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Time to do away with the Iowa Caucus (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2022 OP
It's Long Been Time to End the Iowa Caucus For a Few Reasons. Indykatie Nov 2022 #1
Caucuses should be banned as a method of selecting delegates in general. tritsofme Nov 2022 #2
I was on the Obama voter protection team for the last Texas two step LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2022 #3
And New Hampshire central scrutinizer Nov 2022 #4
Hell, there are more people in Los Angeles county than there in something like nine red states. OMGWTF Nov 2022 #17
Los Angeles county has more people living in it than the bottom 40 states n/t Victor_c3 Nov 2022 #20
Time for the DNC to bail. Sneederbunk Nov 2022 #5
Really.. I feel bad for the Cha Nov 2022 #6
K&R for, totally yeSsssss! UTUSN Nov 2022 #7
Kick! MontanaMama Nov 2022 #8
Kick dalton99a Nov 2022 #9
what if they held a caucus and no democrat came? orleans Nov 2022 #10
Well past time. iemanja Nov 2022 #11
I just don't want to see any more Ivy League lawyers try to look dignified Warpy Nov 2022 #12
I'm in Iowa. Sogo Nov 2022 #13
i could never figure out what good they do and how leagely binding these things are. AllaN01Bear Nov 2022 #14
I've Been Saying This For Awhile SoCalDavidS Nov 2022 #15
Ranked choice looks good. But stop treating red states as trash Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #16
I shouldn't rely on my memory but I don't think the winner of Tomconroy Nov 2022 #18
You should not rely on your memory. former9thward Nov 2022 #22
Democrats' next big fight: Which state goes first in the 2024 presidential primary LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2022 #19
One could argue that to win presidential races in the electoral college that Democrats Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #21

tritsofme

(17,399 posts)
2. Caucuses should be banned as a method of selecting delegates in general.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 11:49 PM
Nov 2022

Every Democratic voter deserves a secret ballot.

But I definitely agree, getting rid of Iowa’s first in the nation status is a no brainer.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,553 posts)
3. I was on the Obama voter protection team for the last Texas two step
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 11:53 PM
Nov 2022

Texas had both a primary and a caucus. Hillary Clinton won the primary contest but President Obama got more delegates due to the caucus portion of the Texas two step. There are a ton of games that be played in caucuses to skew the results

OMGWTF

(3,975 posts)
17. Hell, there are more people in Los Angeles county than there in something like nine red states.
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 02:44 AM
Nov 2022

That's 2 California senators vs. 18 Rethuglican senators who mostly represent dirt.

Cha

(297,629 posts)
6. Really.. I feel bad for the
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 12:16 AM
Nov 2022

Dems in Iowa but come on.. they're Not representative of America even before this happened.

And caucuses are Not Democratic.. a lot of states have done away with thm.

Not Tom Harkin's Iowa any more.

orleans

(34,073 posts)
10. what if they held a caucus and no democrat came?
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 12:41 AM
Nov 2022

(my question partially based on the following movie title)


Warpy

(111,338 posts)
12. I just don't want to see any more Ivy League lawyers try to look dignified
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 01:37 AM
Nov 2022

while eating a corn dog. It's not that I want to abandon Iowa Dems, I've known and liked quite a few of them, it's just the over the top cornball kitsch that isn't fooling anybody.

Enough, already!

Democrats stop doing that shit and maybe they won't come across as such phonies to people in ag states.

Sogo

(4,992 posts)
13. I'm in Iowa.
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 01:45 AM
Nov 2022

I’m no fan of caucuses. It’s a quaint, pre-20th century practice.
And if the Dems want to start elsewhere, so be it.

But just remember, Iowa launched Barrack Obama’s bid for the WH….

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
15. I've Been Saying This For Awhile
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 01:47 AM
Nov 2022

I'm not holding my breath that the Party will have the courage to change anything.

Tetrachloride

(7,865 posts)
16. Ranked choice looks good. But stop treating red states as trash
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 02:16 AM
Nov 2022

Get out to the countryside.

They say land doesn’t vote. Let me tell you it does. Climate change.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
18. I shouldn't rely on my memory but I don't think the winner of
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 05:01 AM
Nov 2022

The Iowa caucus usually ends up being the nominee.

former9thward

(32,077 posts)
22. You should not rely on your memory.
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 07:05 PM
Nov 2022

Since 1980 the winner of the caucus has been the Democratic nominee 8 times, not the nominee 3 times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,553 posts)
19. Democrats' next big fight: Which state goes first in the 2024 presidential primary
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 06:27 PM
Nov 2022

Neither Iowa nor New Hampshire reflect the demographics of the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party was fortunate that President Biden was able to hold on until South Carolina stepped in and settled the primary process.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/democrats-big-fight-state-goes-first-2024-presidential-primary-rcna57602?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_lw

With the midterm elections barely in the rearview mirror, the competition is heating up among states trying to move up in the presidential primary lineup. And states that delivered for Democrats are making the case that they should be rewarded.

Michigan Democrats — led by Rep. Debbie Dingell — feel well positioned to join the coveted ranks of the early states, after they made huge gains in the Nov. 8 election. With Iowa facing possible eviction from the early states, many expect Democrats to elevate a Midwest state.

Democrats now have full control of the Statehouse in Lansing, which would allow them to easily change state laws to support a new date for the 2024 primary.

“It does change the calculus,” a Democrat with knowledge of the discussions among national party leaders who requested anonymity to speak freely said after Michigan Democrats claimed a trifecta in the governor’s office and the two legislative chambers. “Michigan jumps over Minnesota, it’s just that simple. Minnesota was the fallback. Michigan is a key state.” .....

Unspoken in her letter is that many expect Iowa, which is viewed as too white and too red, to lose its coveted first-in-the-nation spot. If so, there will likely be a desire to replace it with a Midwest state to complement the other three early states, which are currently New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina.
 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
21. One could argue that to win presidential races in the electoral college that Democrats
Sat Nov 19, 2022, 06:39 PM
Nov 2022

need to win races in some places that may not "look like our party."

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