DOJ filing proves TFG looked at classified documents after leaving office

[Qutzupalotl]

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Link to tweet

Reup from last night (my time):

Trump's Secret Document, with the Post-Administration Pollster Communication, in His Desk Drawer

But in some ways this document is more damning: because it shows he was commingling stolen classified documents with his ongoing affairs after leaving the White House. It gets far closer to showing that Trump was using government secrets for his own personal affairs even after he left the White House.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/11/12/trumps-secret-document-with-the-post-administration-pollster-communication-in-his-desk-drawer/

A DOJ filing to Raymond Dearie yesterday reveals that Trump commingled 2 classified documents w/messages that post-date his departure from the White House, showing that he accessed classified docs AFTER leaving the White House.


On edit: changed title from “accessed” to “looked at” to make the charge more clear.

[Ocelot II]

1. But he'd already declassified them with his mind so it was OK.

[NotHardly]

24. If running for a political office stops the FBI and other law enforcement from arresting you...

I'm gonna run for office every day for the rest of my life!"
And I suggest the rest of you do so as well.

[RockRaven]

2. Of course he did. It isn't enough to *have* The Precious. You have to caress The Precious and

gaze longingly at The Precious and clutch The Precious close. You can't do that when The Precious is sealed up in a box.

[Qutzupalotl]

3. Time to seal Gollum in a box

if you know what I mean.

[Better Days Ahoy]

9. I'll be pellucidly clear:

Let's drop his orange ass in the nearest deep, deep sinkhole. Then throw a car and a mobile home in after it. Mamma didn't raise a word-mincer.

[Ocelot II]

33. He had the classified documents laminated to use as placemats

at Tiffany's wedding dinner.

[Blue Owl]

4. Once again, let's take a moment to contemplate the RW response if Obama did such a thing

[Fullduplexxx]

18. Why isn't the left?

[republianmushroom]

5. Why hasn't he been indicted DoJ. You keep tell us this crap but no indictment

22 months and counting.

[superpatriotman]

12. +1000

We're waiting...

[ailsagirl]

16. Ditto

What’s the holdup??

[Genki Hikari]

37. Maybe because the DOJ doesn't issue indictments

Grand juries do.

Might have something to do with it.

[getagrip_already]

6. what is happening with doj's expedited appeal to the 11th?

They accepted it, but so far no activity.

Just curious if anything has happened that didn't get reported well?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Boom! Although I can just hear him now. " I never know what date

It is, ask anyone "

[Ford_Prefect]

8. IMO this is a meaningful crime which is provable and which TFG filing for office cannot evade.

There may also be sealed indictments which would preclude any presumed protection for a filing candidate.

I don't think there is such protection this far out from the election and I believe prosecution for criminal acts would not be prohibited regardless of candidacy for any office. I can see a possible argument for limiting investigation of a candidate during a campaign but I don't see any reason to preclude prosecution of provable criminality.

IMO TFG is indicted before Xmas, possibly by Thanksgiving.

[Qutzupalotl]

26. I agree.

There were two sealed “cases” filed in DC on Saturday. We have no way of knowing what that is, but it does track with this new revelation. I hope to see action on this soon.

[megapuzzler]

10. So who INSIDE the White House got classified documents to TFG after he was out?

WTF!

[Probatim]

21. What are you talking about?

It's likely an email or letter trunt sent AFTER he left the office that's commingled with documents stolen from his time IN office.

[Qutzupalotl]

25. I believe he took the documents before he left office,

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but possessed them at the time of the dated materials mixed in with them.

I have edited my thread title to clarify.

[megapuzzler]

36. Thank you for clarifying

[agingdem]

34. That's what I've been asking..

I assume there are no post-dated documents so how'd he get them?..did that Patel guy hide them in his pants and walked out of the archives with classified documents?

[GreenWave]

11. What we need are never ending jail sentences

not out and about committing never ending crimes.

[halfulglas]

13. Well, of course he did. He just had to know what to brag about at the

Next wedding he dropped into at one of his clubs, on the golf course, or meeting with some foreign official or businessman (spy) who stopped to "visit." He can't remember all (or any) of the documents he saw during the 4 years he had legal access to them. After all, he might need to hit them up for some more money.

