:41 PM
Nov 2022

They have a large lead, but the other 3 are really in a fight for it.

However much we'd like it to be.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
25. Shows what you know. My CD is 8 and the Dem is only ahead by 2,500 votes.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:52 PM
Nov 2022

It is VERY important to me what this next batch of votes are.

You didn't have to click on the thread if you don't care.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
30. Oops! Sorry, I typed the wrong legislative district.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 04:08 PM
Nov 2022

My FEDERAL CD is #1

Where those stats apply.

Yes, it looks like Mendez is going to win for state.

I apologize for the confusion.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
35. And, now the race has been called for the Puke Schweikert
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 11:31 PM
Nov 2022

So, tell me again how it was "over" and I will have a Dem rep in Congress?

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,030 posts)
13. I trust Garrett but this has been the daily refrain since Weds.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:47 PM
Nov 2022

Every day is "this drop is the one to put Lake up". She's running out of room, she didn't do well in CD1 last night, and CD4 is NOT purple.
There seems to be an assumption that all R votes are going for Qari, along with half the I votes. That's just not happening.

Plus there's still 50K out in Pima, which have consistently been breaking 60/40 for Hobbs.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
15. We'll know one way or other tonight i expect. Its getting down to the wire now
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:50 PM
Nov 2022

Its clear though Hobbs and the other statewide Dems ran some way behind Kelly and Fontes.

I'm interested as to why just pure ticket splitting in various places?

Polybius

(15,446 posts)
16. If you're asking why she did better than Masters and the other one, that's easy
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:55 PM
Nov 2022

She's far, far more charismatic than they are. She's a darling of the far-right. If she wins, she'll be Trump's VP nominee (if he runs and gets the nomination).

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,030 posts)
17. Probably all the negative press towards Hobbs
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:56 PM
Nov 2022

There was also a 3rd party candidate in the Senate race, and Finchem was the worst candidate of the three.

Happy Hoosier

(7,329 posts)
19. Exactly
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:59 PM
Nov 2022

He seems well intentioned, but he keeps warning of a large swing that never seems to materialize. But the race is tight, so caution is advised.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,030 posts)
20. He tries to be scrupulously neutral
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:04 PM
Nov 2022

He won't make any calls or predictions for the ultimate result. All he's saying is where the votes are coming from, Charlie Kirk fans are swarming his posts making predictions of the content of those ballots, and they are basing it off 2020 results.
They're forgetting that Trump didn't win in 2020, and that Lake is underperforming Trump.
The conventional wisdom on Tuesday was that Hobbs needed at least a 10 point lead with the early votes out the gate.
She had 12 points.
Election day voting nuked that lead down to 5000 votes, but since then she's expanded her lead every day.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
22. They just can't tell if its an 18 or a 20 vote, they can see the partisan breakdown
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:06 PM
Nov 2022

but where that goes in reality is just unknown.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,030 posts)
23. Exactly
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:11 PM
Nov 2022

I think the breakdown of the remaining votes is something like 28D/38I/44R. Lake is losing the Independents and underperforming the Republicans.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,030 posts)
21. He isn't maing predictions - he's just saying where the votes come from
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:05 PM
Nov 2022

People have been reading into where the votes are left and expecting them to break hugely for Lake. So far they aren't.

Happy Hoosier

(7,329 posts)
26. Yeah, I get that...
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:55 PM
Nov 2022

He’s be cautionary, but not predictive. He backed off some of his earlier suggestions as the votes margins were not as big for Lake as some suggested they might be.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
29. I don't think Lake gains much from the remaining votes based on this..
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 04:04 PM
Nov 2022

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If you run the numbers using the average lean it comes to about 5000 votes gain for Lake. I did the estimates in my head so could be off a bit.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
32. Small drop in Pinal and Lake is not getting the margins in a GOP county
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 05:32 PM
Nov 2022



Pinal County has tabulated 4,055 ballots
Est. 12,226 EVs remain.

Batch breakdown
Governor
@KariLake
54.9
@katiehobbs
45.2

Senate
@bgmasters
50.9
@CaptMarkKelly
46.3

AZAG
@AbrahamHamadeh
55.5
@krismayes
44.5

AZED
@electtomhorne
55.4
@kathyhoffman_az
44.6
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