15,000 Iranians slated for execution and virgin girls raped for execution

[packman]

Acting on the impositions of the Iranian parliamentarians to impose stricter punishments on the protesters and to teach them an “important lesson”, the Iranian Parliament approved the death penalty for approximately 15,000 people with 227 votes out of a total of 290 members.


The lawmakers further added that punishment would "prove to all that life, property, security and honor of our dear people is a red line for this [Islamic] establishment and that it would show no leniency to anybody in this regard."

What's shocking and utterly disdainful is that among the arrested are hundreds of children - young girls fighting for their futures. Iran is one of the world's last countries to execute "juvenile offenders," with nine the age of criminal responsibility for girls, compared to 15 for boys.

But under Iranian law, you can't execute a minor if they're a virgin.

As per the reports by the BBC and Guardian, that roadblock has been solved in the past by marrying the girls off to prison guards to be raped the night before their murders - a practice that's been documented over the decades by journalists, families, activists and even a former leader.

https://thenationalbulletin.in/iran-issues-mass-execution-for-over-15000-protestors-amid-anti-hijab-protests-virgin-women-apparently-raped-before-execution-reports-say-



What a fucked up country ---

[nycbos]

1. Ban Iran from the World Cup.

[mountain grammy]

32. Ban them from everything.

[Hiawatha Pete]

44. +1000 n/t

[Just A Box Of Rain]

69. This is a de-bunked conspiracy theory.

[femmedem]

2. Edited to thank the DUers who fact checked this and posted that it wasn't accurate. n/t

Last edited Tue Nov 15, 2022, 02:06 AM - Edit history (1)

[chowder66]

13. I feel the same. It's making me sick to my stomach.

[femmedem]

56. Fortunately it doesn't appear to be accurate, although the truth is also bad.

Other DUers posted this: https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/world-verify/iran-15000-protesters-not-sentenced-to-death-fact-check/536-9b21be3b-62aa-4793-91c7-799872cbdef7

and this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/11/14/iran-death-sentence-protests-mahsa-amini/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjI0Njc2MDIzIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY2ODQ4Njk4MiwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY2OTY5NjU4MiwiaWF0IjoxNjY4NDg2OTgyLCJqdGkiOiI5NzU5ODQzMy01N2VlLTRlZDUtODE4ZC0xZWYzODY3ODkwOGUiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vd29ybGQvMjAyMi8xMS8xNC9pcmFuLWRlYXRoLXNlbnRlbmNlLXByb3Rlc3RzLW1haHNhLWFtaW5pLyJ9.C2X64MT0UJuN9VutxaZr3-Nnl5625NSRHspUPb9lZT4

[chowder66]

71. Wow. I'm so glad you pointed this out. I got had and I'm pretty careful about that.

[highplainsdem]

3. Horrifying.

[treestar]

4. what a horrible thing

to do to anyone! Are they insane? Why would they vote for that? And notice that the criminal responsibility is younger for girls - what is that about in a country that certain women are inferior?

[electric_blue68]

23. I saw that age difference. Wtf!

[yankee87]

5. Qpublican Christofascist dream

This is what a Mike Pence and other christofascists want for the USA. My heart goes out to the Iranian people. Another reason to blockade the country after selling weapons to Russia

[BlackSkimmer]

65. This is not happening in the US, nor is anyone calling for that. Even Pence.

Fascinating that you take something happening under another regime, a religious regime (not Christian) and somehow make it the fault of Christianity.

Why not blame THEIR regime and THEIR religious leaders? Hmm?

[yankee87]

73. Christo-fascism

Not sure how you get an attack on Christianity from my post. It's about Christo-fascists. Also, the Christo-fascists in this country have called for killing our LGBTQI citizens. So no, I called out their religious leaders, but they are the same bent as the christo-fascists here. I will never stop calling them out till my dying breath.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/03/pastor-calls-death-lgbtq-people-preaches-hate-speech-children/
https://epgn.com/2022/06/15/pastors-in-idaho-and-texas-call-for-execution-of-lgbtq-people/

[Mister Ed]

6. Good god. Women, will you please take over the world, everywhere?

I'm done. As of this moment, I never want to live in a male-dominated society.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

7. Makes me wish I believed in hell.

[icymist]

8. Sickening and disgusting! Why isn't this leading in MSM?

Hey US media! Wake the fuck up!

