trump will hand the democrats a generation in the Oval Office

[reymega life]

look at all his candidate disciples they all lost this will the the winning strategy for democrats in the general election and presidency.

[hedda_foil]

1. That's exactly what's needed

[lees1975]

2. Not if he's not indicted and convicted.

Lots of Democrats will stay home if that happens.

[wryter2000]

3. He will definitely give Joe Biden another four years

And give us the House back. Plus, he may destroy DeSantis the way he destroyed Chris Christie, Scott Walker, and others. As annoying as he is, he's giving us a great opportunity.

[Marius25]

5. Sounds like the 2016 claims that Hillary will definitely win

People here are underestimating him yet again.

[regnaD kciN]

7. Yep...

I remember when he took the lead in the Republican primaries, there were some here speculating that we’d see two terms for Hillary, followed by two terms for Michelle, then two terms for Chelsea, then two each for Malia and Sasha.

We underestimate the appeal of a totalitarian celebrity at our peril.

[In It to Win It]

10. To the credit of voters, 81 million people found out how dangerous and chaotic he was

People now know how exhausting of an administration he ran firsthand, they didn't know that in 2016. Voters now have new information that they did not have in 2016.

I will agree that he shouldn't be underestimated though. I mean that in a sense that I wouldn't want the people that truly dislike Trump to get complacent. Many people felt pretty certain that Hillary Clinton was going to win and didn't feel the need or urgency to turnout. They may feel that about Joe Biden. That's the part we need to combt. People know that Trump is unfit for office, but people also need to remember not to get complacent.

[PortTack]

17. Exactly..this isn't '16. Voters overwhelmingly said I'm sick of the gqp BS in the midterms

It won’t fall on deaf ears in’24

[NYC Liberal]

13. That was before his 4 years in office.

In 2016 he was still a novelty. After he actually got into office, people do not want a repeat.

Don’t underestimate him, but 2024 won’t be 2016.

[wryter2000]

20. Since then

He lost both houses of congress and an election as an incumbent. Now he's proved himself an utter whining loser whose endorsements fail. Even his supporters tried to get out of his speech last night. Plus, he has killed off about a million of his supporters. He's even awakened young voters This is not 2016.

Oh and...Murdoch has said he'll support the Democrat over Trump. No support from Fox news.

[Marius25]

21. I don't trust Murdoch. They were still covering at least part of his speech last night

and of course you now have people like Lindsey Graham falling back in line and supporting him.

Most Republicans will vote for him again.

[wryter2000]

22. The Republican voter base has shrunk

COVID has killed quite a few. Others have become independent. Plus, there are lots of republicans against Trump. If his voters could get him elected, they would have done so in 2020.

[BannonsLiver]

24. And you apparently think it's still 2016 and the circumstances are exactly the same

Which is about as ludicrous as the OPs point.

[Marius25]

25. I don't think circumstances are the same.

But I'm also not naive enough to think Trump can't "win" again. Especially once Moore v. Harper is ruled on.

[iemanja]

4. People thought that in 2016

I rather have a Republican nominee who isn't off the deep end, if they can find one.

[reymega life]

6. gen z will make sure hes not in look at the voter turnout this year

[Bayard]

8. Sets up an interesting and pathetic dynamic

Although the constant barrage of TFG and DeSantis slugging it out will dominate every news cycle now. I don't want to hear it.

They will definitely split the party. And who else will jump into the fray? Pence? Who will moderates get behind?

I really hope Americans see Dems just going about the Nation's business, heads down, getting their jobs done. Getting good work done for the country.

I doubt TFG will ever make it to a debate stage, but President Biden will wallop either one of those guys.

[rubbersole]

9. The "trump dynamic" is over.

Everyone is sick of this phony pos. Nothing like 2016. But before he's gone forever, please take out the remaining repubs for the next 30 years. American youth will thank you and join us pissing on your grave.

[reymega life]

12. gen z ISNT GONNA PUT UP WITH FASCISTS look at the mid terms this year

[doc03]

11. The American people have a very short memory, a Republican could

even win in 2024. After every election the party that loses is always in disarray or in a civil war
according to the MSM. I have heard the obituaries for both parties over the years.

[PortTack]

18. Women have the memory of elephants. Voters didn't forget this midterm with numbers approaching

A presidential year. Ppl are now terrified of what the gqp will do next, that fear will still be present in ‘24 and will drive huge voter turnout for the Dems, regardless of the nominee

[localroger]

14. Which we will need to reverse all the shit that's been done since 1980 /nt

[Thunderbeast]

15. Hubris has a price

In 2008, Obama was elected with 60 Senators. Pundits on the networks spoke confidently of an un-stoppable and
permanent Democratic government.

Well, THAT didn't last long!

[sarisataka]

16. Uh huh

[herding cats]

19. I doubt that, but I do feel his time is waning.

I've seen several people interviewed who supported him in 2016 who've changed horses to DeSantis now. A few even support Biden. Most of their reasons made my eyes cross, but people lie and it's really hard to admit some of the more basic reasons they voted for him in the first place.

[Buckeyeblue]

26. A generation is a long time...

But I don't think he'll get much of a challenge. I don't think DeSantis will want to take on an encumbant president. Odds are you aren't going to beat them. This is why strong Republicans don't challenge. Dole challenged Clinton. There was no way Dole was ever going to be elected president. And Romney challenged Obama. Again, Romney was never going to be elected president, because of his religion.

I think Trump is the exception, because he lost the popular vote by such a large margin in 2016.

Perot hurt Bush. And Iran hurt Carter.

Before that you have to go back a long time to find a defeated encumbant.

[Hekate]

27. Don't count your chickens before they are hatched