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orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 06:51 PM Nov 2022

What is Article 5 of the NATO treaty?


Russian reportedly struck Poland, a NATO member, on Tuesday, setting off a frenzy over the Western alliance’s mutual defense mechanism known as Article 5.

Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty, NATO’s founding document, says that any attack on a NATO member in Europe or North America “shall be considered an attack against them all.”


Once a member invokes the principle of collective self-defense under the treaty, NATO can come to its defense with “such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.”

But that doesn’t mean any attack on a NATO member automatically triggers a state of war.

“It’s not like a trigger mechanism. It doesn’t mean that tomorrow every single country in NATO responds with a full military invasion of Russia,” Joel Rubin, a former deputy assistant secretary of State, said.

The diplomatic nature of an Article 5 invocation is by design. It allows the alliance the necessary pause and diplomatic toolkit to respond to an aggression on its own terms.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/3736968-what-is-article-5-of-the-nato-treaty/







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What is Article 5 of the NATO treaty? (Original Post) orangecrush Nov 2022 OP
it allows no nothings at msnbc to launch a nuclear war for ratings purposes? nt msongs Nov 2022 #1
With all respect orangecrush Nov 2022 #5
... ruet Nov 2022 #7
... orangecrush Nov 2022 #10
I think they mean know-nothings iemanja Nov 2022 #22
I'm concerned Tickle Nov 2022 #2
I don't believe it was an accident orangecrush Nov 2022 #6
agreed, was also quite close to a major power line Amishman Nov 2022 #12
Lets give Poland the lead on this eh? pwb Nov 2022 #3
The article emphasizes orangecrush Nov 2022 #4
It is not yet clear what the truth of the situation is with this missile. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #8
They are keeping cool heads orangecrush Nov 2022 #13
I'm as anti-Putin as they come, but the idea that Russia would deliberately target a field in Poland Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #14
That we shall. orangecrush Nov 2022 #16
Ukraine Weapons Tracker is one of many "open source intelligence" Twitter feeds and websites, Emrys Nov 2022 #15
Quite correct. Nothing is conclusive here. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #17
Sorry, I've swallowed orangecrush Nov 2022 #18
That's cruel. Where are the defensive lasers? Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #19
ROTF orangecrush Nov 2022 #20
LOL Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #21
... orangecrush Nov 2022 #23
BTW you were right orangecrush Nov 2022 #24
Getting that news from you, just now, with my 6:23 coffee here in LA, but Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #25
Yup orangecrush Nov 2022 #26
They've scheduled an Article 4 meeting for Wednesday morning Donkees Nov 2022 #9
Thank you orangecrush Nov 2022 #11

Tickle

(2,540 posts)
2. I'm concerned
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:07 PM
Nov 2022

I don't know the difference between article 4 and article 5 I just can't see anything positive coming out of this this attack or accident.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
8. It is not yet clear what the truth of the situation is with this missile.
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:21 PM
Nov 2022

Ukraine Weapons Tracker--an outstanding resource throughout this conflict--has some evidence to suggest that the missile may have come from a Ukrainian-based defensive S-300 surface-to-air missile.

We need to keep our heads cool.

orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
13. They are keeping cool heads
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:26 PM
Nov 2022


Article 5 gives room for diplomacy.


We don't have all the facts

But I doubt this was an accident.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
14. I'm as anti-Putin as they come, but the idea that Russia would deliberately target a field in Poland
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:31 PM
Nov 2022

makes no strategic sense to me.

An errant missile I could believe. Same with a damaged or deflected missile. Or a defensive missile that crashed to earth over the border.

A deliberate strike on a target of no strategic value--but one with huge risks for Putin--doesn't calculate as a high probability to me.

We will see.

Emrys

(7,256 posts)
15. Ukraine Weapons Tracker is one of many "open source intelligence" Twitter feeds and websites,
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:32 PM
Nov 2022

quite a number are reputable, all are capable of making mistakes, and the best own up whenever they do.

Ukraine Weapons Tracker felt it had identified missile wreckage from one photo which might or might not suggest it was launched by Ukraine. It did follow up that tweet by pointing out there might be other wreckage from the scene and it was too early to say what else might have struck the site.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
17. Quite correct. Nothing is conclusive here.
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 07:40 PM
Nov 2022

It is incumbent to find out the truth before we release the dogs of war.

Fortunately we are in good hands with Joe Biden as commander-in-chief.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,413 posts)
19. That's cruel. Where are the defensive lasers?
Tue Nov 15, 2022, 11:20 PM
Nov 2022

Article 5 of NATO states that the next person who posts an OP about traitortrump's rant shall be force-fed sardines and cotton candy until there shall be at least one projectile emission from each end of said person.

Or so I've been told.

orangecrush

(19,616 posts)
24. BTW you were right
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:52 AM
Nov 2022


They are now saying it was likely accidental, and may have been caused by Ukrainian air defenses deflecting the missile.
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