[certainot]

28. are we sure this isn't bullshit?

[Blue_playwright]

31. I've seen several reports internationally so far...

[Farmer-Rick]

46. Yeah, I've seen stories about this rape and execution ploy

To get around religious laws, (Do you really think your god is that stupid to be so easily fooled?) about murdering virgin girls in places like the Guardian and MSNBC. But they date back to the 2013 to 2018 or so. Supposedly they send the now dead girl's parents a marriage certificate and a box of chocolates or sweets.

I can't get over that they hold little 9 year old girls criminally responsible but boys not until they are 15. That means if a 9 year old girl is raped she can be executed for immoral behavior......not so much the rapist though. It's always the women in Iran who pay the price.

Ancient desert goat herders were big on female slave labor. It was the basis of polygamy and men's wealth.

[certainot]

58. koran says: "man can only have sex with his wife and that which his wife possesses", which

'scholars' have debates about about. "right hand possesses" is interpreted to mean slaves, captives, concubines. so females are reduced to possessions and objects. that's what the taliban and other fundamentalists go by.

but what happens to the guys who can't afford a wife or slave, or aren't fighters that would capture such a sex object? it can't fit in a modern civilized world.

the real meaning of what the "right hand possesses" exposes the secret of authoritarian power. you should be celibate (riiiiiiight), but if you dooooo cheat, it has to be with the right hand, because that's sex on the wrong brain - how authoritarians are made - by connecting impatient satisfaction-demanding reproductive impulses with brain functions that need to be patient and objective. that creates greed, objectification, materialism, capitalism, - but worse, an irrational need for certainty that doesn't exist. that turns into fear, certitude, absolutism, fundamentalism, extremism, god-making, etc.

the koran puts the secret of authoritarian power and the fuel for centuries of war and destruction right there in black and white. the other religions just repress sex, and women/girls and reproductive rights and make sure the word "masturbation" is taboo.

that's what fuels the religious misogyny in iran. the alternative is democratic forms of organization that our incel taliban trumpers can't stand.

[Farmer-Rick]

66. Very interesting analysis

But just so sad that religion has become the most horrible of abusers.

[treestar]

67. food for thought

since things like this are used to get people angry and willing to go to war. The Belgium babies story was repeated for the Kuwait war.

[certainot]

70. the fake incubator babies was all over RW radio. if it's a GOP move to get us unto an attack on iran

which they have wanted to do and may push in the new congress, it will be blasting out of 1500 radio stations for as long as it takes.

i haven't been listening lately. there are some death sentences and it might be the tip of the iceberg but it's the kind of thing republicans would use rw radio to blow up. if trump was in and they had both houses we'd have to get into the streets to stop them. maybe trump will mention it tonight. it doesn't matter how much they lie and exaggerate they just keep repeating until it's baked into the base as truth.

i hadn't thought of that, but that could happen for months and dem leadership would never know. they'd hear about it eventually but scratch it off as absurd as they usually do. that's why dems and left must start using AI to digitize RW radio.

[iemanja]

9. Oh my God

How horrific.

[Quixote1818]

11. The US and other countries need to do something. Horrifying! nt

[Joinfortmill]

12. Increase the sanctions as much as possible.

This is an unspeakable act of evil perpetrated by a regime controlled by men so inadequate they gain a sense of power from raping children before murdering them.

[Thomas Hurt]

14. This shit arouses the christofascists in this country. They long for a christian theocracy like this

[ms liberty]

15. Jeez. This is horrifying, and totally fucked up.

I can't apologize for the f word. The subject demands it, and more...

[iluvtennis]

45. + 1. nt

[Scrivener7]

16. They knew this was coming. THIS is how brave their protests were.

Unimaginable courage.

[Deuxcents]

17. 15,000 executions? I'm so sick I cannot even think straight

[Archae]

18. The actual numbers may be exxagerated...

Possibly.

[Farmer-Rick]

47. I looked for hard numbers

But could only find the one story quoted here on the number of likely executions.

It is horrifying to think a nation could do this to women who just wanted to be unencumbered by black robes. They are monsters.

