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Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:28 AM Nov 2022

Omigod. What is MSNBC doing?

They do not renew Tiffany Cross's contract, and then give Chris Matthews air time on Morning Joe.

I heard Matthew's spittle comments this morning about Trump's run for presidency, and disagreed with him when he said it was going to be bad for Democrats. I disagree because I think it's going to be worse for Republicans. And then he did the bothsiderism and included Joe Biden when he called him egotistical, and as an afterthought added that both men are egotistical. Then he said Biden wouldn't listen to anyone about running for president, except Jill Biden, thus Joe Biden was going to run again.

As much as Chris Matthews tried to cushion the negatives he said about Biden by following up with positive qualities, I couldn't help thinking that Chris Matthews was reciting from a playbook that is old and no longer acceptable.

Matthew had his hey-day when he gave George W. Bush the sycophant lash-batting treatment. Why is he now allowed to use his bad judgement to affect the next presidency?

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Omigod. What is MSNBC doing? (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Nov 2022 OP
Made me nuts too. FalloutShelter Nov 2022 #1
Joe's making his turn back to the Republican Party once that Trump is gone. dem4decades Nov 2022 #2
When will Trump be gone? gab13by13 Nov 2022 #7
His tongue-bathing of Raffensberger in that interview earlier today bullwinkle428 Nov 2022 #11
Boycott ananda Nov 2022 #3
Matthew's is a tool. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2022 #4
Joe Biden is the antithesis of egotistical. As for Matthews, I was never a fan of his analysis, or JohnSJ Nov 2022 #5
Remember back when Jeopardy gab13by13 Nov 2022 #10
Media is getting the anteroom ready for the return of the king. MiHale Nov 2022 #6
I think that they are getting it ready for wnylib Nov 2022 #23
Could be...didn't go there MiHale Nov 2022 #24
They don't need to explicitly say what they wnylib Nov 2022 #26
Yes and he predicted that it would be Trump versus Biden tavernier Nov 2022 #8
Bothsiderism makes the bosses happy Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2022 #9
FTG. 2naSalit Nov 2022 #12
Trump is bad for everybody. honest.abe Nov 2022 #13
K&R UTUSN Nov 2022 #14
Is he going to have his own time slot? Karma13612 Nov 2022 #15
Matthews gets totally unhinged whenever Trump Raine Nov 2022 #16
Explain how Chris Matthew's opinion affects the next Presidency? brooklynite Nov 2022 #17
Lol. Exactly. BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #19
We need all Democratic pundits on board to support the Democratic candidate. Baitball Blogger Nov 2022 #20
I think too many people here watch too much cable news... brooklynite Nov 2022 #27
These things end up on the internet too TheRealNorth Nov 2022 #28
"No single raindrop thinks it's responsible for the flood." W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #37
Are you at all familiar with the term "death by a thousand paper cuts? Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #38
Exactly. W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #40
I want Cross back. She was fearless, smart, and snappy. Gave info we would not get otherwise. Samrob Nov 2022 #18
Agreed. Baitball Blogger Nov 2022 #21
Simple solution: Turn it off FSogol Nov 2022 #22
Better yet, CUT YOUR CABLE. Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #39
You mean, THIS GUY? House of Roberts Nov 2022 #25
I thought it was gonna be Snotty Walker in 2016 TheRealNorth Nov 2022 #30
Getting you to talk about it. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2022 #29
Because inthewind21 Nov 2022 #31
agree bigtree Nov 2022 #32
Says it all. Baitball Blogger Nov 2022 #34
Imagine caring about any of this. BannonsLiver Nov 2022 #33
Chris Matthews STFU. It's 2022. AntivaxHunters Nov 2022 #35
Let me guess... Mr.Bill Nov 2022 #36
Trump is falling so fast that they need someone like Mathews Lucinda Nov 2022 #41
I would like to think that most of the other hosts.... TheRealNorth Nov 2022 #44
How do you spell LOSER? Xoan Nov 2022 #42
Chris Matthews is a moron. Don't listen to him. Why are you watching Morning Joe anyway? ZonkerHarris Nov 2022 #43

ananda

(28,876 posts)
3. Boycott
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:32 AM
Nov 2022

It's the ratings, dood.

They don't care about you or me or the country,
so hit em where it hurts.

Don't watch.

gab13by13

(21,402 posts)
10. Remember back when Jeopardy
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:39 AM
Nov 2022

had on cable news anchors and journalists?

The dumbest (score wise) was Wolf Blitzer and Tweety was the 2nd dumbest.

I'm still waiting for Tweety and Jonathan Capehart to apologize to Bernie Sanders for claiming he wasn't on a newspaper front page fighting for student housing. Tweety and Capehart both claimed it was someone else in the photo.

MiHale

(9,775 posts)
6. Media is getting the anteroom ready for the return of the king.
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:34 AM
Nov 2022

I wish this was sarcasm. It’s not. It’s a warning.

wnylib

(21,606 posts)
26. They don't need to explicitly say what they
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:31 AM
Nov 2022

are doing to be effective at doing it. Just downplay Biden and Dems, give the RWers a pass. Don't attack Trump's fascist inclination because that's the same for both Trump and DeSantis, whichever one runs against Biden.



tavernier

(12,400 posts)
8. Yes and he predicted that it would be Trump versus Biden
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:37 AM
Nov 2022

in the next presidential election. He is still working with the mindset that the media has to have a horse race in order to make a profit.

