WTF????

[LAS14]

I assume it's OK to not like this. Or is it? What's going on here??????

https://www.thecollegefix.com/princeton-black-queer-bdsm-course-features-porn-essay-by-professor-arrested-for-theft-from-pro-life-demonstrators/

How do you react to Princeton's new course offering?

EDIT: I learned that The College Fix is a conservative site, so here's the description from the Princeton course catalog: https://registrar.princeton.edu/course-offerings/course-details?term=1234&courseid=016732

EDIT: The link above is to the course description for "Black + Queer in Leather: Black Leather/BDSM Material Culture"

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. I'm definitely not interested in reading an article about it from a conservative website.

Besides that, what is there not to like?

[LAS14]

2. Can you tell me more about the website? nt

[mahatmakanejeeves]

4. The College Fix

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_College_Fix

[LAS14]

6. See my edit to the OP

[obamanut2012]

5. The question is why do you not vet the sources you post?

[LAS14]

7. See my edit to the OP. Basically what I read was just facts, not opinion. nt

[obamanut2012]

8. Again, why do you not vet the sources you post?

[LAS14]

12. Why should I vet a source when it offered no opinion, just a summary of a course and..

... a link to the Princeton catalogue? A better question might by, why would you not read a story in a conservative web site just because it was conservative? (I'm referring to the first reply from WhiskyGrinder.)

[WhiskeyGrinder]

20. "why would you not read a story in a conservative web site just because it was conservative?"

Because I have better things to do with my time, especially when it comes to breathless hand-wringing from a story planted by the *checks notes* Anscombe Society, lmao.

[obamanut2012]

34. Oh please, just stop

[Demsrule86]

36. Delete this post.

[walkingman]

3. I wish they had these kinds of courses when I was in college 50 years ago - wonder

how many females attend?? Might make for some good study groups? 😋😋

I know, I know, I'm a dirty old man!!!

[Dysfunctional]

37. Best course I ever took in college was Botany taught by Professor Drum, 1967-1968

He allowed his students to smoke weed in class. I really can't remember what the class was about. I did learn something from him, he told us that if we were stoned when studying for a test, we should be stoned when we take the test. Okay, I had to edit, I also liked speech class because I was dating my teacher, I was a year older than her.

[Elessar Zappa]

9. Man, I shoulda gone to Princeton!

[MineralMan]

10. It's a college course. Are you a student at that school?

If not, I can't see how such a course affects you in any way at all. I'm pretty sure it's not a mandatory course for any student, though.

It sounds like you don't like the idea of such a course being offered at all. Is that correct? Please tell us why. Are there other college courses you don't think should be offered??

[LAS14]

16. I'm fascinated by curiculums at all levels. They mold much of the character of our society.

As I indicated in the OP, my initial reaction is that I don't like it. But I posted to find out if there's more going on here than I understand.

[MineralMan]

17. Yes, it was obvious that you didn't like it.

Nobody else seems to have a problem with such a course being taught, though. So, I asked you for more information, since you offered no reason for posting that here, except perhaps to explain that you don't like it.

Maybe you should send a letter to the DOJ about such courses.

[LAS14]

19. "you offered no reason for posting that here, except perhaps to explain that you don't like it."

"But I posted to find out if there's more going on here than I understand."

You would do well to read the posts you reply to more carefully.

[MineralMan]

27. Oh, I read them carefully. More carefully that you might expect,

I think. I also visited all links mentioned in the thread and read what was at those links. Why does it concern you? What "more" is going on there than you understand, and why does that bother you?

I think, based on my close reading of your OP, that you find the subject "icky" for some reason, and that you're fishing for someone to agree with you.

I mean, you posted it, not I. I'm just curious about why you posted it. That I find interesting.

[LAS14]

28. "and that you're fishing for someone to agree with you."

I find this misinterpretation typical of your reaction to my posts over the years.

[MineralMan]

29. Oh, OK...

[obamanut2012]

35. Hey MM

How did you like the projection in that reply to you?

Hope you are doing well!

[MineralMan]

38. Doing great! We won...

Projection? Whatever can you mean?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

21. To answer the question in the OP, of course you can dislike it. Why don't you like it?

[LAS14]

23. I'm not sure. That's why I posted. nt

[yardwork]

30. The number of people who choose to take this course at a small private university is tiny.

Please try not to get drawn into the right-wing framing. If Princeton offers the course, it must have passed their academic muster. Princeton is rather selective, after all.

[Johnny2X2X]

31. It's an art class taught at an elite private school

Not sure why anyone would care what obscure classes are taught at Princeton.

[MineralMan]

32. Yes. That's the funny part. It's an art class,

studying the art that is somehow connected to the BDSM community and specifically black people in that community. Very esoteric as a subject, and not really of interest to very many Princeton U students, I imagine. It only will accept 12 students. I wonder how many students will actually enroll in that class, really.

As you say, why would anyone care that such a class is available at that school? I can't imagine...

[live love laugh]

11. What is this OP about? Nobody clicks on blind links.

Or at least I and many others don’t.

[LAS14]

13. Good point. See my edit to the OP. nt

[live love laugh]

18. Thanks 😊

[MineralMan]

14. I think it's about a college course that offends the OP by existing.

However, the OP hasn't really explained why he posted about it.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

15. To answer your question,

How do you react to Princeton's new course offering?

I think that $74,190, which is tuition, room, and board for the 2021-22 academic year at Princeton, doesn't go as far as it used to. {I added the Oxford comma.}

Full disclosure: I did not go to Princeton.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

22. Seems like an interesting course that explores how a marginalized group deals with a topic

compared to non-marginalized groups. I'm guessing the marginalized group in question is relevant to the department offering the course.

I'm sure people won't like this course, but I'm also sure Princeton doesn't give a fuck about what those people think nor does the prof that created the class.

Class limit is 12 people, so I'm sure the 12 that take it have a solid reason to do so. It's college. I be there are good discussions in that class (though, as a cis hetero white male, I'm not the one they want there discussing it).

[LAS14]

24. Thanks. This is helpful. nt

[mahatmakanejeeves]

26. Nit to pick. The course instructor is not a professor. She is a lecturer.

Profile in The New York Times:

Tiona Nekkia McClodden Is Not Running Away
An artist’s journey to establish her position in the world took her to the shooting range and produced a bold, original show.

By Siddhartha Mitter
Aug. 4, 2022

{snip}

[MineralMan]

25. To your second edit:

The name of the course is clear from your initial link. So, we knew what the course was immediately. I did go to that link, and immediately noticed that it was from a conservative perspective.

We know that there is a BDSM community out there. Most of us know that it includes members of the LGBTQ community and black people. Most of us have no insights into that community, nor do most people in general. It is apparently of enough interest, though, that there is a course at Princeton regarding it.

I'm not seeing where the objection you seem to have comes from, though. Universities study all sorts of things, and offer courses in a wide range of topics. So, it's no surprise that Princeton might offer a course in that subject. Looking at the list of references, it appears that it includes some studies about issues within the BDSM community. I know nothing about that, really. It might be an interesting course for some people to take.

[inthewind21]

33. What do I think

I think it's really none of my business. Definitely not WTF worthy. Now, if they were offering a course on "how to get away with murder." That one I might raise an eyebrow. Maybe.

[SYFROYH]

39. Humanities course educate on two levels

1. The content. This content is novel and snall slice of humanity not typically discussed in mainstream discourse.

2. The analysis. The analysis of the content is transferable to any topic.