[roamer65]

19. This is why extinction of human race may not be such a bad thing after all.

..sort of…

Utterly sickening.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

20. This is called propaganda.

Parliament did indeed ask judges to impose the death penalty on people convicted of rioting. It's not legally binding. The state will execute people. It won't be 15,000 of them.

[electric_blue68]

26. Uh, propaganda by whom?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

59. People who want readers to have a visceral feeling about Iran.

[Kali]

30. again

thank you

[Farmer-Rick]

52. Iran has a history of mass executions

"In 1988, Iranian authorities, acting on the orders of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini, summarily and extrajudicially executed thousands of political prisoners across the country. The number of executions is not definitively known, but according to estimates from former Iranian officials and lists compiled by human rights and opposition groups, Iranian authorities executed between 2,800 and 5,000 prisoners in at least 32 cities in the country." https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/08/irans-1988-mass-executions

"The Iranian authorities have embarked on an execution spree, killing at least 251 people between 1 January and 30 June 2022, according to research by the Abdorrahman Boroumand Centre for Human Rights in Iran and Amnesty International. The organizations warned that if executions continue at this horrifying pace, they will soon surpass the total of 314 executions recorded for the whole of 2021." https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/07/iran-horrific-wave-of-executions-must-be-stopped/

"Iran carried out at least 977 executions in 2015, at least 567 executions in 2016, and at least 507 executions in 2017."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Iran

[WhiskeyGrinder]

60. They do indeed, and the threat of the sentence will do what it's meant to do, which is

put a scare into protestors.

[Alhena]

55. Oh wow, so their nation's government only ASKED for 15,000 protestors to be murdered?

Well, that's perfectly fine then!

[WhiskeyGrinder]

61. The regime is indeed terrible. There's no reason to get people to think that 15,000 people are in

custody and about to be executed when the reality is already bad. That's called propaganda.

[vercetti2021]

21. The US needs to step in

Supply these people guns.

[electric_blue68]

22. Weeping 😭 for these Brave Young Women!

And for the depravity of this current Iranian Gov't.

[Deuxcents]

24. Raping the very young girls before executions..how barbaric. It makes me literally sick

[electric_blue68]

27. Deep breaths... (very understandable to feel like that)

[crosinski]

25. 15,000 protesters!

If only the sane world could intervene.

[SunSeeker]

29. Now THAT is a shithole country.

That is the sickest shit I've read in a long time. Why isn't the international community up in arms and doing everything to stop this?

[Kali]

33. this reads like bullshit to demonize Iranians

yes the regime is repressive and brutal, that is why it is being protested. no they are not going to execute 15,000 people.

https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/world-verify/iran-15000-protesters-not-sentenced-to-death-fact-check/536-9b21be3b-62aa-4793-91c7-799872cbdef7

[Deuxcents]

34. Just one person is too many for wanting a better life.

North Korea, Iran, n many other cruel dictators think this is how to rule the masses. We can’t save them but the world should shun them. The dictators live very well while the people don’t have enough to eat. Can’t an embargo be in effect for luxury items that only go to the rulers? I may be grasping at ideas here, I admit, but isn’t there anything than can be done?

[Warpy]

37. Iran is not the only place it occurs

Totalitarian majority Ismalic states all do this. The prohibition in Islam of executing minor girls is absolute. So they make sure they are forcibly "married" and raped before they kill them. It is a longstanding practice.

So what was supposed to protect girl children has just increased the viciousness of men, especially dictators, toward them.

Families losing their daughters in this horrific way are not going to be kindly disposed to supporting the Islamic revolution.

Those Mullahs have become far worse than the Shah. Eventually, that is going to cost them.

[DashOneBravo]

53. Don't forget ISIS treatment

Of gay men and Christians

“ISIS has released images that appear to show gay men being hurled off buildings and then stoned to death, part of the militants' self-professed mission to crack down on "sexual deviance."

The horrific execution tactic is the latest in a string of brutal punishment methods applied by ISIS under its strict interpretation of Islamic — or shariah — law, from crucifying Christians to stoning alleged adulterers to flogging young men for drinking.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna305171

[Warpy]

57. Or Christianity's treatment of Jews, women, gay men...

The common thread in all of this is a sexual loose screw resulting in extreme sadism justified by a cruel and rigid interpretation of holy books.

The Jews aren't off the hook, not if you read the OT and realize death by stoning was a favorite of theirs, also.

