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Sogo

(4,992 posts)
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 04:09 PM Nov 2022

House bill that should get immediate vote:

A group of Dem Representatives introduced a bill to increase the size of the Supreme Court.

Get that passed and with us holding only the Senate next term, fill the additional four seats with the Dem Senate, simple majority....


IMHO.

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House bill that should get immediate vote: (Original Post) Sogo Nov 2022 OP
How can it pass the Senate? Polybius Nov 2022 #1
I'm not sure there's even a majority of Democrats who support that. brooklynite Nov 2022 #2
Has anyone asked Biden lately? Sogo Nov 2022 #3
How do you break the filibuster? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #5
He just said right after Dobbs that he opposes SC expansion Polybius Nov 2022 #6
If a bill came to his desk Elessar Zappa Nov 2022 #7
But how could it come to his desk? Polybius Nov 2022 #9
Not to mention SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #10
I'm not saying we have the necessary support. Elessar Zappa Nov 2022 #15
Filibuster would stop this SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #4
The bill has only two co-sponsors in the Senate. onenote Nov 2022 #13
Yep SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #16
Do it, just do it republianmushroom Nov 2022 #8
It's not going to get an "immediate" vote. It may not even get a hearing. onenote Nov 2022 #11
Bills don't carry over past the inauguration of a new congress MichMan Nov 2022 #12
Exactly n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #14
Want to know why we haven't seen any momentum on bills like this? We don't have the votes Amishman Nov 2022 #17

brooklynite

(94,725 posts)
2. I'm not sure there's even a majority of Democrats who support that.
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 04:12 PM
Nov 2022

President Biden certainly doesn't.

Polybius

(15,475 posts)
6. He just said right after Dobbs that he opposes SC expansion
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 04:16 PM
Nov 2022

But I do think that you're right, if it got to his desk he'd sign it. The problem is how can it get there. Any ideas?

Polybius

(15,475 posts)
9. But how could it come to his desk?
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 04:24 PM
Nov 2022

Even if we eliminated the filibuster today, do we have 50 Senators to support SC expansion? I doubt Manchin would get on board, and surely no Republican will.

Elessar Zappa

(14,047 posts)
15. I'm not saying we have the necessary support.
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 04:28 PM
Nov 2022

I’m just saying that if we did, I believe Biden would be on board.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
4. Filibuster would stop this
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 04:15 PM
Nov 2022

I think it's more than just Manchin & Sinema that are against this...the President certainly hasn't pushed for it.

onenote

(42,759 posts)
13. The bill has only two co-sponsors in the Senate.
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 04:28 PM
Nov 2022

And an identical bill in the House has only 59 (out of 220) Democrats as co-sponsors. Both bills were introduced 18 months ago and neither has received a hearing.

That should tell you something about the prospects for these bills getting "an immediate vote" during the lame duck session. And as been pointed out, when the 117th Congress adjourns in January, these bills die.

onenote

(42,759 posts)
11. It's not going to get an "immediate" vote. It may not even get a hearing.
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 04:26 PM
Nov 2022

Two identical bills -- one in the House and one in the Senate --were introduced in April 2021 to increase the size of the Court by four justices. In eighteen months time, the Senate bill has attracted exactly one co-sponsor. The House bill has 59 (out of 220 Democrats) as co-sponsors. Neither has had a hearing since being introduced.

Don't hold your breath to see any action at all on either of these bills during the upcoming "lame duck" session. And as has been noted, when Congress adjourns, these bills will die.

MichMan

(11,971 posts)
12. Bills don't carry over past the inauguration of a new congress
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 04:27 PM
Nov 2022

The House can't pass it now and have the new Senate pass it later.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
17. Want to know why we haven't seen any momentum on bills like this? We don't have the votes
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 05:09 PM
Nov 2022

Holding a chamber with a tiny margin does not equal the ability to pass anything we want.

Given our difficulty getting votes for something a Build Back Better, I'm rather certain something controversial like this is well short of the needed support.

Small, incremental changes are what are possible with such small margins. If we do end up holding onto the House, we all really need to remember this.

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