He never said a word about all the legal issues facing Trump in the next two years before the election, as if none of that matters.

He may be right but if he is, it will only be because the media will help to make it so.

I think Mathew’s time has passed. If anything, this election proved that no one has the stomach for that kind of negative crap anymore, other than a handful of buggy eyed Magas.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
13. Trump is bad for everybody.
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:46 AM
Nov 2022

He spews lies and misinformation and the media laps it up. And the result is anger, chaos and eventually violence. The sooner he is out of the spotlight the better for all of us.

Karma13612

(4,554 posts)
15. Is he going to have his own time slot?
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 09:54 AM
Nov 2022

Or “just” be a guest on shows here and there?

Not happy about either, but the former would be pure evil.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
16. Matthews gets totally unhinged whenever Trump
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:03 AM
Nov 2022

is around, for his own sanity Matthews needs to stay off the airwaves.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
20. We need all Democratic pundits on board to support the Democratic candidate.
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:17 AM
Nov 2022

Matthews, when he had his own show, voiced opinions sided by conservative Democrats, giving the appearance that he represented the majority of the Democratic party. He even said that America was moving towards conservatism. His opinion helped form an impression that gave minorities a steep hill to climb within its own party. It would have suppressed the minority vote. Carville was also part of that mind-thinking. Not that he was conservative, but he took the easy way out, preferring that minorities keep quiet before the election so as not to scare off the white conservatives within the party.

Anyone who has been paying attention has to see the demographic shift that has occurred in the last ten years. The strategy of silencing minority voices, and pushing causes for the hard-right conservatives in the party is passe. The future is the young who are only now waking up and they are far more tolerant and progressive.

If Chris Matthews is being given air time now, even as a guest, it's probably a floater to see if he has any supporters out there to justify giving him his own show. I think it would be a huge mistake.

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
27. I think too many people here watch too much cable news...
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:56 AM
Nov 2022

...and assume it has a much greater influence on voters than it does.

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
28. These things end up on the internet too
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 11:47 AM
Nov 2022

In yahoo news, Twitter/Facebook clips, etc. So it's just not people watching cable.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
38. Are you at all familiar with the term "death by a thousand paper cuts?
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 02:27 PM
Nov 2022

Because it's not one message or one outlet alone that can and has hurt the Democratic party.

It's the media's endless onslaught of bothsiderist BS, false claims, smears, innuendos and outright lies about Democrats that slowly but surely harms the party and boosts the bad guys.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
18. I want Cross back. She was fearless, smart, and snappy. Gave info we would not get otherwise.
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:06 AM
Nov 2022

Her guests were also good. How many more smart, fearless black women will media power base silence? (Soledad, Tamron, Crosse, Melissa Harris-Perry).

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
39. Better yet, CUT YOUR CABLE.
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 02:29 PM
Nov 2022

And tell the cable company WHY.

Seriously, people, even if you boycott their advertisers, these idiots still make bank off your cable subscription.

You're not serious about teaching them anything as long as you're supporting them, however indirectly.

House of Roberts

(5,182 posts)
25. You mean, THIS GUY?
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 10:28 AM
Nov 2022
MSNBC host Chris Matthews predicted in 2013 that Sen. Rand Paul (R., Ky.) would be the Republican Party's 2016 presidential nominee, but Paul didn't even make it to the New Hampshire primary.

"You watch," Matthews said at the time. "This is what I do for a living."

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
30. I thought it was gonna be Snotty Walker in 2016
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 11:53 AM
Nov 2022

The millionaires and billionaires that backed the Tea Party were funding him. Little did I realize that the racists that supported Snotty would choose TFG when given the choice between a candidate that uses dog whistles vs a candidate that uses a blow horn when bring racist. Probably didn't hurt TFG when the Russians hacked the Wisconsin GOP-run RNC - I bet there was a lot of kompromat obtained from that hack that could be used on Priebus, Walker, Ryan, and Johnson to keep them in line (or out of the way).

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
31. Because
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 12:26 PM
Nov 2022

They think everyone will have forgotten by now WHY he was booted from MSNBC in the first place. See, Brian Williams.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
32. agree
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 12:52 PM
Nov 2022

...Matthews is a regressive tool who pines for the days when most men in America who looked like him believed their role was to pass judgment on everyone else and proclaim themselves and their views superior in a vain attempt to covet the ground the people they'd repressed had paved for them.

The worst, in my view, is how he slobbers all over the 'greatest generation' of men, like he can't countenance recognizing anything that came afterward as positively influencing or defining of this country.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
35. Chris Matthews STFU. It's 2022.
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 02:03 PM
Nov 2022

And you can add Andrea Mitchel to that list too.
But hey! Let's fire Tiffany Cross because she speaks truth to power!

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
44. I would like to think that most of the other hosts....
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 04:00 PM
Nov 2022

Didn't want to carry water for TFG's presidential/dictatorial ambitions. Honestly surprised they didn't drag Chucky or Mrs Greenspan out. Maybe they thought that Matthews still has come credibility as a moderate.

ZonkerHarris

(24,254 posts)
43. Chris Matthews is a moron. Don't listen to him. Why are you watching Morning Joe anyway?
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 03:43 PM
Nov 2022

That was your first mistake.

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