[True Blue American]

14. Assessment on how dangerous YpTrump is.

[NBachers]

15. This is spy shit right there.

[LiberalLovinLug]

17. My biggest question is how many he has still hidden, or sold, or destroyed?

[Fullduplexxx]

19. Doesn't matter what he does

[agingdem]

20. The question is who removed the documents from the AFTER Trump left the White House?

is it Patel and is that why the DOJ gave Patel limited immunity?…

[Qutzupalotl]

23. They might not have been removed after he left office.

I think that would be nearly impossible.

Rather, I think he had the documents before he left, and reviewed them (or at leat possessed them) concurrent with the dated materials after he left office.

[OverBurn]

22. Above the law. It's getting very sad, they need to get their ducks in row and arrest his ass.

[Genki Hikari]

38. So talk to the grand jury

They're the only ones who can decide to indict.

[jmowreader]

27. Well...Trump wanted to make history

Being the first president to die in prison is probably not what he was thinking, but that's the way he's heading. I expect that after any runoff and ranked-choice elections are finished, six men bearing Extra Large handcuffs and leg irons will descend upon Mar-a-Lago at three in the morning to haul him off.

Question for all: If YOU were charged with bringing Trump in, would you frog-march him to a waiting police car, strap him to a gurney and push him into an ambulance, or pull a van up to the loading dock at Mar-a-Lago and load him out of sight of journalists?

[Boomerproud]

32. How many appeals will he file when it finally comes home to roost??

Ridiculous.

[Snackshack]

28. How much longer is...

TFG’s 💩 show going to go on for?

Why is it allowed to continue as some sort of legitimate grievance/power when a mountain of evidence including an admission (No, there is no Jedi mind trick to declassify documents) exists. Obvious high crimes and misdemeanors were committed. Why is he being allowed to be thought of as a legitimate potential candidate for President instead of the criminal he is. Our continued kid glove treatment of TFG is only hurting us.

[Justice matters.]

31. Exactly! Imagine President Obama ever doing 0.01% of what that stupid hair furhair did?

ALL the extreme RW medias and its echo chamber would be screaming 24/7 for his immediate indictment(s).

Can you imagine effin' Jeff Sessions or effin' Bill Barr EVER hesitating to send the FBI handcuff him??

Why always being so scared of what the above-mentioned propaganda machine would say?

"ooooh ... not before the election... ooooooh ... not before the runoff ... omg what will THEY say??"

NO! Enough EVIDENCE THE ENTIRE WORLD has SEEN to throw that LIFELONG CRIMINAL to the slammer!

[Snackshack]

35. If this was a Dem.

Any Dem, not just Obama that had done what DT did with a coup attempt and stealing National Secrets the GOP would have shutdown government down with trials and convictions until all the Dems associated were in jail or at the very least removed from congress…

…and that is just the coup and some documents…can you imagine what GOP would have done had Dems been in charge during a pandemic that resulted in over a million Americans dead after admitting to lying about how deadly it was or if they started a war based on a lie, tortured humans, let 19 people fly jets into building killing more Americans.

I would venture to guess that if Dems had been in charge during the string of catastrophes we have seen since 2000 and demonstrated such incompetence the GOP would have made a case (and rightly so) that the Democratic Party has lost the confidence of the nation and should no longer be allowed to be a credentialed political party that could potentially be in charge.

Because America cannot afford much more of this chaos and incompetence. If we end up giving the world another unfit & unqualified person as President who is in charge of the most powerful nation on the planet (for now). Who stabs allies in the back (remember the Kurds?) and does all they can to destabilize long standing as well as new agreements (Iran) then the world will have no choice to look elsewhere.

[Genki Hikari]

39. Because grand juries indict

Not the DOJ?

Without an indictment, there's not much the DOJ can do.

[Boomerproud]

29. Who else is on this? Shouldn't this be breaking news?

nt

[Qutzupalotl]

43. Guardian has it:

Link to tweet

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/14/donald-trump-handled-records-marked-classified-after-presidency-court-filing-alleges

[msfiddlestix]

30. So, another filing I guess? Lots of filings, no prosecutions.

[Genki Hikari]

40. DOJ can't prosecute without an indictment

Indictments come from grand juries.

They're the holdup.

[msfiddlestix]

41. ✔️

maybe this coming week we can start to see GJ Indictments? Now that the Voting is over. ??

[LetMyPeopleVote]

42. TFG broke the law and should be prosecuted

[OverBurn]

44. Who assembles a grand jury? In a case like this.

[Cha]

45. Good.. PROOF!!