What? Say what? A leak from DoJ?

[Grasswire2]

This "leak" of DoJ thought process regarding Trump's motive for criminal activity is highly suspicious. After "no leaks, no leaks, no leaks, no leaks" suddenly there's a leak regarding the state of mind of investigators/prosecutors that could point to no crime, no prosecution? We aren't stupid out here in the cheap seats.

The leak: It was for his EGO only that he stole and kept the top secret materials! Not for any business purpose! (Say, selling it off for $2B that's routed through Javanka)

That's the leak from DoJ yesterday. Setting us up for no prosecution.

[brush]

1. Oh please. This better be a fake leak.

[herding cats]

2. I believe that "leak" came from the FBI.

Not the DOJ.

Federal agents and prosecutors have come to believe former president Donald Trump’s motive for allegedly taking and keeping classified documents was largely his ego and a desire to hold on to the materials as trophies or mementos, according to people familiar with the matter.

[triron]

5. I call bullshit.

[herding cats]

9. I'm assuming you mean on the FBI's reporting in the "leak"?

If so, I agree. They're on record as being Trump friendly and I don't trust their framing of this situation.

[triron]

19. Either that or the report is.

[sop]

3. Softening the blow?

[Ocelot II]

4. It's not a leak; it's speculation, and anyhow motive is irrelevant

with respect to the taking and keeping of classified or other government documents. The taking and keeping is itself the crime, no matter what the reason for doing so might have been.

[Effete Snob]

15. There's not a lot of support for that position here

It was okay when it was Chelsea Manning or Reality Winner.

So the reason matters quite a lot.

[Ocelot II]

22. The reason does not matter in charging the crime. Taking and keeping is the entire crime.

Motive could be relevant wrt sentencing but not in charging.

[PRETZEL]

6. I know a lot of us here are very skeptical of Devlin Bartlett

and his sourcing. I'm one of them.

I don't know if it's FBI agents sympathetic to Trump, or from someone within Trump's circle, but he always seems to find a way to get things out that are usually favorable to Trump in some way.

He really has become Trump's Judith Miller.

[triron]

21. I am one of those.

[former9thward]

7. The DOJ leaks when it wants to.

It has under Garland and every other DOJ.

[Walleye]

10. Sounds like it's straight from Dinesh D'Souza

[agingdem]

25. not a leak

Trump's people putting crap out there, trying to control the narrative.. it's not espionage, it's kleptomania...

if anyone of us walked out of the White House with a napkin, we'd be arrested, fined, and in jail..just saying

[Walleye]

26. Kash Patel just testified to grand jury, I think

Sounds like him

[Midnight Writer]

11. Does it matter if the thief stole your watch because he liked it or so he could sell it?

[Alexander Of Assyria]

16. Precisely Midnight Rider! My client is innocent cause his ego made him do it! is not a

defence anyone has ever heard of, or any a prosecutor takes into consideration.

Whole concept made me laugh!

[Fullduplexxx]

12. Ego or financial doesn't matter he's not allowed to take them

[Ocelot II]

13. The taking and keeping is *itself* the crime, no matter the motive!

The whole discussion is bullshit. It doesn't matter what TFG intended to do with the documents. He took and kept them and that's the crime.

[Beastly Boy]

14. Too early to panic.

If anything, this "leak" establishes a motive for the crime, nothing else.

In this context, what does "DOJ thought process" mean anyway?

[Bayard]

18. So?

Still illegal, and definitely punishable.

[Beastly Boy]

27. Are you talking about a leak being illegal or Trump's conduct?

I am trying to understand your disagreement with "too early to panic". Are you suggesting that the leak can put an end to the prosecution or the establishment of a motive would put an end to the prosecution?

[Bayard]

28. It doesn't matter how anyone tries to justify his actions

What he did is illegal, and he needs to be prosecuted for it.

I'm not buying any leak theory either.

[Beastly Boy]

30. Agreed

Neither the alleged leak itself, if indeed it occurred, nor any discussion of its content on any level, impedes or prevents DOJ from investigating Trump's crimes or indicting him.

[gab13by13]

17. Not relevant any how.

[Kota]

20. So, if I rob a bank and just want to keep the money in a vault for myself, it's not a crime.

If you kill someone but just wanted the head as a trophy, it's not a crime. He stole classified documents he knew he shouldn't have. Thats a crime. Selling them would be a second crime.

[Chainfire]

23. The question is is, "Do the known facts support the proposition?"

No indictment so far...

In the Spring we were holding out hope by the 4th of July. In July we were holding our breaths before election season. In the Fall, we were sure that the ball would drop immediately following the election. What is our next magic date going to be? Christmas, New Years?

[SoCalDavidS]

24. He's NEVER Going To Be Indicted

Reality.

[lees1975]

29. I'm starting to think that way, too.

Rich people rarely face consequences. This is looking more like a political game. Disappointing because if they don't induct him, Democrats chances of winning in 2024 are dead.