[electric_blue68]

64. And certain (if not all) Christian Dominists Groups looove stoning certain...

groups of people to death.

(beyond disgusting, along w the ones who want to bring back chattel slavery gah! )

[crosinski]

41. Thank you for this.

Now I can sleep tonight!

[electric_blue68]

49. I'd demonize a gov't that would allow this to happen to these young women protestors...

but not the Iranian people in general.

And the worst of the gov't's hard line supporters I'd condemn also.

Sane as I condemn christo-fascists here in The States.

[burrowowl]

51. Thanks for link!

[Farmer-Rick]

54. They have had mass executions of thousands before.

But perhaps they will only execute 500 to 800. Is that any better?

Religion combined with state control is the root cause of this brutality. Some people fear that when combining religion and government in a theocracy that religion corrupts government. And some fear that government corrupts religion.They are both right.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

62. Propaganda works.

[TygrBright]

35. I don't think this is going to accomplish what they want it to accomplish. n/t

[lpbk2713]

36. I don't know much about religion.

But is all of Islam this barbaric?

To do what they do in the name of religion is unfathomable.

[electric_blue68]

50. No, it's not.

[BigmanPigman]

38. Religion and politics/government should never exist together.

Theocracies are the end of a civilizations.

[Texasgal]

39. This literally makes my

stomach ill... How absolutely barbaric!

[HardPort]

40. This is what MAGA fascists want to do in Florida.

[Ilsa]

42. I wish someone would bomb the crap out the barbarians.

The children are going to die anyway. I wish someone would drop a nasty one on their parliament.

[mn9driver]

43. This story is being reported differently in the Washington Post

Here is a no-paywall link to their reporting on this:

https://wapo.st/3g6l4Gd

There is no question Iran has a horrific human rights record and the arrested protestors and journalists are being treated horribly and will not receive anything like a fair trial.

The Iranian government is full of evil people and the protestors are incredibly brave and could, in some cases, end up facing a death sentence for political purposes. There is nothing good to say about it.

But Iran is not going to execute 15000 people. That is agitprop.

[OMGWTF]

48. Woman is the n****r of the world -- John Lennon

[zanana1]

63. Religion

Can't live with it.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

68. This is yet another example of a de-bunked conspiracy theory running wild on DU.

Check your sources people!!!

There is much wrong with the Islamic Republic of Iran, but having reactionary responses to click-bait bullshit is not a good look.

[StormKing]

72. I can't honestly respond to this

I grew up in a violent environment.

My mind only goes one place.

Let those men reap what they sow and choke on the grains.

[sl8]

74. Snopes: Are 15,000 Iranian Protesters Going To Be 'Mass Executed'?

Are 15,000 Iranian Protesters Going To Be 'Mass Executed'?

The same rumors allege women detainees will be raped before execution to prevent them from going to heaven.

By Nur Ibrahim
Published November 15, 2022


Editor's note: This post will discuss sexual abuse, rape, torture, and forced marriages.

As human rights protests continued to engulf Iran, the regime also continued to crack down, imprisoning thousands of people connected to the demonstrations. The protests were triggered in September 2022 by the death of Mahsa Amini (who was also known as Jina), a young woman who died after being detained by Iran's morality police for "improper hijab." In November 2022, the first known death sentence was issued to a person for taking part in the protests.

Recent viral posts on social media claim that 15,000 people will be "mass executed" by the regime to "send a message." Some posts also quote an article that stated, "Female prisoners who are virgins must be raped before execution, to prevent them from going to heaven."

Are 15,000 Protesters in Danger of Mass Execution?

Let's start with the claim that has been bolstered by the likes of Newsweek, Justin Trudeau, and others: that 15,000 protesters have been arrested and will be "mass executed." That claim has been debunked as false by a number of journalists and experts, including reporter Shayan Sardarizadeh of the BBC:

In early November, the United Nations estimated the number of detainees in Iran arrested over six weeks as being around 14,000. That number has likely grown, and, according to a regularly updated document compiled by the Human Rights Activists in Iran network, currently stands at 15,820.


[...]

[David__77]

75. Misinformation like this, in this era, defeats its own purpose.

At least to some extent.

The US isn’t going to war against Iran. Maybe if DeSantis were president.